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    Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    Hello Im totally new here and came for some advice on my 7 yr old chow mix. We got her when she was a puppy. Im unsure what she is a mix with was told it was a chow mix, my brother gave her to us. We lived in the city for 2 yrs, once we moved up into the county 5 yrs ago it all started with her.
    She started to loose the hair on her tail, it now looks like a rat tail. Then she started to get her skin on her tummy turning back and loosing hair on her back end. We took her to our vet who did several tests and came up with nothing. We went to another vet who did the same thing and again no idea what is going on. She is now looking her worst and I feel horrible for her.
    Her tail has no hair, her tummy is all black along with her neck. Her neck has no hair as well and her back end has bald spots. Its moving up her back now so she is loosing hair further up also now around her eyes nose and mouth. I want to take her back to dr but not pay the amount we already have to be told they cant help us.
    She does eat well and acts likes a puppy. Nothing seems to bother her she just looks horrible. We did change her dog food to a natural one a while ago she gained weight and also got some of her hair back. We found the feed store didnt carry it anymore so we went to Dads skin and coat which seems to not do a thing.
    I have read several things and unsure what it could be or what we could do for her. We are going to find another all natural dog food see if that will help, but in the mean time what can I do? I hate taking her for walks and having people over as they think she has something major wrong with her. If anyone could help me or give me some advice that would be great. Thank you!

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    Welcome to the forum! I'd try a grain free alternative proein source food like Taste of the Wild. It's reasonably priced and seems to help skin issues. Did your vets do skin scrapings to test for Mange? That will cause hair loss. You might also try bathing him with MicroTek antifungal shampoo, in case it is a fungus. Do you live somewhere humid? Often dogs with a thick undercoat will retain moisture in the fur, and it can create an environment conducive to getting fungal infections.
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    Do you happen to know where I can get these items? They gave us some shampoo for the life of me now I cant remember the kind and it didnt do a thing for us. They did a skin scraping and it came back neg.
    Its not really humid here vs where we lived before. They thought she was allergic to something up here but they didnt find anything she was allergic to. They gave us several things to try and nothing seemed to work at all.
    It just seems now she is at her worst not sure why.

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    I don't know where you are located, but you can get Taste of the Wild kibble at Tractor Supply and other farm supply stores. I'm sure there are other places as well if you google it.

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    We have one of them so Ill be doing some looking around down there and getting some of the stuff. See if that will help any, thank you!

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miles1983 View Post
    We have one of them so Ill be doing some looking around down there and getting some of the stuff. See if that will help any, thank you!
    Great. Let us know how she does.

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    How long should I try these before heading back to the vet? Do you think Id see some change in a month or should I wait longer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles1983 View Post
    How long should I try these before heading back to the vet? Do you think Id see some change in a month or should I wait longer?
    Well, if there has been a marked change recently, I would take her now. But if it's not changed much in a while (and since you've seen the vet last) I would give it a month or two on the new food and shampoo before deciding it isn't working.

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    The shampoo is found at horse supply stores/tack shops or online (try Jeffers supply or KV vet supply), or google MicroTek.
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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    Hi
    I see your going to try the new food and Microtek shampoo. I have both horses and dogs, mainly with the horses we see a lot of balding and different types of skin issues. I agree microtek is a good choice in shampoo. This is just my opinion. Be careful not to bathe to often and it will remove the natural oils from your dogs skin. For the times that your not bathing I would try using a product called vet aid. It is all natural and excellent for healing all types of skin issues. Im not sure if your dogs skin is irritated or not but either way its still great for the skin.

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    Have your vet do a thyroid test, if they will not go to someone who will. These are the exact symptoms my pug had before we finally found out he had a thyroid condition. Good luck with your pup.

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    If your dog's thyroid is normal, and tests for Cushing's or Addison's are normal, think about Alopecia X.

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    They did check the thyroid because my brother has her sister who had that same issue and it was thyroid. Hers was neg. Im not sure if they checked for Cushing's or Addison's Ill have to call them to see.

    Its gotten worse and I called the vet they said we could take her in but there isnt much they can do as they couldnt figure it out last time. They said they could do a few more testing which I shelled out a lot of money so far to get no answer, Id hate to do it again.

    As for the shampoo how often do you wash them with it?

    Thank you everyone after looking online I found the items you were talking about. I have already bought everything but the dog food online. Ill get the dog food this wkend because I found out the local feed store is going to bring back the food we used before!! Thank you all and if this doesnt work Ill have to find yet again another vet to take her, we have one in mind and if that happens I HOPE they can figure it out.
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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    I'd probably wash him once every 4 days for 8 days, then go to once every 2 weeks. Make sure he is dried down to the skin after. You don't want to leave the skin damp, as that can cause fungal infections, if he doesn't already have one. You could try spraying a small section with Lotramin powder spray a couple times a day to see if it looks better after a week. If so, it is probably fungal.
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    Thank you once I get the stuff in the mail Ill use it. Ill blow dry her too so that way she is all dry! Ill try the powder as well. Im thankful I found this site and asked you all about it! I didnt know any of this. Thank you!

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    Quote Originally Posted by sassafras View Post
    If your dog's thyroid is normal, and tests for Cushing's or Addison's are normal, think about Alopecia X.
    Have you run into many of the alopecia X dogs? I've only seen one come through our derm ward.

    Also, do you guys do regular F T4 testing for low/normal T T4 dogs that show classic clinical signs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. V View Post
    Have you run into many of the alopecia X dogs? I've only seen one come through our derm ward.

    Also, do you guys do regular F T4 testing for low/normal T T4 dogs that show classic clinical signs?
    I dont think she tested her for this but looking at that pic it does remind of her big time. She isnt spayed either, we were going to breed her and then get her spayed but all this went down so we didnt dare. I think if the stuff I bought doesnt work Ill head to the vet and have them test for this.
    What is F T4 can I ask? Im really unsure what she did testing for, both vets did different ones.

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    Sorry, shouldn't have put the abbreviations in an open post. F T4 is Free T4. T4 is the shorthand way of writing thyroxine, which is what is being tested for when a vet suspects hypothyroidism. Most general practice vets will do a Total T4 test to screen for hypothyroidism because it's easier and cheaper and in many cases make the diagnosis on its own. The more specific/sensitive (and of course more costly) test is called Free T4 and is usually chosen when the Total T4 result was low to borderline low (in the normal range). If your dog had a midrange to high Total T4 value, it may not be ideal to do the other test.

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    Re: Hair loss and black skin in chow mix?

    I think Ill have to call the vets so see what testing they did because I have no idea if they did any of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. V View Post
    Have you run into many of the alopecia X dogs? I've only seen one come through our derm ward.
    Maybe 2 or 3 over the years that I've suspected but never confirmed.

    Also, do you guys do regular F T4 testing for low/normal T T4 dogs that show classic clinical signs?
    If I don't believe the total T4 in that type of situation, I'll run a thyroid panel out of Michigan. I can't remember everything off hand that's included, but free T4 is on there for sure.

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