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    Exclamation It depends

    Yeah but it kinda depends, if you r a breeder and u want 2 show, of course you will get a purebreed,but if you dont want an expensive dog, a lot of people will get mixed breeds, to enjoy them but if your like my family who live around nothing but scary ugly mutts,i mean ugly, i know some can be cute,but these.... scary no offense 2 any one, but me and my family prefer to have pure dogs cause these jerks around here wont take care of their dogs so we like to "show-off" our breeds but it depends whos piont of view your looking at

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUFFY
    color actually does have a lot to do with it. chocolate labs are more aggressive than yellow and black ones. long haired dachsuonds have a different personallity than short haired ones. i know it sounds crazy, but it does make a difference....and why was my reply posted three times...huh, that really weird, cuz i only posted it once...
    Eh, personally I do not believe that the coat length and coloration effects their behavior. I think it is just individual dog personalities. I'm not saying what you think is wrong, this is just what I believe.

    I've met Chocolate Labradors who were sweet, and i've met Yellow ones who were extreamly aggressive. I don't have any experiance with the Dachshunds so I have no room to talk there, rofl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheltieluver4
    me and my family prefer to have pure dogs cause these jerks around here wont take care of their dogs so we like to "show-off" our breeds
    I don't understand why it takes a purebred dog to "show off." I have a Border Collie mix who I proudly show off every day. >O.o<

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    It depends on the dog. I have a aussie cattle dog who while hyper as a pup was a pain in the backside. now he is the best dog i have ever had. I had a gsd boxer mix who was the most complient easy to train dog i have ever had and i had to pts at 2 years old. and the 7 month rottie is the most challanging smart bullheaded dog i have ever owned. I would not advise a rott for a first timer!!!

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    ok. the red/gold/tan english cocker spaniels are most prone to the cocker spaniel rage syndrome. it is a real sickness, not something i made up. and i asked the main vetrinarian at my clinic, Evergreen pet clinic in san pablo, CA (i recently transferred to there, from a vca clinic in albany, CA), and he said that i was wrong. it is also common in american cocker spaniels, as well as Pyrenean Mountain Dogs, Chesapeake Bay Retrievers, Dobermanns, English Bull Terriers, German Shepherds, and suprisingly, Golden Retrievers, Bernese Mountain Dogs and St. Bernards. the number of dogs affected by this, however, is pretty small.

    http://www.cockerspanielrage.org.uk

    ^there is a link to a good website that will tell you about that syndrome.


    AND PLEASE, PEOPLE. THIS IS MY VERY OWN PERSONAL OPINION. WE DON'T NEED TO BREAK OUT INTO MASS HYSTERIA EVERY TIME SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING. IN ALMOST EVRY POST HERE, SOMEONE IS DENOUNCED BECAUSE OF THEIR PERSONAL OPINION, AND I'M SICK OF THAT. CAN'T EVRYONE JUST RESPECT OTHER'S OPINIONS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamcool1109
    AND PLEASE, PEOPLE. THIS IS MY VERY OWN PERSONAL OPINION. WE DON'T NEED TO BREAK OUT INTO MASS HYSTERIA EVERY TIME SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING. IN ALMOST EVRY POST HERE, SOMEONE IS DENOUNCED BECAUSE OF THEIR PERSONAL OPINION, AND I'M SICK OF THAT. CAN'T EVRYONE JUST RESPECT OTHER'S OPINIONS?
    Wow, excuse the hell out of you. You are the only one getting all worked up over this light conversation. No one is breaking out in "mass hysteria" because you have an opinion. We are just all discussing OUR opinions as well. I do believe we are allowed to do such things... this is a public forum, correct?

    You need to chill out. I even stated: "I'm not saying what you think is wrong, this is just what I believe." So I do hope you are not directing your comments there twords me.
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    and i asked the main vetrinarian at my clinic, Evergreen pet clinic in san pablo, CA (i recently transferred to there, from a vca clinic in albany, CA), and he said that i was wrong
    I am pretty sure if you were a veterinarian, you would at least be able to spell it. Is this an admission that you are not one?
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!

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    no, i'm not really directing this to anyone. i'm just really frustrated, because some people are saying that they want to ban me, denying that i'm a vet, and I'm only trying to help. tell me if i'm being a nuisance. i may not be the most experienced, or smartest vet in the world (i only started actually working about a year ago, after i got out of school), but i'm just trying to help. everyone else here probably knows more than me. and really, i dont care how much you know.

    yes, i suppose you're right about the public forum thing. but you're making me feel kind of.... bad... maybe say things a little politer?

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    I understand completely, Curbside. I simply wanted my credentials known.
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!

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    My main concern, iamcool1109, is that the advice you give is not only often poor, but patently not true. We hired a new vet the beginning of the month, freshly graduated, and I have seen first hand how difficult it is for a new vet. All the more reason to be extremely careful about the sweeping generalizations you tend to make about breeds. if you really are a vet, I sure hope you do not do this in your practice. If you have only been at this only a year, you do not have the experience to make these kinds of generalizations with any accuracy.
    Unaltered dogs are at greater health risks, including some cancers. Please spay or neuter your pet!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamcool1109
    yes, i suppose you're right about the public forum thing. but you're making me feel kind of.... bad... maybe say things a little politer?
    I am in no way trying to make you feel bad. I'm sorry that I come off as a bitch sometimes, but that's just my personality. I have been as polite as I possibly can be on this forum, and I'd like to think that I have done a good job so far.

    You shared your opinion on something, and I disagreed with you on it. This is a dog forum, and you have to keep in mind that this can be a touchy subject with alot of people. Dogs are important to us all, and we are all trying to do our best to help each other out. We will not always agree, and we may sometimes argue/debate a bit, but i've noticed that is pretty much how it works at any dog forum. We all have to try not to take things to personally.

