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    Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    I can't believe I am posting about Ol Roy! LOL

    But I wanted some opinions here. Now I normally wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft. pole. I don't necessarily always feed a no grain food, but I try to feed the best I can afford. Heck I'd like to feed my kids all organic and natural food, but I can't afford that either!

    That said this week has been a horribly tight week. Unexpected expenses etc.. But, couldn't wait until next week for dog food. So I figured I would run to Wal-mart and buy the best they had. I spotted a food call Pure Balance, it didn't sound bad, then I realized it was by Ol Roy! I went ahead and bought, it. Pup seems to like it. I wouldn't buy it on a regular basis, alot of rice in it. But, I don't think it is an awful choice for someone on a tight budget $6.78 for I think either a 4-5 lb bag. I checked Dog Food Advisor and it gets 3.5 stars. Here is a breakdown, what do you all think?

    Chicken, Chicken Meal , Brown Rice, Brewers Rice, Pea Protein, Poultry Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, a source of vitamin E), Dried Beet Pulp, Rice Bran, Dicalcium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Dried Carrots, Oatmeal, Flaxseed, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Dried Peas, Dried Cranberry, Potassium Chloride, Zinc Proteinate, Choline Chloride, Iron Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Copper Proteinate, Biotin, Manganese Proteinate, L-Carnitine, Niacin, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), D-Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Vitamin A Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Folic Acid

    Crude Protein (min) 27.0%
    Crude Fat (min) 15.0%
    Crude Fiber (max) 5.0%
    Moisture (max) 10.0%
    Linoleic Acid (min) 3.5%
    Zinc (min) 250 mg/kg
    Vitamin E (min) 250 IU/kg
    *Alpha-Linolenic Acid (min) 0.35%
    *Ascorbic Acid (Source of Vitamin C) (min) 35 mg/kg
    *L-Carnitine (min) 15 mg/kg
    *Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles.

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    Re: Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    Like you said, it's not bad for the price. I'm glad they at least have something not-horrible at Walmart. Not the best, but not bad either .

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    Re: Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    I believe Walmart actually sells a grain free food now, as well.
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    Re: Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    Quote Originally Posted by georgiapeach View Post
    I believe Walmart actually sells a grain free food now, as well.
    I thought they did also. But couldn't find it last night. Maybe my store doesn't carry it. Or I blindly looked right past it! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiapeach View Post
    I believe Walmart actually sells a grain free food now, as well.
    I haven't heard of it if they do. But then the Walmarts here don't even have Pure Balance .

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    Re: Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    If that's the best you can do, it's not bad at all. Like you said, you are paying for a lot of rice, but it's way better than Beneful or regular Ol Roy. It's not like I've never hit a budget crunch before, myself.
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    Hi I am new here.
    I have been researching the OL Roy Brand "Pure Balance" and came across this forum. I have a schnauzer with diabetes. Recently I switched to Pure Balance because the brand i normally feed was not available any longer in my small town. In desperation I looked at Wal Mart (small town, only place to shop) I searched for a dog food like the one I had been feeding until I could find/buy my normal Brand (Diamond Lite) I get blood panels done on my dog on a regular basis...and other than the diabetes all things were normal range. My dog became ill this week...I thought it might be pancreas issue so I took him to my vet yesterday. Everything came back normal EXCEPT his liver panel! The readings were in the red zone...his kidneys, pancreas and sugar levels were fine! So, wracking my brain to figure out why this happened..I searched the internet and lo and behold...there are posts about Ol Roy dog food containing MENADIONE SODIUM BISULFITE COMPLEX ..look at the ingredients posted by Brydean. This ingredient is toxic to cats and dogs. Apparently, pets are dying from liver toxicity from this ingredient! What I am finding out is that distributors (Wal Mart etc) repackage dog food (made in China or food products supplied by China) and do not always include ALL the ingredients or are not specific as to what the ingredient really is ie. "animal digest" . The labeling also leads you to believe that the food was made here in US, when in fact it is NOT. We should be able to buy a safe pet food based on honest labeling of a product. I immediately stopped feeding the Pure Balance and he is now on Blue Buffalo. I will be taking him back for xrays and ultrasound next week...and I will do another blood panel in about 10-14 days to see if there is a major change. Now, I cant prove that it IS the Pure Balance...but Im thinking it may be the reason because that is the only thing that has changed in my dog's diet...AND he had normal liver readings prior to this...and BTW..he has only been on this food for about 3 weeks...I just opened the second bag of Pure Balance (which is now in the garbage!). Just some information that might be helpful..again I cannot prove that this dry food is the culprit. and I am basing this opinion on information I have discovered about the MENADIONE SODIUM BISULFITE COMPLEX..but I should have a good answer soon. I will re-post when I know something more definitive.
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    Re: Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    ^ Thanks for posting! I was going to point out the MENADIONE. Very very bad. I don't understand why some foods still use it.

