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    Quote Originally Posted by hanksimon View Post
    Was the vet able to drain it?
    Before Saturday came..
    My wife called me from home telling me the tumor on Lonis belly started to bleed and ooze.
    I was at work in the city, Hours away from home..I told her to call the vet immediatly .
    The vet told her that this is what happens and its not an emergency.Its going to bleed and ooze.

    but, I feel like I should do something ...but I dont know what.
    The dog is acting perfectly normal, like nothing is wrong. Shes not in pain.
    but all I see is just a ticking time bomb growing on her belly...

    Im definatly considering having the tumor removed.

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    Today I came home to a house full of blood on the floor.
    Her tail and stomach are covered in dry fluid..and the tumor is still bleeding and oozing.
    This is horrible...does it eventually stop bleeding and growing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roloni View Post
    Today I came home to a house full of blood on the floor.
    Her tail and stomach are covered in dry fluid..and the tumor is still bleeding and oozing.
    This is horrible...does it eventually stop bleeding and growing?
    I would say that's more than reason enough for a trip to the vet. I hope she's okay ! I never had a tumor rupture but I would be on my way to the vet asap!
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    My wife took Loni to the vet today..
    and he said he would not consider doing surgery.
    Bandage or wrap the tumor was the advice...

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    My dog had cancer as well. The tumor grew so fast, I didn't even know that they could grow that fast. Hers grew to about half of a cantaloupe in probably a week or so. It was on her side, rooted in her rib cage and inoperable, but she also acted like nothing was wrong. It looked awful, but she didn't seem to care for a while, maybe a month or more. Her tumor started to fester on the inside, which we discovered while doing aspirations at various specialists to get second opinions. The vet said that the tumors basically start to rot from the inside out. We put her on antibiotics and that fixed the tumor rot thing - she was happy go lucky, acting like things were fine. The antibiotics extended her life about a month, we got to do some things in that time, we went on slow walks alone, we collected the biggest sticks from the field and drug them around in the sun, we went swimming for the last time; and then one day she refused her antibiotic pill and decided she didn't want to eat anymore. It was time. I feel like it will never get easier.

    The antibiotics made our last times together just like old-times, we were able to make more memories than we would have otherwise and they made her end of life better, because she didn't have to suffer the infection. I have no idea if your girl might have the same experience with similar treatment. If all else seems normal and she's not acting like there's any problems or pain, then it seems like it might be worth asking the vet about it, if only to ease the transition into end of life care. I am so sorry you're going through this. I know it hurts terribly, I wish you all the best.

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    Man, what a tough decision to make. And if the vet refuses to operate then your hands are tied. Or are they? Personally I would go to another vet and see if they will do the operation. I would do it for $1000.

    We have a 15 year old terrier mix we adopted from a dog rescue. He has 2 growths on his underside. One of them is a bit to the side. Our vet *will* operate to remove or biopsy if we choose but we decided to wait and see if these grow at all. They are fairly small right now. If they were to grow like your dog's tumor, we'd have it removed in a heartbeat. Granted, I'm not saying that this is the *right* decision to make. It's only the one that we would make because except for his age and these growths, you wouldn't believe our dog is 15 years old. He is spunky, runs around like he's 2 years old and is happy. He does get tired and we can see the years on his face as it's gone grey, but he is energetic and happy. I honestly think he will live to his 20's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
    My dog had cancer as well. The tumor grew so fast, I didn't even know that they could grow that fast. Hers grew to about half of a cantaloupe in probably a week or so. It was on her side, rooted in her rib cage and inoperable, but she also acted like nothing was wrong. It looked awful, but she didn't seem to care for a while, maybe a month or more. Her tumor started to fester on the inside, which we discovered while doing aspirations at various specialists to get second opinions. The vet said that the tumors basically start to rot from the inside out. We put her on antibiotics and that fixed the tumor rot thing - she was happy go lucky, acting like things were fine. The antibiotics extended her life about a month, we got to do some things in that time, we went on slow walks alone, we collected the biggest sticks from the field and drug them around in the sun, we went swimming for the last time; and then one day she refused her antibiotic pill and decided she didn't want to eat anymore. It was time. I feel like it will never get easier.

