Peoples attitudes

drfong

I was listening to a radio call in show this morning and got so mad at this on student who called in. The topic was obviously the shooting and there was debate about guns and how a warning should have gone out. Probably the same as everywhere else in the country and the host was saying there should have been a system that text messages all the students of a warning. I don't dissagree with this, it is probably a good idea. With all the students, a mass text message would have spread quickly. Well in the disscussion of course it was brought up that kids in class would not get it, or should they have their phones on in class. This guy calls in and basicly said that texting in class (not just emergancy) and having your phone on was ok. The reason was because they are adults who are paying for the class so they should basicly have the right to do what they want. Besides the reality that they do not really pay to be there. They pay a small part of the expense to be there, and many get private and government money to be there. Besides that, how disrespectful is it to sit in someones class and have your phone on and be texting. The worst part is he was a member of the SGA. Not just with phones, but people these days have no respect for anyone but themselves. I went to the movies the other night. First date with my wife in a while, and a family comes in an sits down right behind us (late at that) with a baby in a carrier. Of course the kid starts crying and they don't take it out. As long as they were happy, screww everyone else. Same thing in resturants. I understand if your at shoney's kids are going to be running around, but at a nice exspensive adult reesturant. If your too cheep to get a sitter, don't go. People use phones in church or let the kids bother everyone. People will go to a play or hear a speaker and not give the performers the respect of shuting up and paying attention. How were these people raised. I was raised to give people respect, if its a teacher, a preacher, a performer or just other people.

cshellenberger

It's all syptomatic of the "ME" generation. Everything is about self and to heck with anyone else. Many of these people WERE taught better, they've just quite caring.

sillylilykitty

I agree, a lot of people now days are very self-centered. Sometimes it gets really irritating And I dont really know how they can be so mean. Also there are many people who are oblivious to whats happening around them. I just dont understand.

AndyVetra

They are more to be pitied than scolded I think.

Sawyer

You bring up a hot topic for me as well! I'm easily annoyed by cellphones but to be honest - I think those of us who weren't raised around them just have higher standards for cellphone ettiquette.

I went to see Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf with Kathleen Turner and was so geeked up about it. We were asked several times to turn off cellphones - and yet at least a dozen times they went off in the theatre.

One thing I will disagree with - I'm not too cheap to get a sitter to go out to dinner! I just like having my little ones with me to enjoy a meal other than Portillos!!!!!!

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drfong

Sawyer, how old are your kids and how well behaved? I guess my problem is not that kids are in the resturant but that they are running around and making lots of noise. When I was a kid if I was disrubtive in a resturant my mom would take me to the restroom and whip my butt. Now days parrents just let them run wild. Also I do believe that there are some resturants where people are going out for a romantic dinner and maybe a drink and it is really inapropriate for people to bring kids.

iwantmypup

I believe some places it is kinda odd for kids to be there..( like a super super romantic place or a bar ) but if the kids are , used to going out..or easily "not crazy" there isnt a problem with it...



Coming from a kid that goes out alot.

Sawyer

Mine are 1 and 4. My one year old is in bed by 6 but I get really excited about "date night" with my 4 year old. We do a movie (usually around 4) so dinner is at 6ish - always on a weekday. Like you, we could not get away with ANYTHING when we were young. I'm more laid back with my children than my parents were with me but still, today, it seems parents are afraid of their own children. What is annoying for adults can be down right scary and dangerous for children.

Jaylie

I believe with not letting your kid get away with anything...The way I was brought up. I was much happier that way!

I've take my five year old brother on "dates!!" He loves them, I love 'em. We usually go to a dinner and a movie. The cinema's are about a block from my house, so I just walk with him. Once, my other brother came too. He's not quite ready for dates yet!!

drfong

I think it's great to do things with your kids. I was talking more about people who take kids to adult movies because they don't want to pay a sitter, not taking your kids to age appropriate movies. I also don't get people who take their very young kids into church to disturb everyone and say "they need to learn to sit thru church". What they need is to go to their age appropriate class so others can pay attention to the preacher. A 5 year old gets nothing out of a sermon that is relavent to adults.

sillylilykitty

I agree! When I was a a kid I could barely sit through the announcements the preacher says before sending the kids to classes!

