The results are in..you won't believe it

lovemygreys · 03-08-2008, 11:12 AM

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I think this was a little misleading. "The genetic marker" and "a genetic marker" are two different things. Yes, they missed on one test...but that doesn't mean that is isn't included in the test and cannot be identified by the test.

I understand a missed test. But how do you miss on a purebred dog? How do you find a mix of a completely different breed and not even detect the breed that IS what the dog IS. How can you tell what a mixed breed dog is if you can't find the PURE bred dogs. I would think those would be the easiest or most obvious.

But...whatever. You believe you got a good answer from the company and that's really all that matters.

Mac'N'Roe · 03-08-2008, 12:12 PM

Honestly, I don't know enough about genetics or DNA markers to debate about it. I had the test done, got the results, I actually have said that I don't believe them 100%. I was just trying to point out that the paraphrase of the article was a little misleading, and was trying to clear it up for others. I couldn't say one way or another about why a purebread dog was mis-identified...unless perhaps the genetic markers of the rotwaller (spelled wrong) and the ridgeback are similar in some manner. I'm sure if you did a little more research...there would be some type of explanation about the reason for the vagueness of the "pure bred" testing.

I'm not sure how much you know or if you have been exposed to genetics or DNA markers. It is a VERY complicated, intricate field. It's not cut and dry like you would think...a pure bred dog probably doesn't just SCREAM out of the test. There are thousands of markers, and only hundreds that are unique to a breed, and probably less than that when you get into similar breeds within the same type of family... and these are all subject to interpretation (this is just my speculation on it, again...I really don't know enough about it to really debate the subject). But I did take a biology course which covered genetics (and DNA identification) in college. Looking at DNA and identifying or mapping is involved.

I think I read that they claim a positive predictive value of 84%...so there you go. One case doesn't necessarily, in my mind, invalidate the test.

Mr Pooch · 03-09-2008, 12:21 AM

M'N'R,LMAO,remind me never to invest in a Dog DNA test.
I cant believe they ask for a picture,i cant see that mix in them at all,especially mac he looks pure Bully to me and be proud of him.

They are both unique looking but the DNA people must be sitting there drunk and taking random guesses with your dollars in their pocket.

Dog5 · 03-09-2008, 01:29 PM

It would be interesting to have another company do the test and see if they get the same results...

Mac'N'Roe · 03-10-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pooch

M'N'R,LMAO,remind me never to invest in a Dog DNA test.
I cant believe they ask for a picture,i cant see that mix in them at all,especially mac he looks pure Bully to me and be proud of him.

They are both unique looking but the DNA people must be sitting there drunk and taking random guesses with your dollars in their pocket.

Hey Dom, this particular company doesn't ask for a picture. I actually haven't heard of that before...but apparently some companies do. Although...you are right..they are probably taking random guesses with my buck-fifty in their pocket (grrrr) I AM SOOO proud of these two! I don't really believe the results...and have gotten over my curiosity.

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Originally Posted by Dog5

It would be interesting to have another company do the test and see if they get the same results...

Yes, it would be. I'll wait another five years or so and see if the technology has improved though - and if the breed list has expanded in other companies.

Mr Pooch · 03-10-2008, 01:10 PM

M'NR,it really dont matter because they are both beautiful Bullys anyway.
"wink",go and post their pics in the "calling all bullybreed/mastiff" thread.
Take care,Dom

dogma · 03-11-2008, 01:22 AM

The wisdom panel does not require a picture, just 2mLs of Blood.

I got my dog's results back and its what everyone was guessing.
Chow Chow, German Shep
Trace: Golden Retriever

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Originally Posted by Mr Pooch

M'N'R,LMAO,remind me never to invest in a Dog DNA test.
I cant believe they ask for a picture,i cant see that mix in them at all,especially mac he looks pure Bully to me and be proud of him.

They are both unique looking but the DNA people must be sitting there drunk and taking random guesses with your dollars in their pocket.

jchantelau · 03-11-2008, 09:39 AM

I hope you don't mind but I wanted to do a side by side comparison of an RR and your pup. I don't know about anyone else but I see RR in your dog for sure, test or no test.

Mr Pooch · 03-11-2008, 02:17 PM

Well if you ever needed proof,DAMM,there it is,thats uncanny,they are almost identical!

jchantelau · 03-11-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pooch

Well if you ever needed proof,DAMM,there it is,thats uncanny,they are almost identical!

