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    Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    We purchased this dog from a shelter and for $50.00 its now cost us at least $1,000.00 in vet bills and still no answer with her skin problems. First the Vet said it was a reaction to fleas.....no fleas. Tested for mange...no mange. We have been giving her Natural Balance Limited Ingredient Dog food, for fear of food allergy. She is on Benedrayl (for itching) and I have been giving her baths with DermaBenss shampoo which seems to help her skin, but does not cure it.

    We live in Malverne on Long Island. We are at wits ends. Does anyone know of a Vet and has experience with a Vet who specializes in skin and allergies. The last thing the Vet has done is put her on an antibotic (just in case its bacterial) and sent in a sample of the blood coming from one of the open sores to the lab for analysis.

    We just dont have much trust in this Vets office. If it was bacterial (the way her skin is) she would be SO sick.

    Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    How long have you had your dog and how long had it been on the new food? Food alergies can take some time to clear if that what is causing this. Have they done an allergy test? Any skin scraping? If you have an emergency vet, most of the time those guys know of specialists and may be able to get a referral for you.
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    Since May 09, skin probs getting worse since we've had her. no scraping etc. Why dont they just do all the various tests all at one time. Food...shes been on this one for quite some time.

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    Have you had your dog tested a for a yeast infection-Malassezia? It's confirmed with a skin scraping put under a microscope ( a relatively low-cost test) . It's a fungal infection often misdiagnosed as food/skin/environmental allergies.The signs of a this infection often appear in the high-humidity months of summer and will persist into the fall. Itchy skin is almost always present with these infections. Because of the scratching, the dog may further traumatize the skin. The yeast may be localized on the ear, muzzle, toes, anal area, or may be generalized, covering most of the body. Dogs with the generalized form will often have an offensive, greasy smell and may suffer from oily, scaly skin. Dogs with localized muzzle infections may rub their face or have episodes of intensely scratching their face. Dogs with infections on their toes may lick their feet constantly. Hair loss, redness, hyper pigmentation (blackening of the skin), and thickening of the skin may also be present.

    Treatment is not very expensive--Chlorhexidine shampoos that are 1% or stronger, and shampoos containing benzoyl peroxide( like your DermaBenss) and sulfur can be used. Selsun Blue shampoo for people also has a good effect against Malasseziain some dogs, although it can be irritating. Human shampoos containing ketoconazole (I use nizarole purchased @ CVS have) also been used.

    For dogs with more severe cases, or in those that are resistant to topical treatment, oral ketoconazole or oritraconazole can be administered for several weeks. A response is generally seen within 1-2 weeks, however, therapy needs to continue for an additional 3-5 weeks. Both of these oral anti fungal drugs are very effective, but because of their potentially toxic side effects and expense, they should only be used under direct veterinary supervision.

    Also, a grain free diet seems to help-- the grains feed the yeast.
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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    Thanks, I should also tell you that she is mostly Pitty. I have come to learn that these dogs are prone to skin ailments......UGH! But she is a mush and a half!!!!

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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    this stuff works wonders! its newer product and not many people/vets know about it but if you do some research you will find that it works! i'm using it my horse at the moment with wonderful results and its for all animals! non toxic and safe as water.

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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    We have animax cream andthat also is very good. Thanks for the suggestion. Bottom line, we need to find out what causes this horrible condition.....

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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    If your vet has rules out both types of mange, fleas, ringworm and any other type or parasite that could be causing this... next he should look at fungal/bacterial infections... then if nothing there allergic reactions. Even if you are feeding a high quality food and have been for some time I know a fellow who's st. bernard was allergic to beef, lamb, chicken, corn, greens, pretty much everything. They were able to manage a good lifestyle for him so this shouldn't be a HUGE issue. Personally I would have already changed his food to something that had it's protein source different from the meats in the food you give him now just to see if he got better. Some pits are very allergic to everything in their world... others are tuff s nails. Whatever you do tho just don't let your vet put your pup on a long term course of steroids. Those in the long run will do more harm than help. A short term order may be needed if the dog develops more sevear issues BUT always use steroids as a last chance option when all others have been exhausted. Pyroderma and moist dermatitis (sp?) are also things to consider treating for in the interim. A good food suppliment like fish oil or linatone (lanatone?) or some other suppliment designed to aide in skin and coat health are also a good precautionary measure to ensure you're doing all you can from the inside out.

