Thread: Ivomec Dosage for Mange

I was going to buy "Ivomec 1 % Solution - 50 ml" from kvvets.com that's selling for under 40 dollars to treat my dogs mange.

My dog was treated for manage a month or so ago and cleared up and now seems to have a relapse and now it's more of a localized red mange compared to generalized before.

My last vet was just giving her the ivomec shots every week, so I can't see why I can't do this myself.

I just want to be sure about the dosage I'm giving is correct. The only thing I found online was this article that says for red mange to inject 1/10 cc of Ivomec per 10 lbs once a week
http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/beag...ecticmange.htm

Call your vet to ask about the dosage. That's not something you really want to guess at.

I've been having a lot of bad experience with vets lately or I would, but right now I'm still searching for a decent vet.
I know how much she weighs and I know it's accurate, because I was taking my dog into the vet once a week and weighing her at home first and then at the vet and the weight was exactly the same. So I know my scale is as accurate as the vet.

I was going to give her 1/10 a ML per 10 pounds orally once a week. I've seen many people say they do 1/10 a ml per 10 pounds daily, but that just seems like it's too much.

If it's demodectic mange...your dog needed treatment for about 3 months...not 1, so that's maybe why it came back. The dosage that I've been given for demodectic mange is 3/10 mL per 11 lbs daily....this is an oral dose. However, if it's sarcoptic mange the dosage is only 2/10mL per 11 lbs twice a week for 1 - 2 months. These two types of mange are different...now, I don't know what breed of dog you have, but some breeds react more strongly to ivermectin than others...if you have a herding dog, or some other breeds, you'd have to cut way back on this dose for it to be safe. Good luck, and be careful.

I also found the beagle breeder's advice for demodectic mange on the Internet and was also confused as to whether he was describing 1/10 cc per 10 lbs for oral or injected treatments. If he means injections, that seems small compared to some other recommendations.

I visited a farm store today looking for demodectic mange treatment advice, and I was lucky enough to meet a man working there who has treated many farm animals and dogs with ivermectin, apparently professionally.

He didn't offer me a specific lbs-to-cc formula, but when I told him I have an almost-grown Golden Retriever mix pup (which happens to be 30 lbs), he recommended 2 cc of ivermectin 1% solution as an injection.

He was specific on that. We had talked a while about demodectic mange, sarcoptic mange and other dog ailments. At one point he had mentioned a 0.5 cc dose, and when I later asked if that for demodectic mange, he said no, a 0.5 dose treats heartworms and sarcoptic, but demodectic mange requires a much higher dose -- 2cc.

So I'm going back tomorrow to get some ivermectin, and to confirm again the 2 cc dose. If he misunderstood and thought I have a full-grown 50-lb dog, 2 cc is too much for my 30-lb pup. But 1-2 cc seems to be in the ballpark.

By the way -- he said that ivermectin and Collies don't mix at all. If anyone is looking for advice on how to treat a Collie, they should definitely avoid home treatments with ivermectin and see a vet instead, if not for treatment then at least for sound advice.

Well, I went back to the farm store and now the man says he never actually gave a dog 2 cc of ivermectin, but he gave a pigeon that much and the pigeon wasn't harmed.

So there ya go.

But he has used ivermectin on dogs and cattle and other animals. He doesn't believe that 2 cc will hurt a 30 pound dog.

I may go with 1.5 cc.

The dosage by shot is different than orally. I went to a few vet books and a few posts and read as much as possible.
The shot is once a week, while orally is daily and the dosage is different.

Typical dose is 200-600 mcg/kg by mouth every 24 hours.
http://www.petplace.com/dogs/demodic...ogs/page4.aspx

I am curretnly doing 300 mcg/kg of the 1%, but I didn't start off with that high. So take the dog's weight in pounds and divide it by 2.2 and then mulitple it by 0.3
So a 40 pound dog would get .03 * 40/2.2 = 0.55C

So a 40 pound dog should get at max 0.55C

I ordered the 1% ivomec from amazon, then went to walgreens and they gave me the 1CC syringe (no needle). The first 3 days I gave her 0.1, then next 3 days 0.2, then the next 3 days 0.3.... etc until I got up to 0.5cc

The total time is about 6 weeks, then do it weekly and at 8 weeks you should do a skin scrapping.

I would just read as much as possible before taking any advise on using ivomec, because I have read posts after posts on other boards of dogs going into commas, seizure or even death.

I've read even Vets who have over dosed dogs, so I would be very careful with ivomec. The best thing I do was probably go to http://books.google.com and open vet book after vet book and when you can get 3 to 4 vets recommending the same dosage your pretty safe. Just don't confuse oral dosage with injections, because the dosage is very differnt.
You can even see humans who get injections of B12 versus taking it orally, the dosage is completely differnt. The other mistake I believe people are making is referring to numbers like 0.4 of the syringe, not indicating that a syringe can be 10ml, 5ml, 3ml or 1ml or anything in between.

