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    Hello, can someone please give me some insight as to what is wrong with my german shepherd. PLEASE nobody tell me to just go to a vet, that is really not helpful and I will be going to a vet, but that doesn't mean I don't want opinions and research right now before I can take her.
    She is very thin (not just gsd thin, but sickly thin) and acting lethargic. I am freaking out because she has all the symptoms of distemper other than hard feet, but I also have another theory on what could be wrong, and this is what I want some insight on. We recently moved and my mother in law is living on a house adjoining ours, and she has a dog. My dog (karma) has never cared about food, you feed her and she just leaves it and eats when she's hungry. My mother in laws dog (midnight) is a total pig, and they lock her in the bathroom when feeding their small dog because she is horribly food agressive. However, she is outside most of the time, and so is my dog, and we feed my dog outside. We keep the dog food in a sealed container next to the doghouse, and Midnight knows this. About a week ago my dog was coming out of her dog house because a car was pulling up, and Midnight lunged out of nowhere and attacked her very viciously.
    So my other thought on the matter, is that my dog is too afraid to eat, so she is simply not eating. I brought her in the house last night and she has been in since, and I've had food in here for her trying to encourage her to eat. She is still really not eating though, and so my question is that is it possible that she is just so scared/traumatized of being attacked over food, that she is afraid to eat even when Midnight is not around? Even if she is starving? She only eats if I really encourage her, and stand right next to her. She was eating this morning, and a plate dropped loudly, and she ran into the corner and hid with her tail between her legs and wouldn't eat anymore. She's acting a little happier, but still definately not her normal self. Also, last night I wormed her, and about an hour later she threw up a HUGE pile on the floor, but hasn't thrown up since. I haven't seen her stool yet since we've been monitoring her.
    Oh and also, please save the lectures on me not paying attention and noticing her get thin sooner, I feel bad enough as it is. I just had a baby, and have not been out with her much lately so I didn't notice until my mother in law pointed out that she was acting lethargic. (She had been acting normally whenever I went outside, bringing rocks to my feet and grabbing them away wanting me to chase her) but she is usually running around and apparently she just stays in her dog house all day now. She has very thick fur, so I didn't notice how thin she'd gotten until I really sat down and felt her.

    Oh and she is 2 years old, spayed, I have had her since she was 6 weeks old.
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    Re: sick german shepherd

    Because you have already decided what kind of answers you will accept I will just wish your dog the best of luck!

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    I doubt she's scared to eat. It sounds like there is more going on. You really do need to take her to a vet for a checkup including a blood workup, fecal test, etc. It could be worms/parasites or something else. It's impossible to say. Please get her to a vet, and try to spend more time with her.
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    Re: sick german shepherd

    rocks can't be good for her teeth - maybe you should get her a kong or something?

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    I am very concerned about your dog, and I agree with spottednikes that it is unlikely that she is afraid to eat. While you don't want to hear "take her to the vet," it is imperative that you do so right away, DO NOT WAIT. Her condition could be due to any number of things, including very serious illness.
    What are you feeding her? My mom's German Shepherd is not overly excited about kibble, so she had to find dog appropriate stuff that she would eat. She's had great success with occasionally using this recipe to stimulate her appetite and help with her weight: 1-1/2 lb. fatty raw hamburger mince, 1/2 c. wheat germ oil or wheat germ, 3 eggs, 3 c. oatmeal
    Form into meatballs. Place on cookie sheet, put in freezer. After frozen, put in containers. Microwave about 30 seconds per meatball, depending on size. Give 2-3 per day.
    Also, have you been monitoring her water intake, bathroom habits, etc.? This will be important information for your vet, as well. You being unaware of Karma's condition is a serious issue, however, what's done is done and there's no use in adding insult to injury. (Although, I must admit I'm tempted.) What matters now is what actions you take now that you ARE aware. There are 24-hour vets, vets that work on weekends, etc., so there is NO excuse for not getting her to the vet right away. I encourage you to be open to whatever feedback you get from this forum; being close-minded and deciding ahead of time what you will and will not listen to is only hurting your dog more.
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    Good thing you are planning to head to the vet...I think it's warranted. A lot of things can cause weight loss in a dog and/or cause them to refuse food. It could be a bad tooth (I doubt it at her age) or a blockage of some sort (what came to mind with the vomiting, refusal to eat). She so young so some or the things I would really be worried about in an older dog aren't as much of a concern (cancers) and she's spayed so pyometria is ruled out. It could be something like a low grade infection. I'd definitely want a blood panel drawn and possibly an xray, depending on what the physical exam shows. What do her gums look like? Nice and pink? Pale? If you press on the gums does the color come back right away?

    See if you can entice her to eat with meatballs (as outlined above) or mix meat in with her food. When a dog refuses meat (raw and/or cooked) I start to really get worried. Even picky eaters will usually scarf that down.

    I would also make sure she has regular access to her food and that the other dog is kept separate from her, at least until you figure out what's going on.
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    This sounds to me like a lot of dominance dog head games being played upon an already shy or timid dog.

    Of course your dog is being dominated by this other dog, and for a while you have to work with her and feed her seperately. If there is some way to seperate these two animals I would do so.

    First off I'd go out and get one of those Costco roast chickens and away from the house hand feed this thing to her, and see what happens. Get her away from the bad enviroment and see the way she reacts here. You may have to go this route for a while until you build up her weight and get her somewhat normal.

    Then you have to do something about this other dog in her life.

    I'd also take her to the vet, it may be a combination of dog-dominance timidity and a medical problem.

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    Re: sick german shepherd

    She plays keep away with rocks.
    She doesn't want to eat.
    She hasn't had a bm lately.
    She's lethargic.

    This could very well be a foreign body ingestion and blockage.
    This cannot wait. You need to rule out illness and blockage BEFORE you start thinking about it being fear or trauma around food (though it COULD happen, it is NOT LIKELY).

    Waiting could cause your dog her life. The regret would kill ME. Please see a vet ASAP.
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    And please do NOT give your dog a costco chicken - those things are fatty and could make your dog a lot sicker (dogs don't digest fats like that very well). And if she gets any of the bone, it could puncture her stomach or intestines and be fatal. This is not a behavioral issue. It's medical. Get to a vet.

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    Re: sick german shepherd

    Quote Originally Posted by GypsyJazmine View Post
    Because you have already decided what kind of answers you will accept I will just wish your dog the best of luck!
    No kidding. And I'm not a veterinarian, and even if I was, I certainly woluldn't speculate on what could be wrong with the dog via the INTERNET. These sort of posts are really starting to rub me raw. Great, you feel bad you're neglectful and a medical condition has been going on for who know how long, make up for it and go to the vet NOW.

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    Re: sick german shepherd

    I would be very concerned about there being a rock in there causing problems. It's a not uncommon cause of abdominal exploratory surgeries and foreign body removals.
    Case in point, we have two small breed dogs (same family) at work currently due to rock eating..one has had surgery, the other we're waiting to see if she passes them..but, she had surgery to remove rocks a few months ago already.

    Certainly get your pet to a vet.

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