Old Yeller anyone? - the dog food

[momtoanangel74]

Anyone else having problems with Old Yeller? As I am sure most of you have read our oldest Doberman died almost a week ago after she was in complete renal failure. She was eating Old Yeller and canned Pet Pride. I have heard from a few others in the same situation with Old Yeller, but I would like to hear from everyone who used it.

I am trying to contact the FDA, still haven't received a call back as of yet. I will keep calling till I get through. I have the blood results back from the lab, which shows renal failure.

The Old Yeller food will never make it to the recall list if people don't speak up and report it.

[Ginny01OT]

I am sooo sooo sorry you and your pet are going through this. I think you had written a thread a few weeks ago. I think you said (or someone did) that Ole Yeller is a Disney brand. Is it a dry kibble or wet food?

[momtoanangel74]

The Old Yeller is marketed to say Disney makes it, but the distributor won't tell me who manufacturered it. It is a sole proprietor which means their info will be kept private and only the distributor will be known.

The OY is a dry kibble. We are not throwing out any of the food, we are going to keep it until we get a hold of the FDA. I want to give them some for testing if needed.

[Ginny01OT]

From what I understand there was no dry food recalled by the FDS-for the exception of one Hill's prescription m/d diet for cats. Good luck and keep us posted.

[momtoanangel74]

Actually one week ago yesterday a lot of dry dog foods were added to the recall list because of a chemical found in plastic had tainted the wheat gluten. And then more were added because of salmonella in foods. But the dry foods were added a week ago, check cnn.com for information on it. I have been hearing from a lot of people in Michigan who are effected by this. Michigan and one other state have the highest death tolls right now from both canned and dry foods.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...1?feedType=RSS

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/30/pet...ml?eref=rss_us

http://www.cnn.com/petfoodrecall

http://www.ktvu.com/family/11469554/detail.html

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health...age=1&GMA=true

http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/p...food/86135.htm

These are just a few of the headlines- the FDA is horrible about taking reports and putting information out. More and more people are going to continue to loose their pets until these companies do a recall. The FDA isn't doing enough to stop this, and they are not doing enough to get the information out there.

[Ginny01OT]

[QUOTE=momtoanangel74;55872]Actually one week ago yesterday a lot of dry dog foods were added to the recall list because of a chemical found in plastic had tainted the wheat gluten. And then more were added because of salmonella in foods. But the dry foods were added a week ago, check cnn.com for information on it. I have been hearing from a lot of people in Michigan who are effected by this. Michigan and one other state have the highest death tolls right now from both canned and dry foods.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...1?feedType=RSS

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/30/pet...ml?eref=rss_us

http://www.cnn.com/petfoodrecall

I checked CNN and the only dry food that was recalled was the Hill's prescription MD formula for cats.

The Ole Roy and Dingo treats that were recalled due to salmonella was a different issue which did not involve dry kibble either. Regardless, it is a sad sad situation.

[HGM]

I have been using it for over a year, and Lost my number one Coondog a couple months ago, didn't or couldn't figure out what happen to him, never been sick in his life, 8 years old, I have been raising Coonhounds for over 20 years, the only one that died and I couldn't figure out what was wrong with him. Now I know it had to have been the Old Yeller Dog Food. I just took 10 empty bags to Kroger and they refunded my money. But now the question is? What about My Dog?????? He was the best pleasure hunting dog I ever owned....???

[Mdawn]

Wasn't it just recalled, along with Kroger's Pet Pride brand? I think my boyfriend just told me that the other day. Didn't think too much about it as I don't feed my dogs either of those brands.

[l2andom]

Yes, there was an article on a few different websites like cnn and yahoo that had something a few days ago dealing with a Krogers brand pet food recall. Maybe I should have linked it, I guess I figured most people read the news online daily.

The recall involves certain bags of Pet Pride Cat Food, Pet Pride Kitten Food, Old Yeller Chunk Dog Food, Kroger Value Cat Food and Kroger Value Chunk Food, the company said Saturday

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/19/pet...all/index.html



HGM, I'm sorry for your loss. You should attempt to make contact with the store manager to see if they will do anything about your loss. I don't think they will, but making contact would be a start.

[Shaina]

Wasn't it just recalled, along with Kroger's Pet Pride brand? I think my boyfriend just told me that the other day. Didn't think too much about it as I don't feed my dogs either of those brands.

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Kroger Recalls Pet Foods

Kroger recalls Pet Pride, Old Yeller, Value Chunk pet foods for aflatoxin

[HGM]

I have been using it for over a year, and Lost my number one Coondog about 5 or 6 weeks ago, didn't or couldn't figure out what happen to him, never been sick in his life, 8 years old, I have been raising Coonhounds for over 20 years, the only one that died and I couldn't figure out what was wrong with him. Now I know it had to have been the Old Yeller Dog Food. I just took 10 empty bags to Kroger and they refunded my money. But now the question is? What about My Dog?????? He was the best pleasure hunting dog I ever owned....???

