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    I have a shih-tzu pup as well and after exhausting myself researching like you guys have done, I found that the active ingredient in angel eyes, which is also in Orijen's Regional Red recipe, is beef liver. I've actually put my dog on Regional Red and found this out to be a convenient side effect, but when I rotate him off of it I will be sure to give him beef liver supplement for sure!

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    Quote Originally Posted by Vickchick View Post
    I have a shih-tzu pup as well and after exhausting myself researching like you guys have done, I found that the active ingredient in angel eyes, which is also in Orijen's Regional Red recipe, is beef liver. I've actually put my dog on Regional Red and found this out to be a convenient side effect, but when I rotate him off of it I will be sure to give him beef liver supplement for sure!
    This is extremely interesting! ............. any other info on this?


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    Hi everyone, this is my first time posting. I usually just read and agree or disagree, however as a groomer AND a vet tech, I couldn't pass this one up. First off, by all means, get the eyes checked out by your vet, see if theres a way to treat the source than to cover the symptoms of a problem. Second, teramycin products are antibiotic in nature which has been pointed out already. There are many products out their that do not contain this ingredient. Please if thats the way you choose to handle the problem, choose a product without. Third, and my reason for adding my two cents, using products that change the ph of the secretions to stop the staining will change the ph of more than just the tears. Many urinary tract problems are due to an upset ph, and while you are killing the "bad" bacteria causing the staining there are also "good" bacteria in the body which may also be killed causing further problems. Whatever method you choose, go into it informed, and discuss with your vet.My two cents.

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    i'm not suggesting this..just sharing what i did

    minnie and max both had TERRIBLE stains. they were on a high-quality dry food diet and we even tried changing the water .. or adding yogurt
    in the end i ordered tylan 40. gave them it once a day for 14 days and stopped. it's been about 3 months and there is little to no staining.. i sitll give them a spoonfull of yogurt once a day though... and they regularly have their faces washed with a warm wash cloth.

    HPH!

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    After hearing a pet store owner tell me (without provocation) that my dog's tear stains were a problem and that I should only give them filtered water (which he gets half the time anyway, which drops the TDS of said water about 50% or 40 ppm), I decided to look online to see where people get this information. The water where I live is very low TDS to begin with.

    I will say there is a huge issue of misinformation on the internet. Anecdotal evidence and home remedies are not science. Period. I won't sit on the sidelines and listen to wackos tell me my tap water is poisoning me with chlorine, and that my dog's tear stains are definitely from minerals in water until I see peer-reviewed evidence saying so. It didn't help that the next day a lady in a dog park went on a random rant about how vaccinating dogs kills them. Enough with the voodoo remedies and pseudoscience from internet forums and blogs. Be gone!

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    Thank you very much for this advice. I looked it up and found it on amazon.com and it had 5 stars from others saying it was a much better substitute for Angel Eyes, it's cheaper and it works. I put it on my wish list until I see if I can get it locally. My Missy's tear stains are very bad and she hates.....and I do mean HATES.....for me to wash her face, so it's almost impossible for me to clean her eyes every day. I'm going to get some. Her stains make the hair mat around her eyes in-between groomer visits and it's embarrassing....I feel it looks like I don't take care of her well.....and I know it's uncomfortable for her.

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    I see advice to mix boric acid powder and starch into a paste and leave it on til morning, but i don't see how that could not at some point end up into the eye. If they're lying down, and then move around with their face on the pillow or whatever, wouldn't it somehow migrate into the eye? I want to use the powder idea because it seems like it would do double duty, absorbing the tears AND treating the stains. But i'm concerned about migration. Any thoughts?

    i too have done distilled water, removing chicken from treats and foods for 6 weeks, zero grain diet, raw with limited ingredients, etc, all to no avail. I'm happy to generally leave them alone except for the fact that they get crusty or horrible.

    I do have the eye drops by born called "eye clear", (which have boric acid in them btw, the vet recs that what i use) using them every day actually does help a bit, but it's such a pita for both him and I that i eventually give up. So i'd love to lay a powder over the stain after i treat the stains with his tear stain pads, otherwise it's wet as can be, even after i dry with a paper towel. but am concerned about potential issues.

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    I too would not be at all comfortable leaving a paste of boric acid and starch on my pup's eyes at night. For one things, she's a puppy and eats anything she things she can get away with, AND the thing about it getting in her eyes....I'd not be able to sleep. Lets go t step B.....whatever that is. As for me, I'm going go order tylan 40 premixed power. I read great reviews on amazon.com about it taking the tear stains away. You have to be patient because it may take a couple of months.....but you just sprinkle a teeny bit on the food....they seem to like it.....and it will take the tear stains away. Sure hope it works.