    We each have our own method of training, and we each have our own ideas of how dogs should be taken care of. We will just have to agree to disagree sometimes, and there is no need for anyone to get so worked up. This should be a fun place to share our thoughts and ideas.
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    I am a fan of rescue...and there are a ton of purebred dogs included on your list that need homes. Rescue beats getting a pup from a breeder, especially for your first dog because....

    -Most rescue dogs are a bit older and out of the hardest part of their puppyhood.

    -Most have been evaluated to see how their personality would fit into any potential homes.

    -Most have been housebroken, or at least started on the process.

    -Most rescues have a very large network of support for you to turn to should their be problems with your pup...whether it just be general questions or support.

    -Most rescues will work WITH you and will take back a dog if it turns out it's not the one for your home.

    -Rescues are in rescue FOR THE DOGS.

    -Adopting a rescue dog opens up a place for another puppy or dog thrown away for whatever reason.

    YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, CONSIDER RESCUE!

    Quote Originally Posted by sheltieluver4
    Yeah but it kinda depends, if you r a breeder and u want 2 show, of course you will get a purebreed,but if you dont want an expensive dog, a lot of people will get mixed breeds, to enjoy them but if your like my family who live around nothing but scary ugly mutts,i mean ugly, i know some can be cute,but these.... scary no offense 2 any one, but me and my family prefer to have pure dogs cause these jerks around here wont take care of their dogs so we like to "show-off" our breeds but it depends whos piont of view your looking at
    WOW...if that wasn't one of the most demeaning things I've ever heard to owners of mixed breeds. SHAME ON YOU!
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    yay ownedbysixi love rescue missions! my first dog is from the milo foundation, he was accually born in a field by the horse race tracks....cool, ay? ya, the only thing (in my opinion) wrong with purebred rescues is that a lot of the time the dogs have some kind of medical or physical disorder, which is hard for me, but i support dog rescue missions 100%!
    and now i'd like to thank my greatest teacher...MY DOG.

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    Talking Scoutie!

    My first puppy 8s one I still have now and she is a maltese/terrier mix named Scout and by the time she was 6 mths old, she knew 6 tricks! I am 13 and I have had her for 1 year and I would DIE for her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUFFY
    yay ownedbysixi love rescue missions! my first dog is from the milo foundation, he was accually born in a field by the horse race tracks....cool, ay? ya, the only thing (in my opinion) wrong with purebred rescues is that a lot of the time the dogs have some kind of medical or physical disorder, which is hard for me, but i support dog rescue missions 100%!
    Any rescue, no matter what breed/breeds they deal with will eventually have dogs that come in with medical issues. That's just how it goes when you are working with rescues, you can't avoid it 100% of the time. That is damn near impossible.. o.o

    I volenteer at a Samoyed rescue, and they get plenty of healthy sammies in. More so than unhealthy, i'd say.
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    Smile Labs

    Last summer we got our first dogs they're both Chocolate Labs and I think they were both about $400.

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    i'm 17 now. my first and current dog is a cattle dog / kelpie. he is insane. he needs constant trainging but he is teachin me as much as i teach him. i think he was a good first dog because i grew up with dogs my whole life. having a difficult dog isn't really daunting i suppose

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    I think I may of missed reading some posts, I'll go back and read in a minute.

    I just wanted to say I agree there are better 1st time dogs than others . I think take a look at what people or some experts may consider may consider good choices for 1st time owners and then see which of these breeds suite your life style.

    For instance in my opinion a lab and a pit are both very active dogs but for someone with and active lifestyle never owning a dog before a lab may be a better choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by sheltieluver4 View Post
    Yeah but it kinda depends, if you r a breeder and u want 2 show, of course you will get a purebreed,but if you dont want an expensive dog, a lot of people will get mixed breeds, to enjoy them but if your like my family who live around nothing but scary ugly mutts,i mean ugly, i know some can be cute,but these.... scary no offense 2 any one, but me and my family prefer to have pure dogs cause these jerks around here wont take care of their dogs so we like to "show-off" our breeds but it depends whos piont of view your looking at
    What? Do you live in Hillbilly land ?
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    Re: good first time breeds

    I feel strongly that a dog has to fit into a family and if people don't do their homework the pup my end up in the pound. No matter what kind of breed, I love all dogs but I myself could never own a herding type breed I am ADHD and I think a dog with all that energery I would go crazy!
    Do people remember the movie Homeward Bound? Chance is a good idea of what can happen when people see a great dog and run right out to find one like him. They don't realize how much training went into that dog and when he was with the cat that had to be filmed seperate so it looked like they were together. American Bulldogs are working dogs and can be very dominent I do rescue for them. When this movie came out there were numerouse ABs that ended up in rescue because they were not the movie star dog and people couldn't handle them. There are so many books out there that if someone got a ten dollar book on the breed they are interested in it could save them so much money and the pain of having to get rid of them if it doesn't work. Jen

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    Re: good first time breeds

    I forget who said it, but on the first page someone said that mutts are less likely to have disease and such. Okay you have two breeds combined, which means the dieseases of both breeds into one dog. If you ask me that means they are more likely. Also if you adopt a dog from the pound, and pounds have mostly mutts, there is already something wrong with them. Disease, beahvioral issues and such. I think some of these posters, two in particular, are just here to start stuff, IMO.
    I've said it too many times and I still stand firm. You get what you put in and people get what they deserve. Still I haven't seen mine, no I haven't seen mine. I've been giving, just haven't been getting. I've been walking that there line. So I think I'll keep on walking with my head held high. I'll keep moving on and only God knows why.

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