    Ingredient-wise, it doesn't look bad at all - especially for Ol' Roy... but I still wouldn't touch it. God only knows where it's being manufactured, and I certainly wouldn't trust them as a company, if things from their other foods are somehow being mixed in with this food, etc.

    For Ol' Roy, yeah, it's certainly a decent looking ingredient list. But ingredient lists aren't always everything. If you're in a bind, check out Fromm Classics. You can get a 15lb for under $20 from a top notch company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingko4me View Post
    I immediately stopped feeding the Pure Balance and he is now on Blue Buffalo. I will be taking him back for xrays and ultrasound next week...and I will do another blood panel in about 10-14 days to see if there is a major change.
    To be honest, Blue Buffalo wouldn't be my top choice either. If there's one food I read the most about causing GI upsets, and high liver panels, etc, it's BB. It's also manufactured in, like, 5 different facilities. I really don't trust that they have employees over-seeing every single facility.

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    I only went to BB because I live in a small, remote town...and it is the best I can get my hands on immediately. My schnauzer has not had any problems so far..and his stool is perfect now. No vomiting..no loose stools and he seems to be feeling better. The vet put him on Denamarin..but only had one dose..so I'm assuming that he is better because of dog food. The fact is...there probably isn't a perfect dog food now that distributors have chosen to go out of the country for pet food ingredients and supplies I m researching a more permanent source of food. I'm actually thinking of going back to making his food again...at least I know whats in it.(or do I really?? arsenic in rice issue). Sad that dog food can cost up to 100$ for a large bag...that's just raping pet owners. What about people on fixed incomes, strict budgets etc...if they cannot afford expensive food they shouldn't have a pet?? Not everyone can afford Origen and products of that caliber...and what in the world is in that food that it has to cost so much...does it have a gold lining in the bag or?? I'm angry and just venting my frustrations because I try to be careful...read the labels and trust that the manufacturer of the food I buy is making a quality, safe product. We shouldn't have to be chemists in order to know what ingredients are harmful to our pets I'm not the first to be upset...I won't be the last...unfortunately more pets will die, maybe my own...before someone will do something to protect us and our pets.
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    Re: Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    Walmart used to carry a grain free for a very short time, then it mysteriously disappeared in my area (south of ATL, GA); guessing it was an experiment that wasn't cost effective for their demographic.

