Humane Society getting butchered on its Facebook page for new vegan dogfood

McSweeney · 02-06-2010, 11:55 AM

Just for the record, I love "Dogtown" and "Pitbulls & Parolees". One of my professional colleagues, a literary agent by the name of Jane Rotrosen, is one of the leading pit bull advocates on the East Coast. (And one of her authors, Diane Jessup, wrote a beautiful novel about the pit bull; see link below.) My beef is not with any specific breed, rather the blanket acceptance of all dogs into these no-kill shelters. Have seen too many shelters overrun with dogs, with one local shelter even downgrading to a soy/wheat-middling bulk dogfood because they could no longer afford to feed their 200 animals even the cheapest Dog Chow kibble. Someone has to have the guts to say "no" every once in awhile.

http://www.amazon.com/Dog-Who-Spoke-...475553&sr=8-16

pugmom · 02-06-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by McSweeney

Just for the record, I love "Dogtown" and "Pitbulls & Parolees". One of my professional colleagues, a literary agent by the name of Jane Rotrosen, is one of the leading pit bull advocates on the East Coast. My beef is not with any specific breed, rather the blanket acceptance of all dogs into these no-kill shelters. Have seen too many shelters overrun with dogs, with one local shelter even downgrading to a soy/wheat-middling bulk dogfood because they could no longer afford to feed their 200 animals even the cheapest Dog Chow kibble. Someone has to have the guts to say "no" every once in awhile.

I agree there needs to be a middle road....I don't think that you can save every dog that comes into rescue/shelter..and this should be based on health and behavior...not on breed

You have extremist on both sides...you have some rescues/shelters that want to keep every dog ..on the other hand you have places like my local shelter that PTS any bully dog that comes though the door (after a 6 day waiting period)..no if, and, or buts...

zimandtakandgrrandmimi · 02-06-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by McSweeney

Just for the record, I love "Dogtown" and "Pitbulls & Parolees". One of my professional colleagues, a literary agent by the name of Jane Rotrosen, is one of the leading pit bull advocates on the East Coast. (And one of her authors, Diane Jessup, wrote a beautiful novel about the pit bull; see link below.) My beef is not with any specific breed, rather the blanket acceptance of all dogs into these no-kill shelters. Have seen too many shelters overrun with dogs, with one local shelter even downgrading to a soy/wheat-middling bulk dogfood because they could no longer afford to feed their 200 animals even the cheapest Dog Chow kibble. Someone has to have the guts to say "no" every once in awhile.

http://www.amazon.com/Dog-Who-Spoke-...475553&sr=8-16

that book is weird. and some of the stuff Jessup says about pits is kinda wooey at times. it doesnt add up.

just sayin..

Labsnothers · 02-06-2010, 04:51 PM

I am all for the humane and ethical treatment of animals. Unfortunately many organizations have names that sound good, but fail to live up to them.

HORSEandHOUND · 02-07-2010, 11:23 AM

How can you say HSUS is a great organization?
Next time you go to your local HS, ask them when the last time was they got funding from HSUS... they'll laugh. They are two separate entities

Don't believe me? Go google

GreatDaneMom · 02-07-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HORSEandHOUND

How can you say HSUS is a great organization?
Next time you go to your local HS, ask them when the last time was they got funding from HSUS... they'll laugh. They are two separate entities

Don't believe me? Go google

i wish that people would read through the whole thread before commenting....

we have gotten to this point and passed it already. he admitted he did not know and is looking into it....

as for the food- ugh.... i think its just bazaar anyone would consider feeding that to their dog....

Pai · 02-08-2010, 08:12 PM

I'll say it again -- if someone has ethical qualms about eating meat, THEY SHOULD NOT GET A CARNIVOROUS ANIMAL AS A PET and then cry about how 'cruel' it is to FEED THEM (and then want 'vegan' food to be made for them). That's simply ridiculous.

Binkalette · 02-08-2010, 08:30 PM

I work for the Humane Society in my town, and I can tell you, the HSUS has NOTHING to do with us. Nothing at all. Think we see a dime of all that money they collect to help the animals? Nope. Nada. Zilch.

Reacher · 02-12-2010, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pai

I'll say it again -- if someone has ethical qualms about eating meat, THEY SHOULD NOT GET A CARNIVOROUS ANIMAL AS A PET and then cry about how 'cruel' it is to FEED THEM (and then want 'vegan' food to be made for them). That's simply ridiculous.

I completely agree. If you want a Vegan pet, get a rodent or a bird. Humans are the only species that has ethical qualms about what they eat. The rest of the omnivores in the animal world eat whatever is available. It is indeed ridiculous to try and force a diet on an animal that has nothing to do with their natural diet.

Thanks for those giving information about HSUS, I would have made the assumption that they were one and the same as my local HS shelter. I will make sure that any donations I make are to the local shelter.

Labsnothers · 02-12-2010, 07:28 AM

The strongest argument against buying the food isn't the welfare of your dog, but avoiding funding their kooky agenda.

Darkmoon · 02-12-2010, 11:25 AM

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The strongest argument against buying the food isn't the welfare of your dog, but avoiding funding their kooky agenda.

I think this is the first thing I've ever agreed with you on to date...

Dog_Shrink · 02-12-2010, 12:33 PM

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This reminded me of a show called the Goode Family. The entire family where vegan's and they believed their dog absolutely loved being a vegan too....lets just say, a lot of neighbourhood squirrels went missing

THAT is too funny... poor squirrels

Pai · 02-15-2010, 01:34 PM

Terrierman made a great point on his blog on how this food is made by a no-name company in URUGUAY of all places, so how exactly is this a reputable product with quality control we can trust?

Enhasa · 02-15-2010, 01:40 PM

i honestly don't understand why would anyone feed their dog this....with the only exception being their dog is allergic to every possible meat protein source that is readily available.

Then again, there are OTHER much more reputation vegetarian foods available, such as natural balance.

I looked at their ingredients and this is basically chicken feed.......

Pai · 02-15-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Enhasa

i honestly don't understand why would anyone feed their dog this....with the only exception being their dog is allergic to every possible meat protein source that is readily available.

Then again, there are OTHER much more reputation vegetarian foods available, such as natural balance.

I looked at their ingredients and this is basically chicken feed.......

They also say you can't feed this to puppies... that just screams 'nutritionally deficient'.

Enhasa · 02-15-2010, 02:12 PM

honestly, if there is indeed a dog that is allergic to chicken, beef, pork, turkey and other meat sources, i would think that the next alternative will be vegetarian.
unless of course there is some way to prevent the allergic reactions from triggering....
then again, for a dog to be allergic to so many kinds of protein sources, what are the odds.

and regardless of whether allergic or not, i think this food is literally crap.

Labsnothers · 02-15-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Enhasa

i honestly don't understand why would anyone feed their dog this....with the only exception being their dog is allergic to every possible meat protein source that is readily available.

Those into the HSUS vegan agenda.

As for puppies, many high quality adult foods have too much calcium for puppies and are too rice in general.

Enhasa · 02-15-2010, 10:04 PM

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Those into the HSUS vegan agenda.

AKA Morons more than likely.....

by the way, will the dog actually die from eating this? won't it be lacking a lot of essential vitamins?

Labsnothers · 02-15-2010, 10:49 PM

Vitamins are often found in vegetables. I have no reason to think dogs won't do fine on it, I just don't like HSUS.

Pai · 02-16-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Enhasa

AKA Morons more than likely.....

by the way, will the dog actually die from eating this? won't it be lacking a lot of essential vitamins?

They admit right on their site that they didn't do a proper scientific feeding trial... so who knows.