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    New "agility classes" thread

    I'm reviving (or restarting) the old thread "agility classes" because I miss it. For those that missed that thread, it was about progress/brags/problems in members' agility classes.

    I'll start:

    The wet/cold season has meant a hiatus from disc training, so we've been concentrating on agility for the last few months. Classes couldn't be better: the instructor is fabulous - I love how organized and resourceful she is, and how I never know what challenge I'll face on any given week until I get there. Agility class is like the highlight of my week.

    Come to think of it, agility class is the highlight of Kit's week, too. Sometime I'll have to record and post here her screams of joy (no better way to describe it) as we pull into the training facility.

    I love, love, love the drive that Kit has on course. She eats ground like a greyhound. I'm loving this stage of her training, because as she becomes slightly more independent and is starting to read me better, I'm starting to be able to think about my next move instead of worrying about her. She's got a nice balance of equipment focus vs. handler focus. Her weaves are the envy of many, and her only Q so far is in a NADAC weavers course.

    Our challenges lately are start-line stays (complete with lots of backtalk from her), distance work, directionals, and getting her up to her regular jump height (20"). A few weeks ago we went thru a stage (around 3 weeks) of naughtiness where she basically just wanted to make up her own courses and run around out of control. That seems to have passed, though.

    Our second, third, and fourth trials (all NADAC) are coming up, starting about 3 weeks from now. I'm excited to finally get to run Kit in some standard novice NADAC courses, rather than in games trials where all levels run the same course (so courses are beyond us both).

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    Re: New "agility classes" thread

    Awesome! I've been doing agility since last October with Denali. She was almost 8 months when we started I think, and just turned 13 months. A few weeks ago we got the weave poles down, the last obstacle we had to conquer! Obviously still working on consistency and distance but she gets it right 90% of the time. Distance on all obstacles is something we need to work on. Been taking it easy overall because of her age, class once a week and I go in for extra practice about once a week. We're about to take an entire month off though because I'm moving.

    What needs to or should be done before competing? I plan on getting x-rays done in a month or two to see how closed her joints are. I know there are age requirements anyways so we have several months more of prep- which we need! Still very much in training but she is doing really well and loving every moment.

    I'll link to my thread and let that die, and start posting here instead if that's ok. Started the thread when we had only been in 7 weeks, she has come so far!
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    May I ask? What kind of pricing dog training runs for agility? I have a very smart pup with my rudimentary training he has 17 tricks down and begs to learn more. However he is a big dog so what can I do with Rufus? He will go about 130-150 when he's finished growing...

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    Re: New "agility classes" thread

    My biggest news is that Cherokee hasn't missed a weave entry in months! I can send him in from any direction and he knows exactly what to do. Occasionally he pops out before the last weave on a 12 weave stretch but, that's usually because I have done something to pull him out early

    I have a question, what word do you use to cue the 2 on 2 off? His perfect running contact at the end of the A-frame has turned into a jump off if I am not right at the near the base (like when I have to run around the tunnel). I wish we had taught 2 on 2 off to start but, it is what it is..........Anyway, we are working on targeting right now to help him out.

    And, last week, the sequence started with a straight line tire, double jump, triple jump, table. I just LOVED it when Cherokee took off and the other students gasped in awe at his beautiful jumping. He really is a fine tuned athlete and if you let him go full guns, he is a sight to behold!
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    <3 Cherokee He and Kim would be great together in so many ways lol

    Anyway we are still adrift in mid-move land so no class per se and no building/equip access except for the things I've hodge-podged together over time. Have a few trials planned over the next ouple months, including Miral- debut (just 1 day JWW Nov B) to see where our training is when put in a ring situation. Though since Mira's never been in an agility class this is maybe not relevant to the thread :s
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    Baredul, big dogs can do alright! We have a big golden retriever/poodle named Duffy. His personality is such that he's not very focused because he wants to go say hi to everyone all the time, but he can physically do the obstacles.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ogfqw8bors
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQAs00Y6YQ (he gets it by the end)

    Price varies a lot. Where I am, classes started at $120 for the first 6 weeks, $110 for the next six, $100 for the next six, then after that you pay $60/month+optional $30/month to come in any time.

    Denali today
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O34rFhFEno (handler error on the jumps lol)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AvBZsVK304 (LOVE the tunnels in this one)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeJKQ3Lmgok (weaves at the end!!
    Weave poles! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pKYOr_yb8k

    Um yeah, I'm REALLY excited that she weaves!
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    Re: New "agility classes" thread

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaLuvMutts View Post
    I'm reviving (or restarting) the old thread "agility classes" because I miss it. For those that missed that thread, it was about progress/brags/problems in members' agility classes.

