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    Anyone used Slentrol the new diet Medicine for dogs?

    Has anyone tried or knows of anyone that has tried the new diet medicine for dogs called Slentrol? my vet recommended it for our Bulldog but I am trying to get some insight if anyone else has tried it. It's fairly new so they dont have a long term study on it but the facts taht I have read so far seems like it could be dangerous for her also considering she is a Bully and allergic to everything and anything. Any insight on the diet medicine Slentrol would be greatly appreciated. Thanks =0)
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    I think it would be a lot easier and safer to just cut down on your dog's food. Same as people who fool araound with diet stuff, the weight always comes back and there are some serious side effects from some of those diets. I prefer to cut my portions and never have seconds, it helps in the right way and the weight stays off. I bought a smaller size plate to make sure I didn't overload which is what happens with the large size plates. And I never have dessert, except for a fruit, or sherbet.
    I wouldn't dream of giving junk like that to my dog. I had to put one of my dogs on a diet before and they adapt quite well. You can add cooked squash as a filler if the dog seems too hungry. But leaner is better for all dogs.
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    If your bully is having problems losing weight, first get a 4 or 6 panel thyroid drawn. These thyroid tests are sent to LABS not done inthe office and can determine if your dog is hypothyroid, which can cause difficulty losing wieght as well as many other problems that our beloved Bullies are prone to.

    Next, look at a carb free diet for her, something along the lines of EVO dog food or go to a BARF raw diet. This will provide all the nutrition she needs without the dog feeling hungry or deprived.

    Then get her MOVING! Bullies tend to be lazy, a couple of walks a day, the dog park to run and play with other dogs whatever, but the more she moves the better off she'll be in the long run nad the fewer joint problems she'll have as she gets older.

    Drugs (other than a thyroid program if she needs it) are a last resort for weight loss, they tend to be hard on the heart and the liver.

    http://petdiabetes.wikia.com/wiki/Low-carb_diet

    http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=449

    http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=449
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    Thank you for your insight! the only problem why the vet recommeded this medicine was because she just tore her cruciate ligament and will need surgery more than likely to repair it and the vet said more that likely no surgeons will operate on her due to her weight and since she is on a strict no exercise plan I am unable to keep up with her daily walks and trips to the dog parks now =0( this is very trying for us cause she also was diagnosed with kidney problems as well. I have ordered some books on the BARF diet I never really heard of it before until this week when I was doing research to alternative methods for dieting! I need to figure out if this will be good for kidney's or not? I am guessing it should be since it's not kibble but I just need to do research and see how it works I have no clue how to do it or where to start so hopefully these books i have ordered will give me some insight! We have had the thyroid test done actually last week it was part of the procedure to getting started on this diet medicine was to take these tests and she came back fine and they did recheck her kidney values and said they were also looking good. Right now she is ont he Canine KD food. Thank you for your help!


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    If your bully is having problems losing weight, first get a 4 or 6 panel thyroid drawn. These thyroid tests are sent to LABS not done inthe office and can determine if your dog is hypothyroid, which can cause difficulty losing wieght as well as many other problems that our beloved Bullies are prone to.

    Next, look at a carb free diet for her, something along the lines of EVO dog food or go to a BARF raw diet. This will provide all the nutrition she needs without the dog feeling hungry or deprived.

    Then get her MOVING! Bullies tend to be lazy, a couple of walks a day, the dog park to run and play with other dogs whatever, but the more she moves the better off she'll be in the long run nad the fewer joint problems she'll have as she gets older.

    Drugs (other than a thyroid program if she needs it) are a last resort for weight loss, they tend to be hard on the heart and the liver.

    http://petdiabetes.wikia.com/wiki/Low-carb_diet

    http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=449

    http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=449
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    Ugh, KD is HORRIBLE food! Here are some sites t ogive you more info on Raw diets.

    http://www.canismajor.com/dog/barf.html

    http://www.rawlearning.com/

    http://www.preciouspets.org/newslett...ilure-diet.htm
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    Re: Anyone used Slentrol the new diet Medicine for dogs?

    THank you for those links I already checked them out and I think I'm definatly going to try this once I figure it out =0) I'm just confused ont he raw diet and the BARF diet. It seems as they are two different things. One says do not have any veggies etc and the other says yes.? so i will do a little more research on that! I appreciate your help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dleggs15 View Post
    THank you for those links I already checked them out and I think I'm definatly going to try this once I figure it out =0) I'm just confused ont he raw diet and the BARF diet. It seems as they are two different things. One says do not have any veggies etc and the other says yes.? so i will do a little more research on that! I appreciate your help!
    I am not familiar with Slentrol.

    First I do not feed raw!! I have read a lot on raw feeding here are links if you really want to learn to feed raw.

    http://rawlearning.com/

    http://www.rawfed.com/myths/index.html

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding

    http://www.rawfeddogs.net/

    http://dogaware.com.hosting.domaindi...ng.html#co-ops

    The BARF diet is a lot of work; you might want to try the “prey model”.