    With that said, I've also taken a pay cut (my choice - I retired from teaching, and I'm currently subbing part time to make some extra money), so I was looking for a less e expensive grain free option. I stumbled upon Authority Grain Free at Petsmart. I'm sure it's not the best food, but looking at the ingredients, it's definitely not the worst. I decided to get a small bag, and my 2 low-allergy dogs are doing okay on it so far (they need grain free, but have few other digestive issues). My poodle, who's got an iron gut only took a few days to transition, while the boxer is still transitioning very slowly (gotta be careful with boxers!). The price is right, for sure (about $10 for a small bag, and about $19 for a medium sized bag. Right now, there isn't a large bag available. Here's a link, where you can see the information on this kibble: http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...AvailInUS%2FNo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gingko4me View Post
    I only went to BB because I live in a small, remote town...and it is the best I can get my hands on immediately. My schnauzer has not had any problems so far..and his stool is perfect now. No vomiting..no loose stools and he seems to be feeling better. The vet put him on Denamarin..but only had one dose..so I'm assuming that he is better because of dog food. The fact is...there probably isn't a perfect dog food now that distributors have chosen to go out of the country for pet food ingredients and supplies I m researching a more permanent source of food. I'm actually thinking of going back to making his food again...at least I know whats in it.(or do I really?? arsenic in rice issue). Sad that dog food can cost up to 100$ for a large bag...that's just raping pet owners. What about people on fixed incomes, strict budgets etc...if they cannot afford expensive food they shouldn't have a pet?? Not everyone can afford Origen and products of that caliber...and what in the world is in that food that it has to cost so much...does it have a gold lining in the bag or?? I'm angry and just venting my frustrations because I try to be careful...read the labels and trust that the manufacturer of the food I buy is making a quality, safe product. We shouldn't have to be chemists in order to know what ingredients are harmful to our pets I'm not the first to be upset...I won't be the last...unfortunately more pets will die, maybe my own...before someone will do something to protect us and our pets.
    Why not order from petflow.com? Thats where I get mine, If I were you I'd try the new TOTW with wild boar. I just got it last week, but haven't tried it yet, not like my dogs care, they will eat any thing.
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    Re: Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    Totw wild boar is really the worst totw formula. I would go with another totw one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salina View Post
    Totw wild boar is really the worst totw formula. I would go with another totw one
    Care to explain why?
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    Re: Pure Balance - Ol Roy

    Becuse its...beef, chickpeas, peas, lamb meal...so too much peas. Its not even beef meal as the first ingredient. I feed Totw and love it, but the southwest canyon one really is no their best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salina View Post
    Becuse its...beef, chickpeas, peas, lamb meal...so too much peas. Its not even beef meal as the first ingredient. I feed Totw and love it, but the southwest canyon one really is no their best
    It's still better than Ol Roy. I don't like that it's a smaller bag for the same price (it's like 2 lbs, but still thats retarded.)
    Dogs are like potato chips, you can't have just one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeronightfarm View Post
    It's still better than Ol Roy. I don't like that it's a smaller bag for the same price (it's like 2 lbs, but still thats retarded.)
    But why not another totw formula?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salina View Post
    But why not another totw formula?
    From what I hear, it has helped dogs that can't handle other formulas, due to not having potatos/lower glycemic.
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    I feed TOTW roasted fowl. My dogs love it and are doing great on it.
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    Here is a good article about Menadione (synthetic Vitamin K3) if anyone is interested.
    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione

    Portion of the article:
    Why is it bad?

    As a non-native speaker (German is my native language), it has been difficult for me to compose this article in English, since I had to translate most of my information from literature originally written in German. My search for relevant, unbiased sources in English was not very successful, with exception of some obscure references and texts that provided some information but do not include all the facts. There were also many articles written by authors who didn't even have the basic knowledge to differentiate between vtiamin K1, K2 and K3.
    Here is a list of negative effects of menadione on the body. It is incomplete, since my English medical terminology is lacking and I was simply not able to translate the more complicated scientific phrases into proper English:
    • causes cytotoxicity in liver cells
    • causes formation of radicals from enzymes of leucocytes, with the consequence of cytotoxic reactions
    • considerably weakens the immune system
    • possible mutagenic effects
    • damages the natural vitamin K cycle
    • has no effect on coumarin derivatives, which are often present in commercial food due to mold contamination (toxic when ingested)
    • causes hemolytic anemia and hyperbilirubinemia, not just linked to large doses
    • disturbs the level of calcium ions (Ca2+) in the body, which is an important factor fibrinolysis
    • is directly toxic in high doses (vomiting, albuminuria), unlike natural vitamin K
    • builds up in tissue and has been detected in eggs, meat and milk of animals supplemented with menadione derivatives
    • causes irritation of skin and mucous membranes
    • causes allergic reactions and eczema


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