    I'll start:

    The wet/cold season has meant a hiatus from disc training, so we've been concentrating on agility for the last few months. Classes couldn't be better: the instructor is fabulous - I love how organized and resourceful she is, and how I never know what challenge I'll face on any given week until I get there. Agility class is like the highlight of my week.

    Come to think of it, agility class is the highlight of Kit's week, too. Sometime I'll have to record and post here her screams of joy (no better way to describe it) as we pull into the training facility.

    I love, love, love the drive that Kit has on course. She eats ground like a greyhound. I'm loving this stage of her training, because as she becomes slightly more independent and is starting to read me better, I'm starting to be able to think about my next move instead of worrying about her. She's got a nice balance of equipment focus vs. handler focus. Her weaves are the envy of many, and her only Q so far is in a NADAC weavers course.

    Our challenges lately are start-line stays (complete with lots of backtalk from her), distance work, directionals, and getting her up to her regular jump height (20"). A few weeks ago we went thru a stage (around 3 weeks) of naughtiness where she basically just wanted to make up her own courses and run around out of control. That seems to have passed, though.

    Our second, third, and fourth trials (all NADAC) are coming up, starting about 3 weeks from now. I'm excited to finally get to run Kit in some standard novice NADAC courses, rather than in games trials where all levels run the same course (so courses are beyond us both).
    Kit sounds pretty much like Tag. The golden moment was deciding to trust my dog and just GO and know he'd follow (and he did). His biggest problem at the moment is anticipating (anticipating a release from the startline, anticipating a release from contacts, from the table, etc). A few times in the past few weeks he's ran PAST the weave poles...cueing him to weave the second he commits to the obstacle in front of him has solved that for the time being. I'm still loving it, and hope things are a little better for me this summer so we can enjoy it even more. This dogs biddability rocks. (Slightly OT, but Tag just joined a competition obedience class an hour away on Tuesday nights. We've only been to one class but I'm having a ball with that as well because it's very PR based with very small classes).

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaMuttMom View Post
    My biggest news is that Cherokee hasn't missed a weave entry in months! I can send him in from any direction and he knows exactly what to do. Occasionally he pops out before the last weave on a 12 weave stretch but, that's usually because I have done something to pull him out early

    I have a question, what word do you use to cue the 2 on 2 off? His perfect running contact at the end of the A-frame has turned into a jump off if I am not right at the near the base (like when I have to run around the tunnel). I wish we had taught 2 on 2 off to start but, it is what it is..........Anyway, we are working on targeting right now to help him out.

    And, last week, the sequence started with a straight line tire, double jump, triple jump, table. I just LOVED it when Cherokee took off and the other students gasped in awe at his beautiful jumping. He really is a fine tuned athlete and if you let him go full guns, he is a sight to behold!
    I just use "feet". Several people in my class use "bottom" or "target". "Feet" just falls out of my mouth easier as a one syllable word, rather than two.
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    Re: New "agility classes" thread

    I'm glad this thread got started up again. It's nice to hear about how everyone's training is going!

    As for Belle and I, our trainer finally moved locations! She and one of my good friends went in to business and now they have a much larger facility. They have a turfed area that is huge! We are taking a Competition Handling Class right now. Belle has been doing very well! I think we finally have been making positive progress with our table issue. A year ago she wouldn't down on a table in competition and now she does it 8 or 9 times out of 10! We still are working on making our table performance 100% but I am so happy with her success. Our trainer talked about starting a Running Contact class and I hope she starts one soon. Contacts seem to be our issue now! Lol

    Also, I have to brag about a few things! First off, I got an e-mail saying Belle got her first UKI title! Lol. We ran two days at a trial and Belle earned her 'Speed Stakes Beginner (SSB)' title. We only run UKI to support our trainer when she holds the trials, but I really like the venue!

    Another brag is last weekend we ran a TDAA trial, and Belle got her Teacup Master Agility Games 3 (TMAG3) Title! We Q'd 7 out of 10 runs which is really good for us. Belle's speed often times makes it difficult to control her on the small courses. Now after this weekend Belle only needs 4 more Q's til our Championship title in TDAA! If all goes well we can do this in 1 or 2 trials! After we 'finish' TDAA I think we may stray away from the venue and sign up for USDAA!

