Lets Talk Politics...

harrise

That's why you hear very little in substance from her. She qualifies as a "1st tier" to me. Keeps the delegates/super delegates quiet too. In the event of a drastic change of public opinion, there is no history of delegate sabotage within the named nominee. Ugh, studying democrats is hard.

zimandtakandgrrandmimi

I would support breed specific legislation that required pit bull owners to learn how to manage the breed safely including breed history, temperment tendancies, instructions on how to break up a dog fight, training techniques, ex cetera. I would support this wholeheartedly.

proper education can stop people from making stupid mistakes in the first place.

what i'm talking about is making an attempt to make sure people know what they are getting themselves into.

and yes most will never face a shoot to kill situation but as soon as you get a gun you have toface the possibility of having to make that decision. you should be prepared.

most kids exposure to guns is tv and music and movies and that is NOT a good place to get real info on guns.

they grow up with an idealized version of what being a "criminal" is. it's sad.

the original fault was mine for not listening to those who knew better and at fourteen it's pretty easy for to dismiss good advice for a handsome face and gifts of jewlery. you know what it means for a latino gangbanger to have a white teenage girlfriend? it's a status symbol, you get "props" for "f**king the white man's daughters". and I really thought I loved him.....

at least with a stun gun and a dog, i'm respecting life not taking it. that's enough for me. yeah I have a gun and I would like to keep it thank you I enjoy blowing holes in targets to let off steam. but I will never again point a loaded gun at ANY living thing, ever again. I wasn't prepared. I spent six months in a mental health hospital with screaming nightmares day and night, waking and sleeping both because I wasn't able to handle it.

I actually favor the lovely modzs suggestion of gun education in school. I hadn't thought of that.

what i'm speaking of is teaching, in addition to gun safety, is basic strategy, understanding what kind of damage each kind of gun can do to a human body with the different kinds of ammo. teaching what are the legal repercussions.

possibly putting provisions in gun law to provide for those who end up hurting someone and having problems...perhaps some type of therapy program.

you are required to learn to drive before obtaining a drivers liscense, you are required to go to school to be a doctor. ex cetera. these things are not unreasonable as a driver can kill you with his car. a doctor who doesn't know what he's doing can kill you on the operating table. why is a gun owner any different?


respect life. it's precious.

harrise

However, you're not required to understand weight balance, understeer/oversteer, speed differential equations, maintenance, tire size/contact patch, braking distances, corner load, aerodynamic pressure impact on cornering speed... It's just a fantasy to believe we could do that. I would rather the same intense regulation of intricacies be applied to vehicles first. For obvious reasons, there's more people with cars than guns.

drfong

Here in TN you have to take a gun class to get a carry permit. If tought well I think it would cover alot of what you are talking about.

I personally would like to see stronger punishments for people who are careless, irresposible or use their guns (or dogs) to commit crimes. I think we need much harsher punishment for those who actually commit the deed, not everyone who is just trying to live responsibly.

bluedawg

If somebody is trying to harm myself or harm my family that person has foreited their rights. Their death is because of their actions not me defending myself or my loved ones.

There are two types of stun guns. Type 1 requires you or allow your attacker to get close to each other, unacceptable risks are involved. Type 2 give you one chance to hit your target allowing the attacker to shield themself with your dog, again an unacceptable outcome. Odds are the person trying to violate my rights has allready been to prison and only learned to be a better criminal. The fact that an attacker could be facing leathal force from their victim is a deterant of crime.

In the above senario, I have no idea how the indevidual would react when released from custody and no positive deterent from crime would have been acheived.

If I lived in an area that had a large amount of that type of criminal I would be a fool not to carry concealed.

My state alows for the use of leathal force for self protection. Also My size and look gives me a false sense of security, but I do not act irresponsably. Most people with concealed carry permits are less likely to get in an altercation or act irresponsably, the people with illeagal firearms are the ones who are going to act irresponsable.

The same reasons you use for not carrying a firearm would be the same for not carrying a tazer and just accept being a victim.

A teacher or student at VTech with a tazer couldnt have stopped the shooting there, but a teacher or student with a firearm could have.

Suzanna Hupp could have stopped George Hennard from killing 21 people and her mother and father for a total of 23 victims in the Luby's Cafateria shooting, but she was obeying the law and left her firearm in her car.

Gun free zones are victim prone zones.

So trot out your references I really would like to see them.

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harrise

Thank GOP for Colorado Revised Statute number 18-1-704.5

bluedawg

A friend of mine's dad life actually took a turn for the better because of his 2 tours in Viet Nam with the Army. That turn for the better has enriched the lives of hundreds and not thousands of others localy.

To my friends knowlege his father hasnt spoken about his time in Nam with his wife, close family members or to him, his own son so I have to assume it was not a good time spent in country.

A friend of my dads and 1 of my references for when I joined the Marines lost his leg in Nam as a Marine, he takes pride in serving his country when it was asked of him but takes no pride in taking the lives of others.

JenTN

I believe that most take pride and yes it enriches a lot of lives, many vets go on to live much better lives because of their service. What I mean is those that have had to take lives usually carry emotional scars forever from the life or lives they have had to take. Same for police officers I know that have had to kill someone in the line of duty.

cwnobogie

It is irresponsible to think of violent criminal offenders as people. They forefit their humanity when these intolerable crimes are committed.

bluedawg

I know I am guessing when it comes to my friends dad but Im going to give you my best guess.

He is now and has been for many years a Pastor at a local church and has helped many people. Had he not spent 2 tours in country in Nam I dout he would have followed the path he did becoming a minister, imagine what he did in country to make him stop "running from god" (his words).

harrise

Aw hell. Looks like I have to vote Obama so poor old Susan Sarandon will stay. PLEASE STAY SUSAN!!!!!

bluedawg

Maybe if Obama gets elected the Baldwins will move back to the states...

Wait they didnt live up to their promise to leave did they?

harrise

No, they didn't.

... and I assure you it was Bush's fault they couldn't/didn't/wouldn't.

drfong

For someone to say they are going to leave the country if their candidate loses is just so self-indulgent they ought to be ship out anyway. Like anyone cares where Susan lives.

bluedawg

Im sure its self indulgent to want to secede from the union, but dang it I think AK would be better off as a country then a state..

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