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    Beneful?

    I've heard recently that Beneful may not be the best food for my Border Collie, Max. Is this true? Can anyone recommend a more nutritious food that is a reasonable price? Thanks a lot!!

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    Re: Beneful?

    The best thing to do is go to www.dogfoodanalysis.com. I would say that Beneful is a very poor quality food. On this website it is only rated a 1 star. A grain free diet seems to be a more healthy way to go. I am currently using Orijin 6 fish with my dog.

    Other grain free foods include:
    Orijin
    Wellness Core
    Innova
    Acana

    Among others...

    Acana also makes a dog food with grain... look for the grain free bags. (If you were interested in that food)
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    Re: Beneful?

    In my honest opinion, Beneful is a truly crappy food. It's full of fillers like corn and wheat gluten and has zero true meat protein. Don't take my word for it though, do your own research. Some sites that helped me out a lot in choosing a dog food were www.dogfoodanalysis.com and www.dogaware.com. These forums also have a wealth of information on various brands of dog food. I could list a ton of foods that I believe to be of high quality but you still wouldn't know why I(or anyone else for that matter)recommended these foods over Beneful. Once you learn what to look for in the ingredient list you'll be on the right track.
    I'm fairly certain this thread will get many, many more posts so you shouldn't be short on information and opinions.

    Also, it might help people's responses if we knew what you consider to be "reasonably priced".

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    My main gripe with Beneful is that it's almost the same formula as regular Dog Chow, but with extra food coloring (which isn't good for dogs anyway), and they charge twice as much for it. You can get a much better food for the price you're paying for Beneful, but if you want to stick with foods of similar quality, go with Dog Chow and save your $$$$$.
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    Taste of the wild is what we feed our border collie rescues its a 6 star quality grain free dog food probably cheaper than Beneful . We buy it at the tractor supply for 42 dollars a large bag .

    If that is still a bit pricey try Diamond Naturals 3 star dog food at around 18 dollars for a large bag . A lot of people feed DN and their dogs do good on it .

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    Re: Beneful?

    It is all a marketing thing, pushing your buttons to get deeper into your wallet. All the foods no matter what ingredients are have at least the minimum of each nutrient. There is in fact no scientific basis to the ratings at dogfoodanalysis and other such sites. If your dog is doing well on Beneful, stick to it. If not, talk to your vet.

    No way can you count on the more expensive foods having better nutrition. If you want to give your dog just as good of nutrition and save money, go with Purina 1 or Iams.

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    Re: Beneful?

    Quote Originally Posted by Labsnothers View Post
    All the foods no matter what ingredients are have at least the minimum of each nutrient. If your dog is doing well on Beneful, stick to it. If not, talk to your vet.
    I think this goes back to the "cost effective institution" topic. Some people would like to feed their dogs better than the equivalent of prison food.

    And how would someone know if their dog is "doing well" on a certain food if it's the only one they've ever fed? They have nothing to compare it to. If someone wants to try other brands let them. I'm confident that if they didn't see the results they were looking for they'd go right back to what was working "so well" before.

    Don't go to the vet looking for dog food information they're just going to recommend Pro Plan or Science Di...oh wait that was his point .

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    I dont think its about the more expensive food having more nutrition...there are lots of expensive foods out there with crap in the ingredients. I feed my dog raw food but I stood in the pet store just yesterday reading the ingredient lists on lots of catfood and just common sense told me what one/s to choose. I dont know how you compare the ingredient list of a good quality food and a crap food and say they are equivalent? To me its like feeding my kids hamburger helper and a vitamin and calling a nutritous meal.
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    Re: Beneful?

    Ingredients on the bag are listed from most prevalent to least.

    Beneful's Original Dog Formula top ten:
    Ground Yellow Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Whole Wheat Flour, Animal Fat Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols (Form of Vitamin E), Rice Flour, Beef, Soy Flour, Sugar, Sorbitol,
    Their number one ingredient is ground corn. Their main source of meat is "chicken by-product meal". By-product meal would be rendered feet, beaks, stomach ruminants, and other left over bits from processing the actual chicken. Oh hey look, then there's some more corn. Just for fun, the preservatives even start before the end of the top ten. Sorbitol is a preservative.

