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Old 10-19-2009, 12:42 PM   #21
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Re: Guess the mix!

I'm sorry the heartworms are so bad. I hope the treatment goes smoothly. Keep us posted.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:14 PM   #22
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I'm sorry the heartworms are so bad. I hope the treatment goes smoothly. Keep us posted.
Thanks, I will update, but it will be a few weeks.

I had a dog as a kid that had them bad, they used arsenic then I believe. She lived to ripe old age but the treatment definately took a big toll on her.

My vet says since then they have isolated the single compound found in arsenic that kills the worms, and it is much less damaging to the dog.

She's been on a heartworm preventative, and I gave her one today, he says that will actually make it easier.

She'll just have to kept from any strenuous activity for a month or two.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:02 PM   #23
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She looks a bit Malinois-ish to me.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:21 PM   #24
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Awww Tx I was hoping you would have gone with Kyrie... it sounds sooo cool when you call it Ky-rieeeee... but congrats all the same. Why wouldn't your vet maybe recommend a half a year using ivermectin to lighten her load then try a more invasive treatment. If she's that bad I would think going directly to a high kill method would really be harmful.

Ya might want to run it past him In some high load cses they'll even try a lower dose of ivermec every 15 days at least then you don't have the 3 weeks of inactivity to worry about.

PS welcome to the failed fosters club... I'm also a member... my toy fox and my boxer/bulldog are both failed fosters. Now lets see if the cocker foster makes it to a new home
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:21 AM   #25
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Awww Tx I was hoping you would have gone with Kyrie... it sounds sooo cool when you call it Ky-rieeeee... but congrats all the same. Why wouldn't your vet maybe recommend a half a year using ivermectin to lighten her load then try a more invasive treatment. If she's that bad I would think going directly to a high kill method would really be harmful.

Ya might want to run it past him In some high load cses they'll even try a lower dose of ivermec every 15 days at least then you don't have the 3 weeks of inactivity to worry about.

PS welcome to the failed fosters club... I'm also a member... my toy fox and my boxer/bulldog are both failed fosters. Now lets see if the cocker foster makes it to a new home
I don't get the impression he thinks it's severe, just not ligth case as I had hoped.

The rescue said she was a a year old so I was hoping it would be lighter.

I don't think it's severe like my dog decades ago had, with her heart enlarged and all.

I believe she's been on Iverheart or something for the better part of a year, but I don't know what's in that. At least it was prescribed for her in her records, but with cash running out at the rescue, and going bankrupt several months later, who knows if she actually received it.

One of my neighbors shared last night that she recently had her 8 year old golden treated, and he swelled up badly and almost died, I didn't need to hear that.
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It still might be worth talking to your vet about just incase Tx. It never hurts to lighten the load before going with a more invasive heartworm treatment. Ivermec doesn"t kill adult heartworms but kills all the microfloria. There was a good link with another post that I'm watching... I'll have to get it for ya.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:13 AM   #27
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It still might be worth talking to your vet about just incase Tx. It never hurts to lighten the load before going with a more invasive heartworm treatment. Ivermec doesn"t kill adult heartworms but kills all the microfloria. There was a good link with another post that I'm watching... I'll have to get it for ya.
I've been reading up a lot.

The stuff he gave her was ivermectin based, as was the stuff on the shelter records.

Seems ivermectin kills one stage of pre adult worms and seem to shorten lifespans of adult worms. It's out of the dogs system in about 72 hours from ingestion.

I have seen just ivermectin recommended only for light cases, class 1 out 4 classes, with the stipulation that the adults will die off over the following 1-2 years. But it leaves the dog vulnerable to embolism etc. for the whole 1-2 years if the dog is active.

The immiticide is much the same, but the danger of embolism passes in 4-6 weeks, and is much higher as are other risk of other serious side effects.

I'm doubting she is a light enough case that ivermectin alone would be a good idea. I will ask though.

Right now I think all I can do is hope the immiticide side effects aren't too bad for her, only 5% death rate, and it doesn't leave any permanent muscle damage at the injection site and implore the vet to be careful with the dosage and injection.

Keeping her quiet will be my problem, I plan to just close her off in my bedroom away from Hope while I'm at work, but the thought of getting her a crate is also in my mind. I'm not sure how she will react to either one though. Her and Hope have become a lot closer now, and are roughhousing around a bit.

She has been sleeping on the foot of the bed all night since I got her, while Hope prefers the floor or a sofa in the other room so overnight won't be an issue.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:40 AM   #28
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Might be a little husky because of the size.

I highly doubt it's not mix with klee kai, since they are pretty rare to come by.
They also a lot smaller. The husky is around 50 pounds, and the klee kai around 13.
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