    The antibiotics made our last times together just like old-times, we were able to make more memories than we would have otherwise and they made her end of life better, because she didn't have to suffer the infection. I have no idea if your girl might have the same experience with similar treatment. If all else seems normal and she's not acting like there's any problems or pain, then it seems like it might be worth asking the vet about it, if only to ease the transition into end of life care. I am so sorry you're going through this. I know it hurts terribly, I wish you all the best.
    Thanx for sharing your experience with this..and I will look into the antibiotic idea as well.

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    Man, what a tough decision to make. And if the vet refuses to operate then your hands are tied. Or are they? Personally I would go to another vet and see if they will do the operation. I would do it for $1000.

    We have a 15 year old terrier mix we adopted from a dog rescue. He has 2 growths on his underside. One of them is a bit to the side. Our vet *will* operate to remove or biopsy if we choose but we decided to wait and see if these grow at all. They are fairly small right now. If they were to grow like your dog's tumor, we'd have it removed in a heartbeat. Granted, I'm not saying that this is the *right* decision to make. It's only the one that we would make because except for his age and these growths, you wouldn't believe our dog is 15 years old. He is spunky, runs around like he's 2 years old and is happy. He does get tired and we can see the years on his face as it's gone grey, but he is energetic and happy. I honestly think he will live to his 20's.
    The problem is not only the large growing tumor on her tummy...its also in her lungs , 2 spots you can see in the xrays..
    As the vet explained to me : "Removing the mammary tumor would only be cosmetic , The cancer is also in her lungs. I wouldnt consider doing this surgery on your 15 year old dog with cancer thats also in her lungs.."
    Thats basically what hes telling me..and hes also concerned about putting her under anesthesia for the operation.

    If it was only a tumor on her tummy..I would have had it removed immediatly..
    Unfortunatly that tumor is only the tip of the iceberg.

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    sounds like the tumor on her stomach definitely has fluid build up in it and that's why it's oozing, wish there was something I could say to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keechak View Post
    sounds like the tumor on her stomach definitely has fluid build up in it and that's why it's oozing, wish there was something I could say to help.
    Thanx
    Im pretty sure the vet is giving me good advice..kinda feeling like I should do something....and I dont know what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roloni View Post
    Its a week later and this tumor has doubled in size...
    Loni is acting like nothings wrong...but Im very concerned.The tumor looks like its about to explode.
    YOu could try natural treatments, they won't cure, but could prolong and improve the quality of life and help reduce the mammary tumor itself. One of the most reccomended herbs for this is Tumeric (I've heard alot about anti tumor properties with this herb), I'd also add fish body oils (also anti-inflamitory) and Querciten.

    No matter what you decide to do we're all here for you.

    You might also check this site out, it also has a forum for dog owners who's dogs have been diagnosed with cancer as well as dietary options to help.
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    Honestly with the proper workup I wouldn't be too worried about the anesthesia. Yes there is always a risk, and you'll never really know until you do it. But I've seen numerous dogs with far more severe health complications handle anesthesia just fine; in fact many of them did much better than younger healthy dogs because they don't need as much drugs for proper anesthetic depth. That being said all of the mammary tumors over the size of a grape that I've seen removed have returned within 6 months.

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    This probably isn't too helpful, but my stepsister had an elderly cat with an oozing/bleeding tumor on his side for several years. He wore a t-shirt to protect the spot, and did quite well up until the end. Similar thing--she didn't have the money to operate, and the vet didn't recommend it because of the cat's age anyway (he was 18 or so when he died, and had the tumor for at least a year and a half or two years... I don't remember the exacts).