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    I'd like to ask any and everyone here if they have tried Tylosin Powder (Tylon 40) for tear stains. I'm so frustrated. They are very bad, the vet says there's nothing wrong health-wise and Missy HATES to have her face washed. I have to rub pretty hard to get at it even when I have the hair shaved by the groomer. It grows back out very fast and I'm afraid to get scissors around her eyes. I found this on amazon.com....but it's almost $20 with S&H for 12 ounces. It's WELL worth it IF it does indeed work. I'm sure it would last a long time. So, I'm asking for anyone else who may have had success with this. It got 5 stars from five people there....mostly about removing the tear stains. Thanks in advance.

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    Angel Eyes works because it contains Tylosin. Tylan, tetracycline, panmycin drops (liquid tetracycline) are antibiotics. You should not use those products on a puppy who is teething. They will discolor the adult teeth coming in. Wait until all the adult teeth are in. On some dogs the tearing goes away after the adult teeth are out. So be patient. I have used panmycin drops on my deceased dog and it worked great. Recently I used Angel Eyes with my new dog Charlie and it worked great too. His staining is almost gone completely. I have not finished the bottle. Maybe I am going to finish the bottle to get it cleared completely.

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    Thumbs up Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains....I found something promising

    I have had this same excessive tearing & staining problem with my mini schnauzer/shih tzu since I got her at 8 weeks....she's now 9 months old. I didn't get the Angel Eyes because I read various posts that it doesn't always work and I didn't want to give her anything with antibiotics in it if it may not work. I've just been doing the face washing....which she HATES....and trimming the hair around her eyes. But, I did some more extensive searching and found "Angels' Glow Tear Stain Remover"....lots of great reviews that it works AND has NO antibiotics in it.....and I ordered it on amazon.com for $14.90. That's a LOT less than Angel Eyes. I read on another website that Tylosan can be dangerous for a dog so I was glad I didn't buy it. I have not received this yet....I just ordered it, but I will update later and let everyone know if it works. I just thought I'd write and give you a heads up on something that has no antibiotics in it and people posted reviews that it worked for them....but like anything, it may work for some and not for others.

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains....I found something promising

    Quote Originally Posted by godfreygirl143 View Post
    I have had this same excessive tearing & staining problem with my mini schnauzer/shih tzu since I got her at 8 weeks....she's now 9 months old. I didn't get the Angel Eyes because I read various posts that it doesn't always work and I didn't want to give her anything with antibiotics in it if it may not work. I've just been doing the face washing....which she HATES....and trimming the hair around her eyes. But, I did some more extensive searching and found "Angels' Glow Tear Stain Remover"....lots of great reviews that it works AND has NO antibiotics in it.....and I ordered it on amazon.com for $14.90. That's a LOT less than Angel Eyes. I read on another website that Tylosan can be dangerous for a dog so I was glad I didn't buy it. I have not received this yet....I just ordered it, but I will update later and let everyone know if it works. I just thought I'd write and give you a heads up on something that has no antibiotics in it and people posted reviews that it worked for them....but like anything, it may work for some and not for others.
    Sorry but angels Glow does use Tylosin!!!

    I understand why you would have thought otherwise. the site is far from clear.

    Angels Glow was the first tylosin based tear stain product. The woman that makes it partnered up with another couple. There was some kind of falling out and they went off and set up Angels Eyes (the second tylosin based product). Court cases ensued, tbh I am not aware of the outcome.

    As far as I know Angels Eyes outsells Angels Glow, probably because of better marketing.

    Interestingly the makers of Angels Eyes have tried pushing their antibiotic free Angels Eyes Natural (which looks like a clone of an old version of the natural NaturVet Tear Stain supplement. I suspect that they know that the FDA will eventually start to uphold the law in the USA and ban all of the illegal tylosin based products. It has always been illegal to give dogs tylosin without a prescription!!! (only livestock can be given tylosin for sub-theraputic reasons).

    By contrast Angels Glow is being re-branded as Pets Sparks, yet another tylosin based product.

    To date ALL of the tylosin based makers have been less than honest about making it clear that their products use an antibiotic and they all forget to mention that Tylosin tartrate has not been sufficiently tested on dogs or cats, hence it is not on the approved dog drug list.

    The more that I discover about these firms the more I dislike them and the more I am convinced that they are ONLY interested in making money, hang the health of your loved ones, be they four or two legged. Antibiotic abuse and bacterial resistance affects us all...

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    I have been told but not tried it but to rub the area every day with a warm wet tea bag of regular tea, it is supposed to reduce the stains that exist and prevents new staining from forming. Again this is only what I was told.

