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    Is kibbles in bits bad?

    I think its probably like the Surgery cereal of dog food, but my parents insist on buying it because its cheaper then purina and say im over reacting, I swear no one loves the dog as much as me

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Well given that Purina gets an F on the food calculator and this is a cheaper food, I'd have to say itís pretty bad. Most super market brands in fact, arenít very good at all.

    Here is the food calculator if you want to try rating Kibbles 'N Bits or any other food you try:

    http://www.dogforums.com/5-dog-food-...alculator.html



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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    whoa, I thought puriana and Iams where good food...

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Nope, not at all.



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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    OMG
    I dont even think it should be legal to sell that food.
    Not one named meat ( except in meal form ) first ingredient corn... soybean meal is second....wheat flour is fourth....
    My goodness, talk about recipe for potential allergies.
    Honestly I would recommend Purina any day to someone feeding this food.

    It is indeed a VERY low quality food, with no real nutrional value in it. All it is, is a bag of fillers.

    The old saying stands firm for this food "you get what you pay for".
    If your parents are all for paying potential big bucks for vet bills for yeast infections, skin disorders ect... and ready to feed the rediculous amounts of food to your dog inorder to give your dog the look of being full... well thats whats going to end up happening here. Its unbelievable that this food can actually be sold!

    I would definately be shopping around for something else.

    ETA... check this site out...
    http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/
    Kibbles and bits are 1 star rating... as with pedigree and purina and many other brands that can be obtained at a grocery store.
    First rule of thumb... if you can buy it at a grocery store, its less than adequate for optimal nutrional value.
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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_f...cat/all/page/1

    Here's a review of Kibbles N Bits.

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Wow this is a trip, NONE of the dog foods I an get at stores (I.E. Iams, purina) are any good?

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Typically, any food sold at a super market or general grocery store isn't going to be very good. Many of the best brands can only be found online or in feed stores/pet shops.



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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    We have Petco and Petsmart here and neither sells Canidae.

    I get it at Pet Supplies Plus. They have a better selection of premium brands than either one.

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    I get my Canidae from either a local animal feed store, which carries the more high quality foods, or from the boarding place I use for my dogs. The only pet store near me where I can get Canidae is Complete Petmart, and I've noticed that they also carry a good selection of quality brands.
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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Target sells Dr Fosters and Smith and that food ranks pretty high, 4 star dry, and you can get it shipped to your door for cheap from the Dr Fosters and Smith website. They ship by dollar, purchase value not weight. You can get 4 30lb bags shipped to your door for $15 shipping . That makes a 30lb bag cost a total of about $30 which is not too much more that the cruddy foods you can get at a grocery store

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Kibbles and Bits is pretty much -the- worst food you could buy your dog, It has no nutritional value at all. I was told this by a veterinarian. In fact K&B actually rots your dogs teeth ! Its full of chemicals and preservatives. If you cant feed the really good stuff, I would use Purina (personally I dont like Eukanuba or Iams, they treat their "test" animals like crap) or maybe even Science Diet.
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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    I thought the SAME thing at first dont feel to bad, all the places near me I thought didnt sell anything better than Maxximum, but I decided ot do some research for the betterment of my dog and I found a local feed store about 15 miles away that carries AT LEAST 5 brands of dog food in the 5 and 6 star catagories at DFA. I am now feeding m beloved GSD Taste Of The Wild, and she loves it.

    Just do a little research on the manufactures website and look for a local store that sells them, then get your parents to buy it.

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    By the way, look up some food calculators and realize you feed twice or sometimes three times as much of the "junk" food as you do "good" food so even though it SEEMS more expensive, it really isn't because you feed so much less of it

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by myminpins View Post
    By the way, look up some food calculators and realize you feed twice or sometimes three times as much of the "junk" food as you do "good" food so even though it SEEMS more expensive, it really isn't because you feed so much less of it
    that's not necessarily true....i feed Purina One, have for a long time and probably won't change unless i see a drastic change in my dogs..... did, however, try Canidae for almost 5 mo w/ mine and i had to feed 2x the amount of Canidae to keep their weight on....so, my dogs went from (ruffly) 2 c a day of P.O. per dog to 4 c a day of Canidae.....so, for mine it was definitely not going to cost me the same or less, it would be considerably more.....not to mention the fact that they were pooping more on the Canidae, their coats went to Hades and their energy level dropped....i'll stay w/ P.O.

