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    Purina One Beyond

    I know that Purina isn't the greatest, but has anyone checked out the newest formula: Purina One Beyond? The ingredients aren't half bad and Dog Food Advisor gives it 3 stars.

    Ingredient lists:

    Chicken & Whole Oat Meal Ingredients:

    Chicken, chicken meal, whole oat meal, whole barley, soybean meal, whole brown rice, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherois (form of Vitamin E), dried beet pulp, dried egg product, natural flavor, fish oil, caramel color, salt, dried carrots, dried tomatoes, dried apples, calcium phosphate, potassium chloride, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, niacin, calcium carbonate, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite.

    Guaranteed Analysis

    Crude Protein (Min) 26.0% Crude Fat (Min) 17.0% Crude Fiber (Max) 4.0% Moisture (Max) 12.0% Linoleic Acid (Min) 1.5% Calcium (Ca) (Min) 1.0% Phosphorus (P) (Min) 0.8% Zinc (Zn) (Min) 150 ppm Selenium (Se) (Min) 0.35 ppm Vitamin A (Min) 14,000 IU/kg Vitamin E (Min) 150 IU/kg Omega-3 Fatty Acids* (Min) 0.35% Omega-6 Fatty Acids* (Min) 1.60%

    Lamb & Whole Barley Ingredients:

    Lamb, chicken meal, whole barley, whole brown rice, whole oat meal, soybean meal, brewers rice, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), dried egg product, brewers dried yeast, dried beet pulp, natural flavor, fish oil, salt, caramel color, whole blueberries, dried sweet potatoes, dried spinach, calcium phosphate, potassium chloride, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, manganese sulfate, niacin, calcium carbonate, Vitamin A supplement, copper sulfate, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite.

    Guaranteed Analysis:

    Crude Protein (Min) 26.0% Crude Fat (Min) 17.0% Crude Fiber (Max) 4.0% Moisture (Max) 12.0% Linoleic Acid (Min) 1.5% Calcium (Ca) (Min) 1.0% Phosphorus (P) (Min) 0.8% Zinc (Zn) (Min) 150 ppm Selenium (Se) (Min) 0.35 ppm Vitamin A (Min) 14,000 IU/kg Vitamin E (Min) 150 IU/kg Omega-3 Fatty Acids* (Min) 0.35% Omega-6 Fatty Acids* (Min) 1.60%

    Now, the "natural flavor" throws me a bit (natural flavor of what?), but, for a Purina product...could be worse.
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    Re: Purina One Beyond

    I don't love the soybean meal, the beet pulp, or the caramel coloring, but you're right...this formula seems to be a big step up from the other stuff Purina makes. Good find!


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    Re: Purina One Beyond

    I don't intend to feed it (I need protein 25% or lower), but I thought for those looking for a less expensive not horrible food, it might be good...better than most "store" brands.

    I agree that it is a huge step up from Dog Chow!
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    It's not especially inexpensive. . .if someone has access to a feed store they could certainly find something better that costs less. But if someone is stuck with Wal-Mart as the only shopping option, yes, that would probably be the best food available.
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    I caved and bought Purina One Beyond a couple of weeks ago. I'm not thrilled with a few of the ingredients, but I had to try something different to get Sasha to eat. We have tried many of the premium foods, and she has never eaten any of them well. She actually seems to like this food. She doesn't always eat every meal (she frequently skips meals and has since she was a puppy), but she eats this so much better than anything else we have tried. I really would like to buy something better, but she just won't eat it.

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    I bought it for my cats once as I was out of food, and the feed store was not open. In those circumstances, I would probably get a small bag for the dogs to tide them over if I had to. It is not my first choice, and a little pricey, but all in all, the best that Walmart has to offer.
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    This food is awesome! And the soy is so far down that it's not going make much of a difference. I plan on feeding this for awhile, I've never seen Hallie do so well and we've fed a constant rotation diet where she never eats the same food twice. She has a lot of energy on this food, it's not pricey unless you want to buy the small bags. It's about $22 for the 15lb bag here. I don't think that's bad at all. Hallie gives beyond 2 paws up!
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    Some of the "better" Wal Marts are carrying Three Dog Bakery baked kibble as well as Newman's Own. I'd feed both of THEM before Beyond. With that said, Beyond is LIGHT YEARS better than the rest of their product line and often times will be the best your Wal-Mart has to offer. Additionally, there are $2 coupons all over the place for the small bags if you're unsure your dog will consume.....
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    Re: Purina One Beyond