[redhed787]

Hi everyone,

I am new to these forums, but was directed here after reading up on the recall for the dog food Old Yeller Chunk Dog Food...

I had a beautiful and beloved puppy named Koga that passed away last year unexpectedly. He had been very healthy prior to his death, then suddenly developed extreme symptoms and died a horrible death on Thanksgiving Day 2009..

The only thing I ever fed him, unfortunately, was this dog food.. practically his whole life (since he was able to eat dry dog food, anyway..)

He was only about 6-7 months old.. I had developed such a strong bond with him and his sister as my boyfriend and I had helped to rescue his litter from a neglectful owner and raised them since they were tiny babies (we even bottle fed them..) His symptoms went from a little vomiting to loss of balance, inability to whine or make vocal noises, drooling, loss of muscle control, dilated pupils, swollen abdomen, loss of bowel control, twitching/spasms of the ears and mouth, white gums, and many, many more in such a short amount of time.. Within 24 short hours, he was put down after much pain and suffering..

My boyfriend and I didn't have a lot of money to run diagnostic tests, but we were able to pinch and pull $300 to run blood tests at an emergency vet before he died in which they told us he had a very high white blood cell count, as if his body was fighting off a pathogen of some sort, and had severe liver damage and ultimately liver failure.. he also had neurological damage.. We were told to put him out of his misery because even if we found a way to pay the $1,000+ to try to run further diagnostics and slow the liver failure, his chances of survival were extremely slim and would probably still die... So he was euthanized.. After scraping what we could to find out his chances of survival, the vet told us it would be an additional fee to properly rid of his body, which we couldn't even afford.. but they were nice enough to waive it for just $10.. it was such a heart wrenching experience, I couldn't even make it to work the next day due to excessive grieving..

Today I read the article in my local newspaper about the recall of this food we had fed him and his sister all their lives. We purchased it from the local Kroger here.. I then read the toxin found in this food is Aflatoxin, a fungal carcinogen, which causes acute liver failure and many of the symptoms my dog had right before his death...

It pains me so much that I fed my dogs this food to save a little money and may have been unintentionally poisoning them, resulting in the loss of my beloved Koga I can't stop crying about this... I can't believe these kind of horrendous acts are still allowed in our country... It just breaks me down so much.

I will be taking Koga's surviving sister to the vet ASAP to test for any liver damage, etc. because apparently just because she has survived after eating this poison, it doesn't mean she won't develop severe symptoms down the road... I don't know what I would do if I lost her too.... :'(


Here are some pictures:

























This one was shortly before he died..







Please, anyone who reads this, if you love your pets, it's worth the extra money to ensure they are healthy and fed well. Taking the cheaper route can lead to devastating consequences, as in my case.. and if you cannot afford it, as hard as it may be to give up your beloved pet to a home that can care for it, taking this path is much less painful than watching them suffer and die right before your eyes, with no ability to save them.....

God Bless,
Amber

[puritansoul]

I used to feed my dogs Old Yeller brand dry food. One day, while "mucking" the back yard, I noticed termites in their feces. That's right--TERMITES. Not long after, my 12 year old German Shepard developed hemorrhagic gastroenteritis and had to be put down. What made it even worse was that I was going thru a divorce at the time--and my former stepdaughter never got a chance to say "goodbye" to the dog she'd known and loved all her life. My other dogs also developed less-serious stomach ailments, and only recovered after I changed to plain Purina Dog Chow.

PLEASE discourage anyone you know from feeding their dogs Old Yeller food. The extra $5 or so per bag you'll spend on quality dog food is immeasurable when compared to your dog's life.

[Willowy]

I know this thread is old, but every time someone drags it up I think of this subject--

Do people REALLY expect their dogs to live long healthy lives on store brand food? I guess I've never seen it that way. . .the people I know who feed their pets store brand don't really care if the pets live or die. They just buy whatever's cheapest so they don't get arrested for not feeding their pets at all. I do feel sorry for the people who did care about their pets but I still don't see how anyone can think that store brand food is even halfway decent. They can't even blame slick marketing (like with Beneful)--the extent of store brand's marketing seems to be "look, this food is really cheap and your pet won't starve". They don't make any claims to be the best, just the cheapest.

[Sighthounds4me]

I know this thread is old, but every time someone drags it up I think of this subject--

Do people REALLY expect their dogs to live long healthy lives on store brand food? I guess I've never seen it that way. . .the people I know who feed their pets store brand don't really care if the pets live or die. They just buy whatever's cheapest so they don't get arrested for not feeding their pets at all. I do feel sorry for the people who did care about their pets but I still don't see how anyone can think that store brand food is even halfway decent. They can't even blame slick marketing (like with Beneful)--the extent of store brand's marketing seems to be "look, this food is really cheap and your pet won't starve". They don't make any claims to be the best, just the cheapest.