    Here is a picture of Belle and her ribbons from the weekend.

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    Looks like the thread has been successfully revived! Woot!

    Sibe, one thing that helped me prepare for trials is to actually attend a few before your dog is entered. They'll put you to work in the ring, but the jobs are easy and you'll learn a ton (plus get a front-row seat). You'll also meet a lot of folks. If you're lucky, you might be able to find some room to crate your dog to get them used to the trial environment. I'm lucky to have a dog that doesn't care much about her surroundings, but a lot of dogs get nervous in trial environments.

    Baredul, I've seen dogs as large as danes compete in agility. It is possible, but IMO, making a very tall dog go thru a small tunnel is a bit cruel. Prices at my training facility are $90 for six classes. I wouldn't pay this price for just any instructor, but our current one is absolutely worth it. The facility is also open for practice (when there aren't classes going on) for $5/visit per handler (no dog limit). It's a converted hay barn with a dirt/sawdust floor and a ton of equipment.

    MMM, I wish I had used "spot" as my 2o2o command. As it stands right now, I'm using "toto" (two on, two off), which sounds an awful lot like "tunnel". So far there hasn't been any confusion, but I see that day coming.

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    Yay! I love this thread! Good idea to revive it, GLM

    We're in a bit of a transitional period right now... While I LOVE our trainer and like most of her methods, I do think that her classes are taught too much equipment too soon (i.e. not enough focus on handling/obedience). It's more like "fun agility," but that doesn't exactly work out well when I want to compete. So we have an "evaluation" at one of the best training facilities in the area to see if we can get in to classes there. I think that we will be switching gears to obedience in order to perfect my handling and our teamwork.

    That being said, I most likely won't be doing much with equipment for a while, except for continuing weave training and maybe working on some jump work/directionals, and all of that will be on our own.

    One of the trainers we've worked with (she's done some private lessons with me and Kimma) said that we should work for our CD, so I think that maybe we should pursue that for a while and hopefully it will improve our teamwork.

    I will be attending my first trial involving bringing Kimma along to get used to the environment in a couple of weeks! I will be going with the owner/handler of the 2nd most-winning agility Finnish Spitz in the country (this dog is 10 years old, and just retired)! So I will be in good hands, LOL. And hopefully, I will be in her class at this new place eventually! It would be awesome to have two of such a rare breed in one agility class, and competing at the same time (she has a young bitch that is 18 months, and Kimma is 15, so they should make their debuts at a similar time!).

    Wow. Long post for no real agility stuff, LOL.

    ETA - We use "feet" for our 2o2os. I like it and it's easy for me to remember, hahah


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    Danali is gorgeous and I am very interested in maybe doing something like this with Rufus. This pup is amazing in his own intelligence and I think he can go a long way as long as I don't fall down on my job as being a forever mom.

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    I'm glad this thread got started up again. It's nice to hear about how everyone's training is going!

    As for Belle and I, our trainer finally moved locations! She and one of my good friends went in to business and now they have a much larger facility. They have a turfed area that is huge! We are taking a Competition Handling Class right now. Belle has been doing very well! I think we finally have been making positive progress with our table issue. A year ago she wouldn't down on a table in competition and now she does it 8 or 9 times out of 10! We still are working on making our table performance 100% but I am so happy with her success. Our trainer talked about starting a Running Contact class and I hope she starts one soon. Contacts seem to be our issue now! Lol

    Also, I have to brag about a few things! First off, I got an e-mail saying Belle got her first UKI title! Lol. We ran two days at a trial and Belle earned her 'Speed Stakes Beginner (SSB)' title. We only run UKI to support our trainer when she holds the trials, but I really like the venue!

    Another brag is last weekend we ran a TDAA trial, and Belle got her Teacup Master Agility Games 3 (TMAG3) Title! We Q'd 7 out of 10 runs which is really good for us. Belle's speed often times makes it difficult to control her on the small courses. Now after this weekend Belle only needs 4 more Q's til our Championship title in TDAA! If all goes well we can do this in 1 or 2 trials! After we 'finish' TDAA I think we may stray away from the venue and sign up for USDAA!

    Here is a picture of Belle and her ribbons from the weekend.
    Great job!! Belle looks very modest I looked into TDAA, but there are very little trials in my area so I doubt it would be worth it. CWags nixed their agility program, so we're probably going to start with CPE...

