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    Thanks for the kind words, It's sure been a tough month...I will however file a report with Pegasus lab...but really, I doubt much will be done. What you ALL are doing with this forum is much more effective...GETTING THE WORD OUT! That is my main complaint...that I knew nothing about it!...(a side effect to me is itching, dry mouth, weight gain...etc) I have never had my pets on meds, so it was ignorance on my part, but it sure taught me a huge lesson! Ask questions, and read the fine print....

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    Hi. I had a daschund who just died on Saturday, Feb 20th. I only wish I would have read threw these articles, because my little Jade would still be alive today!

    In December 2009, I took her for a physical. I told the vet she had been peeing in her sleep. The vet said that her bladder muscles were weak because she is old - 15 years. Other than a slight heart murmur, she was in excellent health, and the vet said that she'd probably make it another 3 - 4 years. The vet gave me Proin to give to her.

    December 8th, was her first dose. Within a day or two, she lost her appetite. She wouldn't take the liquid medicine and avoided her food. On December 22nd, I asked the doctor for chewables and told her she wasn't eating or wouldn't take the medicine. Jade took the medicine about a week or so longer, but I saw no signs of improvement (still wetting the bed) and was not eating. I then took her off the medicine. Her appetite return and she seemed normal. I cannot exactly remember the date that I stopped giving her the medicine, but I would have to say she was on the medicine for 3 weeks.

    On Friday, February 19th, she was fine, playing, then at night, she started being vocal and favoring to the left. I have never heard her cry ever! She's always been a tough cookie. I rushed her to the emergency clinic, and they told me that they think she had a stroke. I couldn't understand why - she was just outside playing earlier and in good health.

    Saturday morning I took her into my normal vet, and she seemed to be worse. She couldn't move, was howling/moaning - very vocal. The vet said that he didn't think she'd recover and told me the humane thing to do was put her down. I feel completely HORRIBLE for taking my dog's life. She would have been 16 in April! I believe it was this medicine, Proin. And I feel like a JA for not doing my part in researching the medicine before I gave it to her. But isn't that what vets are for??? Aren't they supposed to be the ones giving us medicine to help our animals, not kill them? I am just tarmatized over the past weekends' events.

    I'm so sorry, Jade. I hope you can forgive me, because I wonder if I can ever forgive myself!!!! My heart still cries for you. xoxoxoxoxoxo

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    I'm so sorry you went through this. I hope your guilt will pass soon, 15 years is VERY long for a pup.

    I'm so glad I found this thread. My dog hasn't had a proin since I read this. She isn't leaking yet, but honestly I would rather steam the carpet every day then have her pass early. She's only 5.

    Jademom - <Hugs>

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    Jades mom,

    I am so sorry for your loss. It breaks my heart each time we lose another to ProIn and nothing gets done about it.

    Please visit my Jasmine at: http://RainbowsBridge.com/residents/...1/Resident.htm

    And read the heartbreak we went thrru.

    My thoughts and prayers are with your family.

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    I'm so sorry to hear this happened again...It makes me sick to my stomach, because I keep going back to that night..."If I had only done this...or that!" The truth is, there is not much you could have done...especially since...you took her off of it...but don't beat yourself up (I did enough of that for both of us!) We are good dog parents, and we were at the professionals office to help our dogs. Right? The vets take on it is, "giving quality" to your dogs life!

    They are going by the "ODDS" of it happening to your dog...the odds for me and you was ...we lost, and believe me, the leaking was not that big of an issue, we used diapers at night, and she seemed to chuckle about it!!! I would have done anything to keep her here...and we did the best we could with what we knew.

    Anyway, I miss her everyday, so in her memory I'll be taking in a few more like her- she started out homeless, and made our house a joy to have her in...That's all I can do to help heal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jademom View Post
    Hi. I had a daschund who just died on Saturday, Feb 20th. I only wish I would have read threw these articles, because my little Jade would still be alive today!

    In December 2009, I took her for a physical. I told the vet she had been peeing in her sleep. The vet said that her bladder muscles were weak because she is old - 15 years. Other than a slight heart murmur, she was in excellent health, and the vet said that she'd probably make it another 3 - 4 years. The vet gave me Proin to give to her.

    December 8th, was her first dose. Within a day or two, she lost her appetite. She wouldn't take the liquid medicine and avoided her food. On December 22nd, I asked the doctor for chewables and told her she wasn't eating or wouldn't take the medicine. Jade took the medicine about a week or so longer, but I saw no signs of improvement (still wetting the bed) and was not eating. I then took her off the medicine. Her appetite return and she seemed normal. I cannot exactly remember the date that I stopped giving her the medicine, but I would have to say she was on the medicine for 3 weeks.