    If Beneful is the highest price point you're comfortable with, you'd be better served with Purina, Iams, Eukanuba, or Science Diet. Beneful is probably one of the worst ripoffs in the dog food industry in my opinion. They basically spray pretty colors and heavy preservatives on some of the crappiest food and sell it at a grossly inflated price point.

    Barring any contaminants or recall issues, your dog will survive on any commercial food you feed him. It's up to you to decide whether the extra expense (and possibly travel time, depending on your local stores) is worth it for higher/better meat content, fewer preservatives and little or no grains. I drive an extra twenty minutes to a specialty shop to get my dog's Evo and I pay $34 for a 13.2lb bag, just to give you an idea. Reading the ingredients, and knowing that dogs are carnivores, it just makes sense to me to feed them as much meat, and as little grain (in this case none), as possible within the constraints of a dry kibble. Ideally I'd like to feed raw, but I've chosen kibble for convenience. Make the decision you are comfortable with on all fronts, from quality to cost to convenience.

    We all make the food decision that works the best for us. Up until recently my cats were eating Purina Cat Chow. I switched to it from Natural Balance (and sometimes Innova) several years ago when the store I was buying them at closed. Then we went through some financial issues and Purina just made more sense when we were barely managing to put food on our own table. It certainly made more sense than throwing myself into such a financial mess trying to buy more expensive food that I ended up having to rehome them.

    Now they're eating Natural Balance LID Pea and Salmon. My 8 year old has developed a stomach issue as of late, which prompted the switch to a limited ingredient food, and I'm still considering switching them to something else if CeCe will tolerate it. Having switched them back and forth, I've been able to see the difference between the two with my own eyes. Of course, it's all anecdotal, but on Natural Balance my cats shed less and poop less, and CeCe's recent vomiting has ceased since switching. I'm considering switching again to Wellness or one of the other limited ingredient foods to see how they do. I free feed my cats, so if one eats a limited ingredient diet, they all have to.

    I find it more than amusing that labsnothers continues to talk about how it's all a marketing thing. I want you to think really hard about the last time you saw a commercial or print advertisement for Evo or Orijen. Now compare that to the last time you saw a commercial or print advertisement for Beneful or Purina. Really now, who's doing all the marketing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayanla View Post
    I want you to think really hard about the last time you saw a commercial or print advertisement for Evo or Orijen. Now compare that to the last time you saw a commercial or print advertisement for Beneful or Purina. Really now, who's doing all the marketing?
    Excellent point! It's remarkable, when you think about it, that the higher quality food companies are able to keep manufacturing their products. I can't believe the first 10 ingredients in Beneful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Labsnothers View Post
    It is all a marketing thing, pushing your buttons to get deeper into your wallet. All the foods no matter what ingredients are have at least the minimum of each nutrient. There is in fact no scientific basis to the ratings at dogfoodanalysis and other such sites. If your dog is doing well on Beneful, stick to it. If not, talk to your vet.

    No way can you count on the more expensive foods having better nutrition. If you want to give your dog just as good of nutrition and save money, go with Purina 1 or Iams.
    You still don't get it.

    We are only reading your posts in the "Food forum" for not much more than comic relief at this point. You have >0 credibility at this point.

    Way to recommend Benefil !! I'm so proud of you.

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    Re: Beneful?

    when we got brom the people were feeding him the puppy beneful formula what puppy needs corn, by-products, and SUGAR?? blah! we switched him from it as soon as we could. i mentioned to my vet that he was eating beneful and my vet told me to get him off it as soon as i could. also, my vet DIDN'T suggest sd or any other crappy over-priced foods!

    if you want to feed something different then i would suggest you do your own research because you can ask 25 different people what you should feed your dog and you will get 25 different foods all with anecdotal evidence to back it up. the only way you will know what to feed your dog is through your own research and finding the food that YOUR dog does best on. there is no one food that is THE BEST for every dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioreks_mom View Post
    the only way you will know what to feed your dog is through your own research and finding the food that YOUR dog does best on. there is no one food that is THE BEST for every dog.
    The bigger issue is that some people have no idea what "best" is. This is the difficult part that takes time and patients.