    Actually doing NV would probably be the easiest. It's available in pet stores.
    http://www.naturesvariety.com/content.lasso?page=1483

    Be sure to do lots of research before attempting the raw diet. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patt View Post
    I am not familiar with Slentrol.

    First I do not feed raw!! I have read a lot on raw feeding here are links if you really want to learn to feed raw.

    http://rawlearning.com/

    http://www.rawfed.com/myths/index.html

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding

    http://www.rawfeddogs.net/

    http://dogaware.com.hosting.domaindi...ng.html#co-ops

    The BARF diet is a lot of work; you might want to try the “prey model”.

    Actually doing NV would probably be the easiest. It's available in pet stores.
    http://www.naturesvariety.com/content.lasso?page=1483

    Be sure to do lots of research before attempting the raw diet. Good luck!
    NV is easiest, but it's also very expensive. You can do Prey Model or BARF cheaply by buying wholesale.
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    I havn't heard of the NV diet but after looking at the website it looks pretty easy! I am going to look into both factors! The NV would probably be easiest for me and my fiance. He is a vegetarion and doesn't touch meat and he is partially responsible for the feedings when I am not home and I think he would be able to do the NV diet better than an actual raw diet! But I will look into both and speak with him. If you use NV do you do only the frozen raw or do you mix the kibble in with it? I was reading but it said u could do either way I didn't know if you had experiance doing one or the other? THanks again! I'm learning a lot that I had no clue was even available!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dleggs15 View Post
    If you use NV do you do only the frozen raw or do you mix the kibble in with it? I was reading but it said u could do either way I didn't know if you had experiance doing one or the other? THanks again! I'm learning a lot that I had no clue was even available!
    I have no experience, I do not feed raw. The people I know usually take 1 or 2 patties out at night let it defrost in the refrig and it's ready to feed in the morning. I believe some feed w/kibble others don't. I thought it was best to feed NV by itself, but I'm not sure. There is a lot of raw feeders on this board so I'm sure they will have the answer for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dleggs15 View Post
    I havn't heard of the NV diet but after looking at the website it looks pretty easy! I am going to look into both factors! The NV would probably be easiest for me and my fiance. He is a vegetarion and doesn't touch meat and he is partially responsible for the feedings when I am not home and I think he would be able to do the NV diet better than an actual raw diet! But I will look into both and speak with him. If you use NV do you do only the frozen raw or do you mix the kibble in with it? I was reading but it said u could do either way I didn't know if you had experiance doing one or the other? THanks again! I'm learning a lot that I had no clue was even available!
    All the people I spoke with prior to deciding to do raw for my dogs said if you choose to do a combination raw/kibble diet ( this is what my vet recommends) one meal should be kibble ( we do b'fast) and one raw ( dinner). I was told not to mix them together because you want their short digestive tract to process the raw fairly quickly. Kibble is processed much slower than raw.
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    If your dog is on K/D it is because of a health issue. I would be cautious when trying new diets due to the possibilities of making the kidney issues worse. If your vet could refer you to a holistic vet close to you that would be the best way to find an appropriate diet that would be safe for his kidneys as well as be healthy and supportive of a healthy weight.

    As for the Slentrol, I would only use it as a last resort. Try a diet change first and see how it goes.
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    If your dog is on K/D it is because of a health issue. I would be cautious when trying new diets due to the possibilities of making the kidney issues worse.

    As for the Slentrol, I would only use it as a last resort. Try a diet change first and see how it goes.
    ITA please be very careful. K/D is a diet specifically for dogs with kidney problems. I know she has to lose weight but possibly less food with fillers such as a few carrots and green beans (no salt) might be a better way to do. Since she does have health problems please clear any diet change with your vet first.
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    Hi. I happen to represent the Slentrol medicine in my territory and would encourage you to ask your veterinarian to ask his/her Rep for some referrels of other clinics using Slentrol or if they already have dogs on it and how it is doing. But, let me give you some information about Slentrol and maybe you can make a more informed choice. Let me start by saying that "diet and exercise" are the recommended way for weight loss. But, "fat" has its own metabolism and produces a barrage of hormones. When those hormones get to a certain level, they actually have a reverse affect on causing the body to become "not hungry." Slentrol works with an enzyme "MTP" which normally packages digested lipids for entry into the bloodstream. A hormone named Peptide YY raises in the bloodstream therefore telling the dog it is full via the hypothalmus. In 12 months of study, given at 10 times the maximum dose, not one dog died. ALP levels in the liver actually decreased post Slentrol. And all levels came back to normal after treatment was completed. Slentrol, used correctly, will take weight off the dog and assist in realizing how much food is appropriate for the dog during the "weight management" phase. They target about 3% weight loss per month so the dog does not lose muscle mass. Once the dog has lost weight and they stop taking Slentrol the appetite will return to normal within 1-2 days. But; hopefully, working with your veterinarian, it can be determined the best diet amount to feed along with exercise to keep the dogs weight under control. Should you decide to use the product, please do not wash the syringe as water will cause the product to not be effective anymore.