    For Purina, it's a step up. I just can't get past soybeans in meal form as ingredient #5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LazyGRanch713 View Post
    For Purina, it's a step up. I just can't get past soybeans in meal form as ingredient #5.
    Yeah, cats, especially, can have issues with soy (I would rather see corn in a cat food than soy). Purina actually has a halfway decent cat food called Purina Cat Chow Naturals that I consider to be better than Purina ONE or Beyond, but unfortunately they don't have a dog version of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hallie View Post
    it's not pricey unless you want to buy the small bags. It's about $22 for the 15lb bag here. I don't think that's bad at all.
    LOL. . .because I can get a 35-pound bag of Chicken Soup for $32.50, I consider anything over a dollar a pound to be "not inexpensive". But I suppose that depends on where you live and all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willowy View Post

    LOL. . .because I can get a 35-pound bag of Chicken Soup for $32.50, I consider anything over a dollar a pound to be "not inexpensive". But I suppose that depends on where you live and all that.
    I might be a bit biased, it takes Hallie 2 weeks to get through a 4lb bag so $7 for 3.5lbs seems cheap to me when it's not to people with big chow hounds.
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    Re: Purina One Beyond

    Cat Chow Naturals first six ingredients. Yikes! Chicken meal, corn gluten meal, soybean meal, brewers rice, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), corn meal.

    Beyond Cat formula: Chicken, chicken meal, whole brown rice, soybean meal, whole barley, whole oat meal.

    Neither food blows my skirt up, but I'm picking Beyond if I have to choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missie2007 View Post
    Cat Chow Naturals first six ingredients. Yikes! Chicken meal, corn gluten meal, soybean meal, brewers rice, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), corn meal.

    Beyond Cat formula: Chicken, chicken meal, whole brown rice, soybean meal, whole barley, whole oat meal.

    Neither food blows my skirt up, but I'm picking Beyond if I have to choose.
    Oh, huh, I didn't know Naturals had soy. . .I'll have to look at that.

    I know I once figured Naturals to be better than regular Purina ONE (because the first ingredient in Naturals is Chicken meal), but you're right, I guess Beyond is better.
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    Re: Purina One Beyond

    In terms of it being inexpensive, in comparison to Blue ($28 for 15 pounds), Wellness ($29 for 15 pounds), TOTW and the like, it isn't too bad. I know it isn't the cheapest you can get, but, if grocery stores are your option, this may be your best bet.

    Hallie--glad it is working for you. I just think it is nice to see that big dog food companies are trying to make chanegs for the better--even if they aren't 100% there yet, they are trying. I can only hope that other companies follow.
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    I feed a brand called exclusive because I live about an hr from the nearest PETsMART & am not readily accessible to the usual suspects when everyone thinks of the good brands. I think the exclusive is all right, Izze seems to do well on it, pup does to but is going thru a stubborn streak when it comes to eating right now but she was eating it previously but since Izze does so well on it I dint want to change anything.

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    I considered this food for my dog. But the chicken meal was what sent me away (I think it is ingredient 2 or 3)

    I know I am preaching to the choir, but chicken meal is essentially garbage:

    If the meat is labeled as a “meal”on the side of the package (for example, “chicken meal”) a dog owner should be aware that this is not the kind of chicken that he would sit down to eat at the dinner table. Chicken meal is basically the remains of a chicken that has been parted out. The parts of the chicken that we are familiar with (the breast and the leg meat) tend to be mostly missing. What is left is a some chicken meat and skin. A lot of skin actually. The most disturbing part of a chicken meal though has to do with a significant portion of what else is thrown into the vat and cooked before it becomes the high-protein pellets known as chicken meal.


    -From an article I read on the subject.


    I steer away from such foods for my dog. But then again, I am kind of a purist. If you look back on how we fed our dogs just a hundred years ago, this Purina is a total godsend!
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    @ Amstaffbruiser: I think what you are referring to is chicken "by-product." Chicken meal is more desirable than chicken because it is only the meat content with out all of the water content. By-product of any kind is not desirable for the reasons you mentioned above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amynrichie View Post
    @ Amstaffbruiser: I think what you are referring to is chicken "by-product." Chicken meal is more desirable than chicken because it is only the meat content with out all of the water content. By-product of any kind is not desirable for the reasons you mentioned above.
    No, I hate to disagree with you, but I am talking about chicken meal. Chicken meal can contain 4D animals (diseased, dead, dying or disabled). Chicken by-product is worse. Chicken meal is horrible stuff though... NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.