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    Re: New "agility classes" thread

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    Great job!! Belle looks very modest I looked into TDAA, but there are very little trials in my area so I doubt it would be worth it. CWags nixed their agility program, so we're probably going to start with CPE...
    I like TDAA because it is very laid back, but I do better with handling larger courses so I am glad we are almost done. We do CPE too and I really like it too! One things about CPE that I really like is that you can have minor faults in the lower Levels. So you can still progress in moving up Levels even with a small mess up. I am lucky to live right by the Wisconsin/Illinois border so there are always trials going on. When do you plan on starting to trial in CPE?!

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    I like TDAA because it is very laid back, but I do better with handling larger courses so I am glad we are almost done. We do CPE too and I really like it too! One things about CPE that I really like is that you can have minor faults in the lower Levels. So you can still progress in moving up Levels even with a small mess up. I am lucky to live right by the Wisconsin/Illinois border so there are always trials going on. When do you plan on starting to trial in CPE?!
    Soon, bascially to get my agility friends off my back xD (j/k). I'd like to start sometime this summer if possible.

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    Re: New "agility classes" thread

    We're in a big trialing valley of death right now due to lack of availability and getting closed out of a breed trial. One day of trialing in April, none in March...ouch!

    That said I tossed Mira's first trial entry in the mail this morning. On April Fool's Day...hmmm that might be fitting :P. A single NovB JWW run at a trial in May to see how our training translates to a trial environment. Should be fun lolol
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    Re: New "agility classes" thread

    Buffy is just in an "agility for fun" class, but it's cool to read about all of you who are doing it for real. We just started our second 7-week session last week. The instructor does say that she tries to teach us the rules in case any of us want to go on to serious classes elsewhere.

    Buffy is still having trouble with weaves (I plan to buy some poles to practice at home soon), but she especially loves the walk, jumps and A-frame.

    I figured I would check it out locally before I decided if I want to get serious about it.

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    I can hardly wait for the snow to go so we can start training again. There are no trials in our area in March/April so our first trials won't be till May. Can never understand why they have trials in Jan/Feb when it is too cold, then don't have any in March and April. Instead they start in May and are all crammed into May through Sept. with one we go to in Nov.

    Guess I shouldn't complain as it gives us time to get back into training. I know the dogs really miss it when we can't train. If I mention the word Agility, they start bouncing around.

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    Have not been here forever. I am now assisting in a puppy agility foundations class and teaching an agility games class. I love doing both. Watching the puppies (and humanes) discovering the fun of agility is so rewarding. In the games class we have done CPE games: colors, wildcard, & snookers so far. I have also incorporated TDAA games we have done: copy cat and dare to double. Will be doing "Pittsburgh" bowling. I plan courses so that dogs of all heights and abilities can come and have fun. As for competing Rio and I will be starting again in May in CPE. I may take Savannah to a few this year but that depends on time and money. Rio and my distance work is much improved. I just need to learn to trust him more. Our club is having a TDAA trial April 30-May 1. I am the awards chairperson. So glad to see better weather coming our way and that everyone here is doing great and having fun!!
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    Hi, I'm new to the forum, but I want to jump in and get to know people! I've got a 10-month-old Aussie that I cannot wait to do serious agility with, even though we've got a long way to go! The trainer in my town (I live in a very small town in the middle of nowhere with only one trainer) insists that we can't do anything at all until she's a year old, which is incredibly frustrating because I know she can do ground work and everything just as long as she isn't jumping much or high. But I've been using Pamela Marxsen's videos on youtube to start foundation training and my pup loves it! She also got to try out some contact obstacles at a dog park and she did amazing. I hope we'll be able to start classes next fall and go to a trial next year.

    Here's some links if you'd like to see her. The first one is Lexi doing contacts and the second is some disc/agility work we've been doing lately.



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    Re: New "agility classes" thread

    Nice videos, Lexipup! Welcome to the forum.

    There's a lot you can do with a 10 month old dog to start agility training. Certainly you can work on targeting (I use a bathroom tile), which will help later when you get to contact performance work. You can also do plenty of flatwork and obedience drills (no equipment). For example, the heel work looks great in your second video - what happens if you take the leash off? I also liked the "stay". Proof it by pairing it with a piece of equipment and teasing the dog to make her break. A ball or other toy can also help with this. At this age, tunnels and hoops are great obstacles, but I'd worry more about fundamentals right now and leave the equipment for later.

    I'm the resident disc dogger 'round these parts, so lemme know if you have questions. Here's a video of my dog Kit at a discdog club demo recently:

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