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    Thanks for the tip but, if I tried putting a wet tea bag on Missy's eyes, she would definitely NOT like that at all. I was using "Angels' Glow" and the tear stains and watering eyes are totally gone. So I quit using it. She will be one year old this month (July) and she may (just may) have outgrown it....I guess I'll see. BUT....she absolutely LOVES taking a bath. She will get up on the edge of the tub every morning to get a bath. So I put her in every morning just to wash her face, eyes, butt and feet (it's after her morning walk) and she thinks she 'got a bath'. As long as I don't see the tearing and stains, I won't use anything. If it comes back, I'll use the "Angels' Glow" again for a while until it's gone. I never used the amount they said to on the bottle....almost a whole teaspoon full seemed like WAY too much for at 9-pound puppy.....so I only put about 1/4 tsp. on her food and that worked fine. I think I'll save the warm tea bags for MY eye bags.
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    haha no doubt. thats great that it went away

    Quote Originally Posted by godfreygirl143 View Post
    Thanks for the tip but, if I tried putting a wet tea bag on Missy's eyes, she would definitely NOT like that at all. I was using "Angels' Glow" and the tear stains and watering eyes are totally gone. So I quit using it. She will be one year old this month (July) and she may (just may) have outgrown it....I guess I'll see. BUT....she absolutely LOVES taking a bath. She will get up on the edge of the tub every morning to get a bath. So I put her in every morning just to wash her face, eyes, butt and feet (it's after her morning walk) and she thinks she 'got a bath'. As long as I don't see the tearing and stains, I won't use anything. If it comes back, I'll use the "Angels' Glow" again for a while until it's gone. I never used the amount they said to on the bottle....almost a whole teaspoon full seemed like WAY too much for at 9-pound puppy.....so I only put about 1/4 tsp. on her food and that worked fine. I think I'll save the warm tea bags for MY eye bags.
    :-D

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    My wife and I have a 2 year old La-Chon that we adopted from the Humane Society. She had a terrible case of rust colored tear stains. It was so bad that the fur under her eyes was always wet and very dark in color. The best thing we did was to give her only distilled water as mentioned in this post. It has been a month since we switched her to distilled water and you'd never know that she once had a terrible problem. She does have a little staining but not very noticable and her fur is not wet under her eyes. I would say we noticed a 95% improvement.

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    Just wanted to put in my two cents. My puppy had saggy eyelids before his ears went up and was weeping/tear staining quit a bit. His eyes and eyelids were getting irritated from all the crusties. I didn't want to give him Angel Eyes because he was so young, so I did a little research and read about colloidal silver, which I have taken before and know it is quite safe when used in moderation. I bought a bottle of 10ppm and used an eyedropper to put a few drops in and around his eyes (I tried it out on myself as well for the first week to see if there was anything to be concerned about). The crusties and irritation cleared up completely within a few days. I let the tear stained fur fall out/grow back in, as I didn't feel comfortable scrubbing around his eyes with commercial tear stain remover. Its been about 8 weeks since I started using the colloidal silver and no negative side effects. I only use it once every few days now, since his ears are up and his eyelids are no longer saggy...probably will be able to stop using it soon unless his teething messes with his eyelids. Problem solved, I didn't have to spend a fortune, and he didn't have to take any internal antibiotics (something I am against if not absolutely necessary).

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    I have a little white toy poodle/maltese. Tried this....tried that. Then a natural vet told
    me to make strong "black" tea, let it cool and wash her eyes with that. I sometimes do this
    once or twice a day. I dip a cloth in the tea and wash her eyes using a different part of the
    cloth for each eye. I don't know why it works but it does! After all the money and fuss of
    trying different products! I hope you try it and it works well for you also.

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    Quote Originally Posted by tiffanyj View Post
    Hi all. I have a 1 1/2 year old bichon, and here's some interesting things I have noted about her tear staining: . . .

    two months ago, the tear stains started to return! H. . . at the same time she started to get tear stains, she also started to get stains of the same color on her fur immediately around her genitals . . . She is bathed weekly. . . . when she wasn't having the tear stains, her urine wasn't staining her fur either. . . . Any ideas on the cause?
    It sounds like a generalized yeast infection. Yeast infections can be hard to clear, generally require changing the body pH to acidic through diet, or adding something to the diet that has digestive byproducts that kill mold and mildew.

    If your bichon was human, I'd suggest oil of organo, which has a strong bitter flavor, or a crushed leaf product like Oreganax. I'd be hestitant to use the latter with a dog, becasue it also contains onion and garlic. Perhaps feeding her cranberries or unsweetned cranberry juice would help, at least with the urine. An intermediate term term high meat protein diet could also help, as could adding real, unflavored yogurt or a probiotic supplement to her diet.

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    Re: Remove Dog's Tear stains

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry View Post
    I've heard from several sources now about vinegar in the water. But half a cup of apple cider vinegar into about how much water? And will she still want to drink water with vinegar in it? Yuck.
    That was 1/2 a CAP full not a cup full.

    LOL

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