    Now, you should also know that I am not just "selling" as I believe in a lot of approaches when it comes to treating my animals. Conventional, Accupuncture and Chiropratic. They all have there place and when used accordingly are very effective. I was "googling" Slentrol to see what was out there and came across your post. Let's face it, any amount of weight loss is a good thing.

    I have seen a lot of great results. Some that actually brought tears to my eyes because of the stories. I encourage you to speak to your Veterinarian more about Slentrol and if you trust their judgement you should be able to make the best decision. Afterall, most Veterinarians that I know aren't sales persons. They just love what they do for the animals.
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    Well I know I started this thread awhile ago but I wanted to give my insight on this medicine Slentrol!

    I know there were people on here and other forums who were against it but I decided to give it a try and I'm glad that I did!

    When Rosie was first put on the medicine in March she weighed 71 lbs. and thats very overweight for a Bulldog. Now almost 6 months later she is down to 60 lbs. and boy what a difference!

    The medicine was supposed to be given for a period of 9 months but we decided to stop giving it to her after about 5 months sicne we had learned what her food intake should be a day with proper exercise! So although there were skeptics about the medicine it really did help us along with exercise!

    There were some side affects but nothing serious. She would vomit once or twice a day for the first week or two on the medicine and then after that she was fine. You did see a VERY noticable change in how much she wanted to eat!

    I just wanted to share my story of how my baby is on the path to becoming more fit and health! and she def is alot more happy and energetic!
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    The adverse reactions associated with treatment with SLENTROL include vomiting, loose stools/diarrhea, lethargy, and anorexia. These adverse reactions were mainly observed during the first month of treatment or during the week after a dose increase. Vomiting was usually mild in severity, of short duration, and resolved with continued SLENTROL treatment. The SLENTROL-treated dogs generally had an increased frequency and duration of vomiting and diarrhea compared to the control dogs. The control dogs received corn oil.
    In addition to the adverse reactions listed above, there were other abnormal findings. Many control and SLENTROL-treated dogs had dental disease, abnormal skin and ear findings, and lameness.
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    Susie, my Bernsese cross is quite a heavy set dog and over the winter put on a lot of weight. As I do Agility with her I wanted her to lose weight. I tried a few "diet" dog foods and they did not help at all. It was then recommended that I feed her the amount of dog food for the weight she should be. It took about three months but she is now down to her proper weight of just under 70 lbs. I do agree that Diet Medicine may be necessary for some really obese dogs but think it is healthier for the dog if you can just reduce their food, the same with people.
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    KD is actually an excellent food for pets with kidney issues. To anyone reading this, please consult your vet before trying a homemade or raw diet, especially for special needs pets.

    I'm glad Slentrol worked for you, but for educational purposes I would like to point out that for many clients at the vet clinic where I work, the side effects (vomiting, diarrhea) were too significant for the clients to feel comfortable continuing its use.

    Just thought I would share my opinions and experience.
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    KD is actually an excellent food for pets with kidney issues. To anyone reading this, please consult your vet before trying a homemade or raw diet, especially for special needs pets.

    I'm glad Slentrol worked for you, but for educational purposes I would like to point out that for many clients at the vet clinic where I work, the side effects (vomiting, diarrhea) were too significant for the clients to feel comfortable continuing its use.

    Just thought I would share my opinions and experience.

    We just went to the vet again this past Wed and had a pretty good check-up!

    I understand what you are saying about people not feeling comfortable continuing it because of some side affects! I was scared to death! but the reason I really wanted to do it is because she was starting to head to the bridge sooner with all her weight! and right before we decided to use Slentrol we had to spend $3,500 for Rosie to have surgery to remove a MCT and amputate here toe! With that big scare already I wanted to do what I felt was the pest option for us to help her get where she needs! before using the medicine we were way over feeding her but after using the Medicine we learned how much food she actually needed! it wasn't the easiest thing to get used to not seeing your baby eating tht much and having an upset belly! I did worry very much but she did it probably a total of 4 days out of the first 2 weeks and after that everything was normal in her!

    Vet said she looked really good and even though she has skin allergies and itch's a lot he said she still looked great compared to other Bulldogs he has been seeing! her coat is nice and healthy and she looked good! she is starting to develop some arthritus but we are going to start her on some joint supplements!

    Sorry this was so long...like I said I know not everyone will agree with it but I wanted to share my positive experiance although I know thats not everyone's case! Thanks for reading!
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    My dog has been on the medicine for 5 weeks.He has gone down ,17-12 lbs.There has been little side effects.We also changed him to weight loss food.
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