Jaylie

I believe that kids should sit through the sermon. They should learn to respect their elders. Church shouldn't be treated as a time to go play with your friends in a classroom. And they DO need to learn how to sit through church. What my parents always do, is have us sit with them during church, and then on our way home, have us repeat the basic outline of the service. If we didn't understand it, then they will put it in simpler terms. At all of the churches I've ever gone to, in the "classrooms" for the kids, it's always been an hour of games, fifteen minutes of reading the bible. No discussion, nothing. For the younger kids, it's the basic bible stories they hear every day anyway. They either need to make better classes for the kids, or people need to allow parents to bring their kids into the sermon. There's a church that we went to that KICKED US OUT because we brought our little kids in. Well, I was thinking...What if we had been brand new Christians. That church wasn't setting a very good example. And even Jesus allowed the children to come and sit on his lap when the disciples were trying to shoo them away.

onyxdaily

My opinion is that I have no problem where you bring your children, where you bring your animals, where you bring yourself for that matter. What I have a problem with is when any of who or what you bring with you, including yourself, is disrespectful of others around you. I absolutely love children, but I don't believe it's respectful to let kids run around in a store or restaurant being loud or disruptive. I don't believe it's respectful to chat on your cell phone while driving and swerve all over or sit still at a stop light because you aren't paying attention that the light turned green. I was raised to give respect, and also that in turn I would get respect. But it's like alot of time I seem to be one of the few considerate and respectful people where ever I may be (store, restaurant, work, etc). It really gets old at times, but I will go on being respectful of others. I would feel absolutely disrespectful to my parents if I were any other way. And I'm sure they're both watching down on me and would find a way to kick my butt if I get out of line.

FranMan

It is because spanking is bad now. We should only give them hugs and they'll do the right thing.

Jaylie

Oh yes, I know exactly what you're saying. When kids get out of control (Or adults...Who knows, with the times we're in now) THEN they should DEFINATELY be taken out...And, IMO, spanked. What I don't like is at stores and such, when an adult will throw a temper tantrum just because the cashier accidently got his order wrong. It makes longer lines, it's VERY rude, and it's just uncalled for.

German Shepherd Lover

Nowadays all of the kids know to run to the phone and dial 911 and have their parents put in jail for child abuse if they get spanked.

This society is always ready to blame everyone except the culprit for the problem.

It wasn't the shooter, it was his childhood,it was the internet, it was the gun, it was the college, it was the enviroment, it was his parents, it was his teachers, it was the peer pressure, it was his clothing and on and on and on. For goodness sake it was the idiot that shoot the people....period.

We don't have very good examples to follow or learn from either. Just watch the news and see what the LIBERAL MEDIA says is President Bush's fault. They blame him for everything just to further their political agenda. It would really be nice if the media would report the news accurately and stay out of politics. It would also be nice if the government were for the people and not just for the people in politics!!!

And you wonder why people have attitudes.

Jaylie

VERY well said, GSL. *Applauds*

drfong

Jaylie, I don't think it's right for a church to "kick you out" but I also have been to several churches that ask people not to bring kids into the service. If that is how they do things than I would think people who choose to attend there should abide by that or choose another place to worship. Babys can't understand the sermon no matter how simple you make it, 3 year olds, 5-10. What would be a reasonable age. I do agree that if the church is not providing real learning for the kids but just a play time parrents should be finding another church. I would say that atleast 80 percent of all kids under 10 would have a very tough time sitting still and paying attention to an adult preaching about topics related to faith and how it realates to adult life for 30-45 min. Most just sit and play on the floor, make noise and distract the parrents and anyone else near them. You wouldn't stick a young kid in a college class and then just try to make it simpler for them afterwards. You send them to 1st grade first. Age appropriate learning is the best way to teach, and at church is no different.

iwantmypup

Your right..it would be nice if the government was for the people...but right now with Bush..it's not gonna happen..

And you guys should stop blaming the liberals ...because do you know how much trouble Bush has caused...Killed many people in Iraq for one.

Besides...this isn't the Politics thread..in case you didn't know.

I don't know about you but your mixing two different topics in one.... Not a reason for applaud.

iwantmypup

Very well said.. I Agree.. ..

Yeah I totally...agree... I remember n school like 1st , 2nd grade. All I wanted to do was going out to play...No i wasn't learning the bible but still..

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