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    The marketing stratagy for Beneful is phenomenal. Think about what they show. Dad playing with his cute little scruffy dog. All the colors that we like to see in our foods. Plus the name Beneful like it really benefits your dog's health. Names like Healthy Radiance, Playful Life, Healthy Harvest, etc what great marketing for poor quality food. Whenever a overweight dog comes into the clinic chances on he/she is eating Beneful, Kibbles and Bits or O'Roy. Can't tell you how many dogs with allergies are on these foods. Change to a better quality food and sometimes the allergies recede.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agility collie mom View Post
    The marketing stratagy for Beneful is phenomenal. Think about what they show. Dad playing with his cute little scruffy dog. All the colors that we like to see in our foods. Plus the name Beneful like it really benefits your dog's health. Names like Healthy Radiance, Playful Life, Healthy Harvest, etc what great marketing for poor quality food. Whenever a overweight dog comes into the clinic chances on he/she is eating Beneful, Kibbles and Bits or O'Roy. Can't tell you how many dogs with allergies are on these foods. Change to a better quality food and sometimes the allergies recede.
    But these did pass the stringent AAFCO quality standards right? Therefore it MUST be a well balanced "all your dog will ever need" food!!


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    The BEST is whatever your dog does good on - PERIOD. I would stick to a Premium class food if possible but if your dog has diarrhea on everything except Purina then I think that might be what you should stick to (I dont see that ever happening though). I have nothing against the grocery store brands but would NEVER feed by dog anything with corn or by products in them. If you are Whoppers and Big Macs all day everyday how healthy would you be? Give your dog the best food - in your opinion - that you can afford. You have to read read and read and make your own opinion while taking everyone elses opinion and manufacturers information with a grain of salt. Try to equate the quality of your dogs food with human food and then as yourself, "would I eat something like that?" If you say no then I would get a different food.

    Also, when I tell people I feed TOTW or EVO most people usually say they never heard of it. I tell them to do a quick internet search and that the higher quality dog foods are USUALLY ones that you probably never heard of because they don't pour money in to putting commercials on your TV.

    Keep in mind that I tend to be obsessed when I get on a topic such as dog food....ill research for days and days and days or weeks and weeks to make my self comfortable and educated to make a final decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by croll326 View Post
    I have nothing against the grocery store brands but would NEVER feed by dog anything with corn or by products in them. If you are Whoppers and Big Macs all day everyday how healthy would you be? Give your dog the best food - in your opinion - that you can afford. You have to read read and read and make your own opinion while taking everyone elses opinion and manufacturers information with a grain of salt.
    Good points.. The sad part is lots of "people" as in "humans" couldn't care less about what THEY eat or spend the time to make a more informed, healthier decision. I wonder, if they wonder, why their fat while they eat that cheeseburger???

    Dogs unfortunately can't make these choices, so it's our responsibility to do the best we can for them. I think it's easier to sleep at night when you've done at least that.

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    Tell me about it. Half of this country is obese so why would those people care about what they are feeding their dogs if they don't care what they eat and haven't seen their feet since 1982?

    I want to vomit when I see a person walking out of a grocery store with the biggest bag of dog food they could possibly find. I just say prayer for their dog because I know they don't deserve to eat that junk but they are at the mercy of their owners pea sized brain.

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    Re: Beneful?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffr03 View Post
    I've heard recently that Beneful may not be the best food for my Border Collie, Max. Is this true? Can anyone recommend a more nutritious food that is a reasonable price? Thanks a lot!!
    the one thing about beneful that people dont know is that it has 7 grams of sugar in it which is really bad for your dog. for a border collie i would go with something like evo or innova

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    Quote Originally Posted by croll326 View Post
    Tell me about it. Half of this country is obese so why would those people care about what they are feeding their dogs if they don't care what they eat and haven't seen their feet since 1982?

    I want to vomit when I see a person walking out of a grocery store with the biggest bag of dog food they could possibly find. I just say prayer for their dog because I know they don't deserve to eat that junk but they are at the mercy of their owners pea sized brain.
    To be fair. I eat like crap. But I wouldn't force my dog to eat this way :P

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