More Crap From That Right-Wing Nutcase harrise...

emily445455

But see I don't see myself as a Republican. I like how the democrats view some issues and how the republicans view others. Would that make me independent?

We never really discussed abortion in school...at least not that i remember...

Criosphynx

I dont' know!

Most people just vote for the "side" they agree with the most. I don't agree with all the democrats views, but i just lean that way more i guess.

If you agree with most of the republican stances, you should probably vote that direction.


We discussed alot of hot stuff in one of my senior classes... Gay rights, religion, abortion, guns, civil rights.... the teacher was very into politics and actually had some pretty outdated views about women. He got us talking tho.

drfong

What makes you a democrat or republican is if you are registered with either party. If you are just someone trying to decide who to vote for you are the coveted "undecided voter" that all candidates are trying to influence.

As to "i don't care who you vote for, just vote" theory. I can not stand that. (sorry if I offend) but I think the reason we have such crappy candidates is because we can convince people it is more imortant to vote than who they vote for. If you don't know the issues and the candidates, don't vote. I would prefer you take a little time to find out who you agree with more and vote, but the whole movement to just "get out the vote" sucks. I think you should have to take a very easy test to atleast prove you can identify the candidates and what they stand for before being allowed to vote. I know that will never happen, but it just shows how much I think we need informed voters not lots of voters.

The deal with Russia/Georgia. To say that Georgia was the aggressor is like saying if a group of people in south Dakota wanted to susceed from the US and Canada said they were now Canadian citizens. Then when they started causing trouble within SD and American forces went to quell problems in the US so Canada invaded, saying USA was the aggressor. Russia had no place to be there.

harrise

I guess I have dealt with that statement so many times in the past that I have a pretty good feeling what happens that Tuesday in November.

I blame the country club pancake breakfast republican women/men rec center gatherings with tea, on having such a crappy candidate. At least that's how my county and state are. 45 minutes to hook up a laptop to a screen for a meeting and emails about my precinct location two months into the following year... It's amazing anyone knows there is a Colorado Republican party.

emily445455

I don't think I know enough about their stances to know...*shrug*

Lol, I probably hold some of the view about women as your teacher

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lovemygreys

I second that. If you can't be bothered to educate yourself on the issues and where the candidates stand, then do the rest of us a favor and stay home. There are serious issues facing this country and I shudder to think our future is being decided by people who are voting based on a random checking of boxes, name recognition, the color of the sky or any other lametard candidate selection process.

So whatever you do, don't vote if you can't vote responsibly.

Honestly, I'd like to see a little stiffer eligibility requirements for voting other than being a citizen over 18 with a pulse. Let's start with, if you don't pay taxes you don't get to vote (exemptions for spouses of tax paying citizens and retirees). Or how bout a weighted voting system...the more I pay in taxes (and therefore bear the heavier burden of financing the country) the more my vote counts. That sounds good too.

Criosphynx

he used to say, to a classroom full of girls, that women don't need a watch because there was a clock on the stove. He didn't feel women should hold jobs and only existed to make babies.

Some people believe certain things but understand that others are different and respect that, this guy was all about me me me me. Only his way mattered. Its scary that som' people are that way.




I think at first people need to vote just to vote. Young people need to get in the habit, for lack of a better word, and show at least some interest in their country.

emily445455

Oh, lol, well I'm not that bad I guess. but my views on women's roles aren't..what's the word....modern...?

Really, IMO, it doesn't really matter who votes for who...whoever is suppost to get the position as president...will.

harrise

I'm telling you all, most folk who "middle-of-the-road" or "I-don't-know" their positions are too wrapped up in their own lives to worry about something as trivial as voting. When someone tells me they don't know about the issues and what makes the differences between parties, I have no worries about them showing up at their precinct. Engaging in conversation with them only serves me. Making sure I can articulate my position well enough to convince myself. Every now and then they present a question that requires research and understanding on my part.

If an uneducated voter scares you, you're not passionate/dedicated about what you think.


(LMG: Ditto on the tax qualifications.)

drfong

it's not that uneducated voters scare me, I just don't see why there is a push to get everyone to vote. It is not that hard to investigate who more closely represents your own world view. We have internet, tv, radio and newspapers. Even with bias and manipulation, it is not that hard to sift thru it.

It is like saying everyone should pick their own investments even if they have no idea about the market or the economy. It's just good to get everyone involved. I'll let people who are educated in investing and devote the time and research in money management help me. It's too easy to get sucked into what seems good if you don't investigate for yourself.

Emily, just list the issues that are important to you and prioritize them. Then do some simple google searches and you can easily find what the candidates think about those topics. With a little more digging you can really start to find how they feel about it. Then you can go vote and feel good that win or loose, you voted for the one you felt was the best.

harrise

Heh, my selfish nature says that would rock. More money in the market means more money in the market. Losing money in the market makes you understand why you lost that money...

I'll stop now.

allison

HAHA! Ditto girlfriend!!!!



As for voting... this country fought for that right, we should respect it and do it! Do your research and learn what issues matter to you, then you can make a decision.

My pet peeve is when someone bitches (oops, can I say that word?) about the government and then to find out that person didn't even vote! Sigh.

Upholding the Constitution is important... part of doing that is by voting.

OK I'm done, thanks for listening!

K8IE

I am not proud to admit that I am one of those "undecided" voters this time around. I was raised in a very conservative family, but as I have gotten older have become much more liberal in my thinking. My views have changed a lot as I was just raised that you do what your family does but now know that many of the views I was raised with I do not hold dear, nor do I want my son to embrace.. I am definitely not fitting the family mold as of late, thankfully my family still loves me. LOL My mom calls me (affectionately, of course) her little tree-hugger.... My oldest sister is highly involved in Republican ventures and has been for years. When she lived in DC, she worked with the RPC for Sen Kyle, and after that was Sen Cornyn's speechwriter. She is now working for Dave Reichert. I guess if I really want more info on that side I can ask her huh? I suppose I need to get on the ball to be an "informed voter" either way...

harrise

I was lucky enough to have no influence from family. No matter how hard I tried, they would never tell me their stance. I had to find out the hard way, myself. Then you add in a bunch of aging hippie pot smoking 'America has no proud history' teachers in a small mountain town... Hmmm...

drfong

K8IE, I see your in Middle TN. I live in Franklin, small world. Every family has a black sheep and it seems they out number you so you can't do too much damage. Also TN has little chance of going to Obama so you may as well just take the 4th off!

K8IE

I am in Spring Hill! Yeah, I know that living where we do, it is pretty clear where the votes will go......

allison

Good for you for having your own views


You're like the Alex Keaton of your family ... lol

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