On a totally different tangent.....have you tried non-medicinal methods for treating the mange?I personally had very good success with Selsun Blue shampoo(from wal mart). I also just heard last night on a radio program with Dr. Marty Goldstein that 80-90% of animals that he has treated with Selsun(its a prescription version available from most pharmacies) has gotten rid of the mange.Just an idea to throw out there

Originally Posted by ptoot

On a totally different tangent.....have you tried non-medicinal methods for treating the mange?I personally had very good success with Selsun Blue shampoo(from wal mart). I also just heard last night on a radio program with Dr. Marty Goldstein that 80-90% of animals that he has treated with Selsun(its a prescription version available from most pharmacies) has gotten rid of the mange.Just an idea to throw out there

Selsun comes over the counter at 1% concentration and requires a prescription if it's the 2.5% concentration if I'm not mistaken. I'm a little bit confused if you used the over the counter or prescription version of selsun blue?

I've tried so many natural things and sulphur does seem to be an ingredient that works amazing. Neem oil does not have the effect or results that people I've seen have been claiming. Nu-stock with is loaded in sulpur works great, sulfur pills have been working great and I see selsun has sulfur as one of it's ingredients, so seems like it might be something to try and see how it works.

I appreciate the suggestion and I'll give it a try as well to see how things work out with it.

You are right I personally used the selsum blue and it worked well for me.The other selsun I mentioned is a prescription because of the higher percentage.
The one from wal mart also has ketazole(sp?) which is a great helps as well.I found this info in a husky breeder site.My husky had lost approx 80% of her fur...now its re grown in about 3 months

Hi there.
I'm currently facing a similiar problem.
I have an 11 month old shih tzu who's been recently diagnosed with dermodex mange.
there is a huge bald spot on his neck due to the constant scratching.
my vet has said to use ivomec as a medication to help stop the dermodex.
however, he did say that ivomec was not approved by the FDA and has many side effects such as diarrhoea and even death (he says that's rare, though)
i've been giving him ivomec for the past 2 days now, and he seems to be very weak, mostly interested in sleeping. no stamina to play, which is not normal for him.
i'm just wonderin whether ivomec is suitable for a small dog such as mine?
and if i were to shave my puppy bald, would this help?

someone just recently told me that bathing my puppy with "borax" works to get rid of mites.
is this true? any side effects?

Originally Posted by rockingurl27

someone just recently told me that bathing my puppy with "borax" works to get rid of mites.
is this true? any side effects?

There's so many types of baths to give dogs from neem oil based, tea oil based, sulfur based...etc and I've seen borax and hydrogen peroxide mixes that people swear by, but I have not tried that yet to be honest. It's the only thing I haven't tried and I read so many people go on and on about borax mixes.

I've tried the selsun blue for a week now or almost two weeks and it does seem to help a lot. I know sulfur/sulfate are known to kill mites and selsun blue does have sulfate was one of it's ingredients. My dog used to have flakes everywhere and it seems giving her a bath twice a week with selsun blue the dander flakes have disappeared completely. I read that selsun blue has php that's more similar to dogs, so even if your dog doesn't have mange, you can actually use selsun blue all the time.

I'd have to say anything sulfur based seems to help the most. The sulfur or MSM pills made her skin turn back to normal compared to being red/pinkish. nu-stock (loaded in sulfur) did wonders and hair seemed to grow back and I'm actually the happiest using selsun blue compared to all the other shampoo designed for mange.

Neem oil in my opinion is over hyped for working on manage. I've tried the neem extract capsules, neem oil extract pure, mixe with other oil, in my own shampoo and even neem oil shampoo already made and I couldn't tell a big difference at all. If it does anything, it has to be minimal at least in my experience.

Update:
I took my puppy into another vet that told me that the 200-600 mcg/kg is exactly what should be used and that the higher dosage is only what they give as the lower dosage doesn't have much effect.

You basically take the dogs weight, divide it by 2.2 to get the weight in kilograms, then just multiple it by .06 to use 600 mcg.

So a 30 pound dog would require .81cc daily of the 1% solution.

I showed the vet the ivomec that I ordered from amazon and he said to continue using that one. It cost 30 dollars and it's called Ivermectin 1% injection for Cattle & Swine, 50 ml. Which I give her orally

Skin scrapping shows most are dead right now

trust me, i have experience with this
i cc a day for 3 months, orally, unless they are 80 lbs or more then 1.2
it always works fine ,works every time
safe, no side effects
call me if u want to 318-614-6577
George