    I would think preventing infection would be one of the more important issues to consider if your vet doesn't think much more can be done.

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    I am just hoping you find an answer to help keep the tumor at bay for a bit and a comfort zone for your girl. My thoughts and prayers are still with all of you. I only wish I had some constructive advice ...


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    My vet did recommend fish oil like you said, Not to cure the cancer but to help her body to deal with some of the toxins
    or something like that.

    Shes now wearing a doggie diaper to keep the tumor covered/protected..
    but...what bothers me the most..

    I do remember being told years ago , that spaying a female dog would almost 100% prevent this type of cancer..and if thats true...
    I could have prevented this by having her spayed when she was a puppy.

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    It's not 100% but damn near close if they get spayed before their first heat to prevent the cancer.
    the risk is slightly more if spayed after the first but before the second heat.

    I think after that (second) or after the third there is no benefit to a spay to prevent mammary cancer ( I believe that's what my vet told me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roloni View Post
    what bothers me the most..

    I do remember being told years ago , that spaying a female dog would almost 100% prevent this type of cancer..and if thats true...
    I could have prevented this by having her spayed when she was a puppy.
    Spaying by two years reduces the instance of this cancer, NOTHING completely eliminates it. However the earlier you spay the higher the risk of MUCH worse and more common osteosarcoma which is rapid progressing, tends to show MUCH younger and much more aggressive. BOTH the Rotties my mother lost young were pediatric S/N, both died of Osteosarcomas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cshellenberger View Post
    Spaying by two years reduces the instance of this cancer, NOTHING completely eliminates it. However the earlier you spay the higher the risk of MUCH worse and more common osteosarcoma which is rapid progressing, tends to show MUCH younger and much more aggressive. BOTH the Rotties my mother lost young were pediatric S/N, both died of Osteosarcomas.
    Thanx..
    If spaying helps prevent this type of cancer , but can cause another type of cancer at a younger age...then maybe spaying isnt the answer to cancer prevention.

    Right now things aint good...Its just getting worst day by day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cshellenberger View Post
    Spaying by two years reduces the instance of this cancer, NOTHING completely eliminates it. However the earlier you spay the higher the risk of MUCH worse and more common osteosarcoma which is rapid progressing, tends to show MUCH younger and much more aggressive. BOTH the Rotties my mother lost young were pediatric S/N, both died of Osteosarcomas.
    There's a good article about the costs/benefits of spaying and neutering here.

    The author found that, based solely on health considerations (not behavior, convenience, over-population, or anything else), spaying after 6 months but before the first heat is best for non-reproducing females. The rates of mammary cancer and pyometra are extraordinarily high in females left intact. "For female dogs, the high incidence and high percentage of malignancy of mammary neoplasia, and the significant effect of spaying on decreasing its incidence make ovariohysterectomy prior to the first heat the best recommendation for non-breeding animals." Simply put, the benefits of spaying out-way the costs. (See "conclusions" for details.)

    According to the article, osteosarcoma has a very low incidence in general (only 0.2%). Yes, s/n does increase the risk, but it's still extremely low. And it's a very breed-specific cancer. If you have a breed that is prone to it (eg: irish wolfhounds) or there is a family history of lots of bone cancer, this might be something worth considering. Otherwise, not so much.

    For male dogs, it's a different story. The cancer risks of neutering out-way the cancer benefits. However, despite this, neutered dogs do live longer than intact male dogs, on average. So I think it's a toss up with males. (Again, I'm solely talking about health considerations, nothing else.)
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    Its 3 months later , and the tumor has grown to about the size of my two hands put together.
    Its ruptured in 5 separate spots , and constantly bleeding.
    The dog is still eating and wagging her tail and alert!, but she spends most of her time licking this horrible growth and sleeping.
    The smell is unbearable..

    I know that if I take her to the vet...Hes going to recommend putting her down.
    My wife is totally against having her put to sleep ...and I really dont want to do that either.

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