    Lastly make sure you have a vet you have confidence in. It sounds like this fellow might be nickel and diming you to death by not doing all the possible tests he could at one time BUT can't say for sure... sometimes certain things need to be ruled out before others can be considered. There are canine dermatologists so might be worth looking into a referral to one in your area. There is also a great book called "The Dog Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook". I think they're on like the 5th or 6th edition... I have the first (with a beagle on the cover) this book has EASILY saved me over $7000 in vet bills. Absolutely worth the investment for the average dog owner.

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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    I had a similar problem about a year ago with my pup. After many vet visits, I finally changed vets and went to him armed with info i'd found online....lo and behold she had an underactive thyroid.So for the rest of her life she gets pills.However she didnt regrow her fur, smell any better or stop itching....back online I went.To make a long story short, eliminated chicken and grain from her diet(blue buffalo fish and potato food),nizoral dandruff shampoo and within 2 weeks the smell and itching were gone and fur was coming back.Oh yeah a dose of k9 for worms was in there too.Now 6 months later my husky has a beautiful fur coat.Dont give up and research online.The people in this forum are awesome sources of information, I couldn't have done it without them

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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    Dusty, its possible your food just doesn't contain all the nutrients your body needs. Most foods are cooked at extremely high temperatures and the nutrients are burnt out. Many times a supplement would help. Look for something with vitamin E, omega fatty acids and fish oils. Our company makes a supplement that also has lecithin, which has unbelievable effects on dog coat/skin issues. They would absolutely make a difference. You can find them here: http://www.inpetsupplements.com Even if you don't choose these supplements, please consider using a supplement as I am sure it would help.

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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    Poor dog, poor you! Skin problems can be so difficult. Here are some things you can do while seeking answers, which will do no harm, nor interfere with anything the vet gives you:

    Distilled water for drinking.
    Apple Cider Vinegar added to water (preferrably ACV w/the mother in it, generally found in health food stores).
    ACV & Water rinse after bath.
    EQyss Micro-Tech Shampoo & the leave-in Spray (immediate relief for the dog. Our astronauts used it to decontaminate. Great stuff, and inexpensive).
    See: http://www.eqyss.com/pet_microtek_spray.asp

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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    have you ever tried oatmeal dog shampoo, it helped my dog who have skin problems. you should give it a try.
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    Re: Skin Problems, Bumps, hot skin, bleeding, itching

    WOW WEE! Here I thought I was the only one going through skin issues with my pooch, Daisy May, who is approx 4-8 years old, Staffordshire/ pit bull, 65 lbs.

    I adopted her from the SPCA about 3 years ago with little past history. For about a year and half, she has broken out with zit like sores (on her back, feet, and neck), excessive scratching, licking, and hair loss. She is still her spunky self; eating, drinking, bowel movements, running, jumped, etc!

    I am at my wits end! I’ve tried and done the following…
    • Steroids from the vet (which I am not fond of)
    • Benadryl (allergies, itching)
    • Chlorhexidine shampoos, and other vet/ pet store shampoos
    • Wellness Core brand – no grains, I just switched to Beneful Healthy radiance b/c she was still having issues
    • Cone – to stop her from scratching (but I think she’s allergic to plastic!)

    I feel so bad for my fur baby! I am going to try some of the suggestions above and HOPE it helps! The vet just seems to keep on giving her a shot and steroids, pills and say its seasonal allergies!
    Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!! I can’t figure it out, Daisy May NEVER had these issues while she was at the SPCA (she was there for about a year) and they weren't giving her high end/ special foods!

    PLEASE HELP!!!
    (located in Burlington, Ontario Canada)
    Last edited by Cass; 03-28-2010 at 12:27 PM. Reason: tried to add pic

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