I would say this pup is mostly RR and maybe a little lab/mastiff but geez he could pass for pure RR with that pic. By the way Mr. Pooch Aslan is just gorgeous!

Mac'N'Roe · 03-11-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jchantelau

I hope you don't mind but I wanted to do a side by side comparison of an RR and your pup. I don't know about anyone else but I see RR in your dog for sure, test or no test.

THANK YOU. YES, RR was one of the first breeds that I initially saw in Roe (funny too, huh, "Roe"desian ridgeback..get it?). That was just a coincidence. I am pretty convinced she has RR in her. But, I think she definitely looks like an RR, and then I saw this picture from last weekend which looks lab/mastiff

Look at her face - is that more lab or mastiff? Lab, right?

Here's what i think - Roe looks like a RRXlab.
Mac looks like a pitxboxer a little mastiff. That's what I think, test or no test.

Mr Pooch · 03-11-2008, 05:09 PM

M.N.R,LOL,your dogs are a difficult one,now in that pic Roe reminds me of a young Aslan!!

There is someone on here,they have posted their 2 dogs in the "bully breed/mastiff pics" whos dog looks exactly the same as your dogs mum?

I'll go check out the name so u can look.

Mac'N'Roe · 03-11-2008, 05:25 PM

One thing to remember too, I only did the test on Mac. So, Roe could be from another Father, which could possibly been where the RR came into play. Mac's test said boxer/lab...so he also has lab in him (which I don't really see).

I guess it would be interesting to see test results from the mom and Roe too, see what they say. But, I'm not going down that road.

CrazyDog · 03-11-2008, 06:02 PM

Mac'N'Roe your dogs are beautiful as usual! I love seeing pics of them!

As for the test results, very interesting! I definitely see Boxer in your two and the mother. I can see Lab in Mac. He has the build and the face. I think it's just the color that is throwing everyone. If he was Yellow or Black he would defiantly look Lab. I do see some Ridgeback in Roe though, but it may just be his coloring. I just knew there wasn't going to be any Pit them.

I didn't see the Pit. Pits have REALLY heavy bone and muscle structure around there head, jaw and neck. It seems Pits are the new Lab though, everyone thinks there dog has at least a little bit of APBT mixed in. LOL!! I definitely DON'T see the Australian Terrier but I guess anythings possible!!

Thank you so much for sharing the results with us. It was quite interesting. Like Dog5 said, it would be really interesting to have them test by other companies to see if they come up with the same results.....What ever the results they are still very handsome fellows.

jchantelau · 03-11-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac'N'Roe

One thing to remember too, I only did the test on Mac. So, Roe could be from another Father, which could possibly been where the RR came into play. Mac's test said boxer/lab...so he also has lab in him (which I don't really see).

I guess it would be interesting to see test results from the mom and Roe too, see what they say. But, I'm not going down that road.

I wouldn't either they are gorgeous dogs!

Mac'N'Roe · 03-11-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyDog

Mac'N'Roe your dogs are beautiful as usual! I love seeing pics of them!

As for the test results, very interesting! I definitely see Boxer in your two and the mother. I can see Lab in Mac. He has the build and the face. I think it's just the color that is throwing everyone. If he was Yellow or Black he would defiantly look Lab. I do see some Ridgeback in Roe though, but it may just be his coloring. I just knew there wasn't going to be any Pit them.

I didn't see the Pit. Pits have REALLY heavy bone and muscle structure around there head, jaw and neck. It seems Pits are the new Lab though, everyone thinks there dog has at least a little bit of APBT mixed in. LOL!! I definitely DON'T see the Australian Terrier but I guess anythings possible!!

Thank you so much for sharing the results with us. It was quite interesting. Like Dog5 said, it would be really interesting to have them test by other companies to see if they come up with the same results.....What ever the results they are still very handsome fellows.

Thanks CrazyDog. I can see where you are coming from. I was looking at him yesterday at his face and was trying to see the lab...I guess it is the coloring that's throwing me off. I'm starting to see though. I'll go look at the lab thread and see what I think. Roe definitely looks lab to me too. Anyway, thanks for looking and your feedback. I really appreciate it!