    On Friday, February 19th, she was fine, playing, then at night, she started being vocal and favoring to the left. I have never heard her cry ever! She's always been a tough cookie. I rushed her to the emergency clinic, and they told me that they think she had a stroke. I couldn't understand why - she was just outside playing earlier and in good health.

    Saturday morning I took her into my normal vet, and she seemed to be worse. She couldn't move, was howling/moaning - very vocal. The vet said that he didn't think she'd recover and told me the humane thing to do was put her down. I feel completely HORRIBLE for taking my dog's life. She would have been 16 in April! I believe it was this medicine, Proin. And I feel like a JA for not doing my part in researching the medicine before I gave it to her. But isn't that what vets are for??? Aren't they supposed to be the ones giving us medicine to help our animals, not kill them? I am just tarmatized over the past weekends' events.

    I'm so sorry, Jade. I hope you can forgive me, because I wonder if I can ever forgive myself!!!! My heart still cries for you. xoxoxoxoxoxo

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    Thank you....I'm sitting here crying because I miss her so much!!! She was fine....she was in excellent condition, and I believed and trusted my vet! I want to kick her ___ for giving me those pills!

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    Jasminemom...

    I read your blog I think on another website - your letter to Jasmine. I haven't stopped crying. I've been discussing this with my husband, who's a nurse, and he believes it was Proin that killed her. Even though she'd been off the medicine for a month or so, the lasting effects of the medicine, he believes is what killed her.

    I've had Jade since I was 21. I'm 37 now, and she's been with me through the hardest and best times. I recently lost her brother, Barney, a daschund too, to colon cancer. He was also blind. He died less than 3 months ago and I'm still not okay. He was 12, almost 13 years old. I was prepared for Barney to go, but not my Jade. Jade loved everyone and yes, just like your Jasmine, would comfort anyone who was sad or neede a friend.

    I keep replaying the events in my head, and I wish to GOD that I would have never taken her into see the vet. After my Barney died, I realized it was Jade peeing the bed. I felt horrible thinking she had a UTI, and I let it go for a long time. The thing that kills me is that after examining my dog, the vet told me she had a slight heart murmur and her liver was a little elavated, but nothing to be considered about because of her age. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD SHE PUT HER ON PROIN KNOWING IT SAYS DO NOT GIVE TO ANIMALS WITH HEART ISSUES!!!!!

    It was today that I sat at work and thought and wondered what happened to my Jade? What events happened in the past few months that changed her overnight? The only thing she took was Proin. Her weight went from 13 lbs in December to 10 lbs when she died. Trust me, Jade ate everything!!!! Her eating habits changed after being on Proin, and when I took her off, it was never the same again. I counted the pills left in the bottle....she had taken 9 pills (but they were broken up in sections of 4). They went right in the trash!

    I know she would have lived another 3-4 years. She was in excellent health. I wish I would have never taken her in to see the vet. I wish I would have research Proin before I gave it to her. I feel like I killed my dog...my best friend!!! Sorry just doesn't fix this.

    I told everyone - everyone on Facebook. I filed out that form. I want to do more. I want her back. It's not fair!!!!!

    Please anyone don't give your dog this.....My husband said, that even though you may only give your dog it a few days, the lasting effects can be deadly.

    Thanks Jasminemom for thinking of me. It's just hard with both of them

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    Thanks GroovyGroomer.....

    I tried to help my little girl by taking to see the vet b/c I thought she had a UTI. I ended up killing her giving her Proin. I can't seem to get past this. I feel HORRIBLE!!!

    Yes, 15 year is a long time, but little dogs can live to 18 years, even 20 or more. There is one daschund who is 26 years and still living.

    I miss my girl....please spread the word to everyone....people who don't have pets know people who do.

    Thank you again.

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    nalalasmom,

    Thank you. I haven't stopped replaying everything in my mind. And just today I realized it was the Proin. The wetting the bed wasn't an issue for me either. I was used to washing her bed every day. I just thought she had a UTI. The vet said a weak bladder muscle and Proin will help, even after she told me that she had a heart murmur and it wasn't a big concern. I asked her if it was a good idea to put her on this medicine with her being so old. She said it's fine, the medicine won't cause any issues. It will help her bladder muscles. I though I was helping. She mention NO bad side effects. I trusted them! I feel so betrayed. But even though they are the ones at fault, I share the guilt because I should have looked up the medicine and researched it.

    I can't say sorry to my little Jade. She's gone. I'll never get to pet her again. Watch movies with her. Watch her chase lizards. Take her for rides or ask her for a kiss.

    Sorry, I can't stop crying.........

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    Jademom, nalalasmom, I so understand the guilt, the pain you are feeling. Jasmine has been gone almost 6 mns and I'm still crying, still miss her so much. We as parents of those lost to Proin can only continue this fight by telling all we know about how bad this drug is-warn pet lovers not to give this drug-warn furbaby parents to get a Client Information Sheet before we give them a drug.