    but, on that note, i would never feed my dogs Kibbles and Bits, Pedigree, Dog Chow.....the 1st ingredient has to be meat and there can be no wheat in there....
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    If you can move up even to the 3-star range, that would be much better and your dog will be healthier. Explain it to your parents like this: KnB is like eating McDonald's and ice cream for every meal. It's bad for your health in the long term, even if it fills your belly in the short term. Ask them if they would let you eat junk food for every meal of your growing life. If they won't let you eat junk food, they shouldn't want to have the dog eating junk food. Alternatively, do you get an allowance? You could offer to share the increased cost of the more expensive food. If the bag of KnB is $20 and the bag of better food is $30, offer to kick in $10 of your allowance in order to feed the dog a better food. Do some math. Calculate how much you should feed of the cheap food. Calculate how much you should feed of the more expensive food. If you can bring to the table a chart showing your parents that they'll have to buy a bag of KnB once a week vs a bag of better food every 10 days or something like that, they may listen to you. (I know Ginger doesn't eat a lot of Wellness Core and she's putting on weight on the little bit she does eat. So, I have to cut down from what I am presently giving her, since I am apparently overfeeding.) Also, I am on Wellness's mailing list and they send out printable coupons every so often. I imagine other brands probably do too. What stores do you have near you? If you have a Costco, their Kirkland's brand is a decent food, and it's not too expensive. Pet Supplies Plus carries a lot of better brands of dog foods. Shoot, even my Petsmart is carrying Blue Buffalo, which isn't too bad. It would really be best if you could go up to a 4-star food, but that might be a really difficult sell to your parents.
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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Well, Canidae isn't a SUPERIOR food. It's pretty good (4 star rating) but definitely not in the true top foods recommended (6 star rating). If you feed one of the true top recommended foods, you will find you have to feed much less to maintain weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by tirluc View Post
    that's not necessarily true....i feed Purina One, have for a long time and probably won't change unless i see a drastic change in my dogs..... did, however, try Canidae for almost 5 mo w/ mine and i had to feed 2x the amount of Canidae to keep their weight on....so, my dogs went from (ruffly) 2 c a day of P.O. per dog to 4 c a day of Canidae.....so, for mine it was definitely not going to cost me the same or less, it would be considerably more.....not to mention the fact that they were pooping more on the Canidae, their coats went to Hades and their energy level dropped....i'll stay w/ P.O.

    but, on that note, i would never feed my dogs Kibbles and Bits, Pedigree, Dog Chow.....the 1st ingredient has to be meat and there can be no wheat in there....

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    I think even with "top shelf" dog food .....how good they do depends on each individual dog....

    I really wanted to have my guys on Wellness....I have heard so many wonderful things about it and my local petco started to carry it...but...

    after 2 bags my guys were sooooooo gassy...and there coats and skin were all dry and flaky...

    we have now switched to TOTW and have seen intimidate difference...less dry skin...95% less gas (whooo hooo)

    One thing that is true in our case is that we do feed less then we did on lower quality brands.....where my girl Isis was getting almost 4 cups a day on the "bad" food....she is now getting a bout 2.5 cups a day on TOTW.

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    Re: Is kibbles in bits bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Spirit View Post
    Typically, any food sold at a super market or general grocery store isn't going to be very good. Many of the best brands can only be found online or in feed stores/pet shops.

    Ok, even I will admit Kibbles N Bits is pretty low if not the bottom of the barrel on the totum pole of dog foods ... white sugar is just so unnecessary in a dog food, there is zero justification for it. However, I really have got to disagree with the statement that anything which can be found in the grocery store equates to crap, the only good foods are in specialty stores. This is pure opinion and not substantiated by facts at all (i.e. results). It's based on sites such as DogFoodAnalysis and similar nutrition propoganda websites.

    All kibble is processed, so if you're going to feed dry food, go with a brand that works, not one that just looks nice on paper. My latest stint with a holistic, can only be found by a special trip to God's Country and costs $50 for a 26lb bag, was with Wellness CORE. I tried it due to the fact my pups were doing so well on Wellness pup, and the mineral content was much more moderate in this brand than other grain frees. I have since learned that the reason we had TWO dogs have a hypoglycemic fit on CORE was due to the fact that potatoes are very, very high on the glycemix index. They can cause drastic spikes in the blood sugar level, which of course, would also make blood sugar crashes more likely. You know, what goes up, must come down ... I have NEVER had a dog suffer a hypoglycemic fit - and in the 10 or so days I fed CORE, I had two seize within 3 days of each other. I've been looking for the answer as to why one had a blood glucose level of 38, the other 41, and my research has shown that feeding potatoes to dogs as the main carbohydrate source, on a regular basis, can cause dramatic spikes in blood sugar.

    The food I'm using now for the adults has the EXACT same carb content of Wellness (38%) but contains sorghum, which I know from my days feeding Euk, is a grain chosen in dog foods because it PREVENTS spikes in blood sugar and promotes an even glucose level - thereby preventing spikes & the inevitable crashes that follow them.
    The grocerg store "garbage" and other brands I've fed that were frowned upon have never caused such issues. I think I've finally learned my lesson and will stick with the older, tried & true grocery brands. My pups are even back on Puppy Chow as of last week.

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    I'll have more to say about this later, when I get home. Be prepared!
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