    Here is the wikipedia link for you:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_meal

    I know wikipedia isn't the most reliable of sources, but it is all I can get my hands on right now. If you still doubt me, I will dig up the FDA link for you. My computer is running all sorts of slow right now or I would enclose it right now.

    according to the Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO), is the dry rendered product from a combination of clean chicken flesh and skin with or without accompanying bone, derived from whole carcasses of chicken, exclusive of feathers, heads, feet and entrails.[1] A meal in general is "an ingredient which has been ground or otherwise reduced in particle size."[2] Chicken meal is ground up chicken meat that has been carefully dried to a moisture level of 10%. The protein content is 65% and the fat level is 12%. Regular chicken contains about 70% water with 18% protein and 5% fat. To create chicken meal, ingredients are placed into large vats and cooked. [3] This rendering process not only separates fat and removes water to create a concentrated protein product, it also kills bacteria, viruses, parasites and other organisms. Because meat can be rid of infectious agents through the rendering process, “4D” animals (dead, dying, diseased or disabled) are allowable chicken meal ingredients. While not always present, the possible inclusion of these ingredients makes chicken meal always considered unfit for human consumption.[4]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amstaffbruiser View Post
    No, I hate to disagree with you, but I am talking about chicken meal. Chicken meal can contain 4D animals (diseased, dead, dying or disabled). Chicken by-product is worse. Chicken meal is horrible stuff though... NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.

    Here is the wikipedia link for you:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_meal



    I know wikipedia isn't the most reliable of sources, but it is all I can get my hands on right now. If you still doubt me, I will dig up the FDA link for you. My computer is running all sorts of slow right now or I would enclose it right now.

    according to the Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO), is the dry rendered product from a combination of clean chicken flesh and skin with or without accompanying bone, derived from whole carcasses of chicken, exclusive of feathers, heads, feet and entrails.[1] A meal in general is "an ingredient which has been ground or otherwise reduced in particle size."[2] Chicken meal is ground up chicken meat that has been carefully dried to a moisture level of 10%. The protein content is 65% and the fat level is 12%. Regular chicken contains about 70% water with 18% protein and 5% fat. To create chicken meal, ingredients are placed into large vats and cooked. [3] This rendering process not only separates fat and removes water to create a concentrated protein product, it also kills bacteria, viruses, parasites and other organisms. Because meat can be rid of infectious agents through the rendering process, 4D animals (dead, dying, diseased or disabled) are allowable chicken meal ingredients. While not always present, the possible inclusion of these ingredients makes chicken meal always considered unfit for human consumption.[4]
    So I guess you're feeding your dog a raw diet? Because most kibbles contain a meat meal ingredient somewhere. It is ground up chicken meat, dogs need that. Dogs don't care if its a sick chicken they'll still eat it. I have no problem with my dog eating meat from a disabled animal. Sorry but dogs ARE dogs, they're not people. This meat is cooked at temperatures high enough to removed any bacteria and pathogens. So what are you worried about exactly? Roadkill deer is just as healthy as a healthy butchered one. Humans aren't meant to eat dog food, this is why dog food is not fit for human consumption. I don't usually see a human gnawing on a 3 day old carcass for fun, rolling in poop, or eating poop. Dogs are meant to eat things considered disgusting by most human standards. Chicken meal is a good ingredient. I, in fact, look for a meat meal in any dog food. Without it the meat content of the food can be so minute you might as well be feeding vegetarian food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallie View Post
    So I guess you're feeding your dog a raw diet? Because most kibbles contain a meat meal ingredient somewhere. It is ground up chicken meat, dogs need that. Dogs don't care if its a sick chicken they'll still eat it. I have no problem with my dog eating meat from a disabled animal. Sorry but dogs ARE dogs, they're not people. This meat is cooked at temperatures high enough to removed any bacteria and pathogens. So what are you worried about exactly? Roadkill deer is just as healthy as a healthy butchered one. Humans aren't meant to eat dog food, this is why dog food is not fit for human consumption. I don't usually see a human gnawing on a 3 day old carcass for fun, rolling in poop, or eating poop. Dogs are meant to eat things considered disgusting by most human standards. Chicken meal is a good ingredient. I, in fact, look for a meat meal in any dog food. Without it the meat content of the food can be so minute you might as well be feeding vegetarian food.
    Ditto ditto ditto....I mean, if you don't have a meat meal, what would you want to feed? Whole meats are gonna be farther down the ingredient list once you take the water content out, so you'd be feeding a food mainly with grains or potatoes if there was no meal, and obviously you don't want any sort of meat by-product meal....

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