    We know how they were before given this drug-we know how they reacted after this drug. It is leathal.

    Thoughts and prayers,

    Cheryl and Angel Jasmine

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    Thank you for the posting and any updates you may come across.
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    Update:

    According to the FDA, I'm the only person who has complained about ProIn??
    How can this be true? Is the FDA not telling me the truth? I don't understand.
    Jasmine is not the only lost to this killer drug.

    Cheryl and Angel Jasmine

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    I realize this is a very old thread, but my dog was on Proin for a few months. After reading this thread, I realized that my 10 year old Pepper has many of the symptoms listed. She hated the Proin, but we kept mixing it in tasty food so that she would eat it. We stopped it after reading this, but she started peeing again all over everything. Now she is on hormones, however I am afraid it is too late. She is lethargic, stopped eating much of anything, and pants hard after going up or down our steps. Hopefully after a trip to the vet she will be her old playful self again. If not, please read this before putting your dog on Proin!

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    smaree 123, I am so sorry that your sweet Pepper and you are going thru this. Reading this brings back a flood of not so good memories. Jasmine only took ProIn for 4 days and lost her battle weeks later. There is not a day that goes by that I do not shed a tear over this and kick myself for not researching it before I gave it to her. But it is so necessary to report to the FDA ANY AND ALL adverse reactions to all drugs. They won't know the harmful effects unless we tell them. Please do this for Pepper to help protect another innocent furbaby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smaree123 View Post
    I realize this is a very old thread, but my dog was on Proin for a few months. After reading this thread, I realized that my 10 year old Pepper has many of the symptoms listed. She hated the Proin, but we kept mixing it in tasty food so that she would eat it. We stopped it after reading this, but she started peeing again all over everything. Now she is on hormones, however I am afraid it is too late. She is lethargic, stopped eating much of anything, and pants hard after going up or down our steps. Hopefully after a trip to the vet she will be her old playful self again. If not, please read this before putting your dog on Proin!
    Has she had a complete blood workup recently?
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    My sweet Pepper passed away tonight. The bloodwork showed she was very anemic, and the dr prescribed 17 mg of prednisone 2x per day. That was yesterday. I guess we'll never know if it was the Proin or not. She was a healthy vivacious 10 year old dog up until 2 weeks ago.

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    smaree123, Words cannot described how saddened I am to hear this about your beloved Pepper. I am so sorry for your loss. I truly understand what you are going thru right now as I relive this every day. In my opinion, the ProIn triggers any underling health problems and manifests it. It cannot be proven now, but as you said and I have said a thousands times. "She was a healthy, vivacious 10 yro dog' until she took ProIn. So was my beloved Jasmine. Please email me at: jasi96@hotmail.com whenever you want to talk about Pepper. I'm thinking about you and praying for Pepper and those who loved him.
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    Any tips on how to get a dog to actually eat fresh parsley? I was using it for a while with my pups (mostly to help with their breath), but gave up after a couple of weeks as I was tired of washing it all out of their bowls and down the drain!

    My older boy has a little bit of incontinence, so I would sure love to try the parsley again and see if it helps. He was on Propalin for a while.. I weaned him off of it about a month ago, and the leaking has come back, so I was about to start up the meds again, but would definitely rather try parsley first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smaree123 View Post
    I realize this is a very old thread, but my dog was on Proin for a few months. After reading this thread, I realized that my 10 year old Pepper has many of the symptoms listed. She hated the Proin, but we kept mixing it in tasty food so that she would eat it. We stopped it after reading this, but she started peeing again all over everything. Now she is on hormones, however I am afraid it is too late. She is lethargic, stopped eating much of anything, and pants hard after going up or down our steps. Hopefully after a trip to the vet she will be her old playful self again. If not, please read this before putting your dog on Proin!
    I posted here about an issue with leaking urine last spring. I had 3 dogs who got bladder infections last winter (probably viral). 1 had surgery for bladder stones. Although he has to go out frequently he was weaned off proin after 3 weeks and doesn't leak. Another dog never needed proin-antibiotics worked and he is fine. The 3rd dog has had multiple complete blood work, xrays, and urinalysis (the latest last week). No sign of any infection or organ problems but even on proin he leaves spots around 6 times a day. Without proin he leaks continually. He is only 8! His leaking has completly destroyed all carpets and even some flooring in my small house. I just don't know how to cope. I have an excellent vet and I wouldn't consider putting him down just for this but what to do?!! Does anyone know any alternatives? I'll try anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alison4 View Post
    Does anyone know any alternatives? I'll try anything.
    Maybe a belly band (doggy diaper for boys)? You'd probably have to buy an extra-absorbent insert, but I think that would be a good option.

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