I see your point. But you are assuming people think this way, or know there actually is a difference in quality of food. When I was growing up, Purina was the end-all-be-all, and that's what we fed. These days, I wouldn't feed Purina to a rat!

The problem is, so many people think that if a food is AAFCO certified, it's good. They don't realize there is a difference in quality, and that AAFCO certification means nothing. And that the better quality the food, the better the results.

The problem is education, just like so many other things in life. There is a sore lack of education, and vets, who should be able to advise their clients are poorly educated in nutrition, as well. So even asking the average vet is useless.

For more info on how to properly feed your dog, see this link: http://www.bornfreeusa.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1 There are more links out there, but this is the best one I have bookmarked!

[puritansoul]

I've always had better luck with Purina foods than with any of those "special diet" foods on the market. Maybe I've just been lucky...but an average lifespan of 15+ years tends to say something. I will say, however, that I watch my dogs VERY closely...much moreso than I used to...for any signs of digestive issues.

[kafkabeetle]

I've always had better luck with Purina foods than with any of those "special diet" foods on the market. Maybe I've just been lucky...but an average lifespan of 15+ years tends to say something. I will say, however, that I watch my dogs VERY closely...much moreso than I used to...for any signs of digestive issues.

I guess I just don't think lifespan is the only thing that should be considered. For instance, if a dog lives 16 years but has chronic dry skin, itchiness, bad teeth, etc throughout that 16 years, what kind of quality of life is that? Maybe your dogs were the exception to the rule, but Sydney had loosish stools and problems with itchiness and a dull coat when she was on Purina One. On Taste of the Wild she just gleams! But anyway, if I absolutely had to feed a grocery store brand (which I hope I never will) I would probably go with Purina One Beyond, as opposed to Old Yeller or 'Ol Roy or some generic.

[TStafford]

I see your point. But you are assuming people think this way, or know there actually is a difference in quality of food. When I was growing up, Purina was the end-all-be-all, and that's what we fed. These days, I wouldn't feed Purina to a rat!

The problem is, so many people think that if a food is AAFCO certified, it's good. They don't realize there is a difference in quality, and that AAFCO certification means nothing. And that the better quality the food, the better the results.

The problem is education, just like so many other things in life. There is a sore lack of education, and vets, who should be able to advise their clients are poorly educated in nutrition, as well. So even asking the average vet is useless.

For more info on how to properly feed your dog, see this link: http://www.bornfreeusa.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1 There are more links out there, but this is the best one I have bookmarked!

From what I have seen a lot of people don't really care or beleive that the better foods really are any better. Its kind of the..."well if it wasn't a good food they wouldn't say that it is" type thing. I have told my mom over and over that Iams is crap food and she should get her dogs (like her 46 lb 13 year old beagle) on something better. She always says "well I can't afford that" even though she makes way more than we do. I have even told her about how big of difference there was in Porter's coat, weight, and over all health when we stopped using Iams. She could careless. Iams is cheap and she doesn't have to go out of her way to buy it. Then there are people like my sister that pick quality baised on price. She feeds her cat some brand of food that is about same as Iams as far as ingredients go, but cost more than Blue Buffalo. Of course this all comes back to lack of education and unwillingness to learn on the owners part.

Hack I know some that is feeding their dog cereal and wonders why he has such awful allergies. This person has said to me when I asked if they will feed their next dog kibble "Uhhh I don't know, I just can't imagen making them eat such boring, awful food. They are so happy with what I feed them" and when I said soemthing feeding dogs crap food they said "well are they happy? That's all that matters". I stand by my comment a long time ago that people "love their dogs to death".

[kafkabeetle]

Hack I know some that is feeding their dog cereal and wonders why he has such awful allergies. This person has said to me when I asked if they will feed their next dog kibble "Uhhh I don't know, I just can't imagen making them eat such boring, awful food. They are so happy with what I feed them" and when I said soemthing feeding dogs crap food they said "well are they happy? That's all that matters". I stand by my comment a long time ago that people "love their dogs to death".

Like...breakfast cereal????

I'd be shocked if that dog doesn't develop diabetes. And I certainly hope he feeds at least some meaty table scraps because cereal has nowhere near the protein a dog needs. So sad.

[Willowy]

I won't say that Purina will kill your pets. . .they do a lot of research and their foods do what they say they will. You can do better than Purina but it's not the worst out there. Store brand generic foods make no claims. Their one and only selling point is that they're cheap. Iams claims to be the best, so I don't blame anyone who believes that before they've done their research. If they feed Iams or Purina, I at least know they value their pet to some extent. But going through the store and picking a food on no other basis other than it's the absolutely cheapest food available. . .well. I don't see how it can be said that that person values their pets.