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    Question Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet

    This week 2 of my dogs have suddenly come up lame in the foreleg and I'm 90% certain it happened AFTER eating. We've recently transitioned to RAW and am feeding chicken. Has anyone else encountered this? (the both came up lame within the week) 1 tonight and 1 on Tues.

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    Re: Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet

    They only lameness I could attribute to a raw diet would be muscle cramps from in improperly balanced diet - low on potassium and/or calcium and/or magnesium. Possibly dehydration as well.

    What are you feeding as a raw diet?

    I'll be interested to read any other insights....
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    Re: Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet They eat chicken

    Chicken. usually quarters but the last 2 days it's been neck back foot and giblets
    Pumpkin and yoghurt on top with the occasional raw egg thrown on top too.

    Wednesday everybody got cooked boneless chicken with potatoes, carrots, little bit of garlic and celery

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    Re: Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrissyBz View Post
    This week 2 of my dogs have suddenly come up lame in the foreleg and I'm 90% certain it happened AFTER eating. We've recently transitioned to RAW and am feeding chicken. Has anyone else encountered this? (the both came up lame within the week) 1 tonight and 1 on Tues.
    How much organ meat are you giving??? They need organ meat for muscle. Second- take your dog to the vet- independant of the diet change- you can have another problem.. Also what breed? Some breeds are prone to myophothy..

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    Re: Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet

    Is your source for meat in Belize reputable as far as being clean, healthy meat? Also, aren't your dogs being treated for something like erlichiosis?
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    Re: Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet

    My thoughts were the same as Britedays, be sure your dogs didn't obtain some sort of bacteria from contaminated meat. Feeding raw to a dog is a science and needs to be done properly in order to be effective. As others said, calcium to phosphorous ratio, organ meats and even ground bone is imperative. I consider my dogs feeding a great hobby now, I enjoy preparing his meals and researching about raw food diets, etc. Good luck

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    Re: Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet

    Ok, Well I think they may have coincidentally injured themselves on the same foot. 3 days apart. Perhaps over extension of a ligament or muscle.

    Pepper(1 1/2 y.o. Black Lab) seems to be improving and Cassie (4 1/2 y.o. Potlicker) is still very sore but I palpated them both and extended and contracted their legs through the full range of motion without serious expressions of pain.

    eg. no whining, simply pulling their leg out of my hand. Also when an Iguana was spotted on the Lake Bank all pain was completely forgotten. Everyone was down there in a flash. (separated by a fence, lucky iguana)

    Just in case I'm taking Pepper & Cassie to the vet on Monday along with Ginger and Sam who are due for liver & kidney function tests. (they're both 12 y.o.) and we'll get some blood tests drawn and have Jane look them all over. Sigh, More eye rolling from the receptionist. Along with me and 4 Dogs usually comes chaos.

    And try driving through a crowded post colonial city (read:narrow persnickety streets)full of bicycles and poorly parked cars and loose dogs and cats and beggars with 4 excited dogs in a minivan. Not to mention there's a hurricane heading right for us expected to hit Wednesday or Thursday so everyone's going to be in a shopping frenzy.

    As for their diets I really have been trying my best to give them a varied diet but organic is out of the question. I'd get laughed out of the country. (In the third world most people still go by the motto the more pesticides the better. Yeah! show fist raised here. Ever hear of DDT? Still in use here.)

    Yes they get organs. this is whole chicken, it comes with feet, neck, gizzard and liver inside.

    And beef which would be the protein source containing the least chemicals and or processing here has been strongly advised against as being too hard to digest by almost everyone I've talked to. Quanitywise I've been using about 1 1/2 - 3 lb.chickens per day for a collective weight of about 198 lbs. of dog. Plus raw eggs and pumpkin, yoghurt. Coconut Oil once a week, Olive Oil once a week. Veggies only once a week.

    Chicken here is intensively raised in houses 4-6 weeks hatch to kill (i've heard they use hormones and antibiotics) while it usually takes 5-7 years to get a cow to killing weight as nobody feeds grain. It's all grass fed.

    My only other option is returning to Pedigree or Marrying Old McDonald & his farm. Neither one is likely. Also, being a reasonably adequate reader I've spent about 20 hours in the last month poring over anything I can get my hands on, on the net and picking out the theories that seem to have a modicum of common sense. (to me)

    Thanks for the the replies it's nice to know that there's people out there who care as much about their animals as I do

    I meant too hard to digest as a FIRST protein. I'm planning on including it in the future. I'd like to do fish but I'm worried about parasites. (The tropics)

    I should add that ALL 6 dogs coats have thickened and Become softer/glossier depending on fur type.
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    Re: Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet

    I'd add some ground beef for muscle meat and fat. Leg quarters are a good staple, but try to get some variety in when you can - ours love rabbit (though it is pricey!). I wouldn't feed *just* chicken leg quarters as the raw diet...even with some organs thrown in. Too much bone, not enough meat. If we are feeding fairly meaty rmb's, our dogs get anywhere from 1/4-1/2 pound of muscle meat as well. Sometimes hamburger...usually hamburger mixed with some other kind of beef that's on sale. We can get beef hearts really cheap here and they LOVE those. Tend to be really lean muscle meat.

    I've never had a problem with a dog digesting beef - domestic dogs, being opportunistic scavenger animals - can handle a lot of different types of food and meat pretty easily. We start a dog on one protein source but pretty quickly (within a week) add a second.
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    Re: Spontaneous lameness on RAW diet

    Riley had a hard time with beef initially and I stopped it and waited until he was a little older, it became the last protein I introduced and now he is fine with it!

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