[Michiyo-Fir]

Originally Posted by RBark

Kobe, at 90 pounds, eats ~400-500 calories a day of kibble (about 1 cup). Spicy has a couple dogs like that, where they eat on two different extremes.

Kobe only eats 400-500 calories a day?!?!?!? Nia at 6 lbs eats about 220! Wow that's really surprising!


To the OP. Have you tried to actually cut down a bit of his food and see if he loses weight? Some dogs can eat a lot but don't really need that much, they just poop it out instead of gaining a lot of weight.

[dieterherzog]

Originally Posted by Michiyo-Fir

Kobe only eats 400-500 calories a day?!?!?!? Nia at 6 lbs eats about 220! Wow that's really surprising!


To the OP. Have you tried to actually cut down a bit of his food and see if he loses weight? Some dogs can eat a lot but don't really need that much, they just poop it out instead of gaining a lot of weight.

That is very true - my dog just poops it all out, when he was on Orijen, he pooped a little too much because he had more than enough food he needed, so we cut it down and he was fine.

On raw, when we feed a little too much meat, he just poops it out, so it's always a good indicator if I'm feeding too much.

[luvamutt]

to be honest i have only tried liver. he does tolerate liver in small quantities so do give him very sm amts. i dont think i give him enough to count.i do not give him bones at evry meal but would love alt. to just marrow and rib bones. also any ideas for cooked and raw diet to add variety.i will continue to offer raw organs when on sale even if he ignores them. and thats the other thing about his large diet. he has pretty good self reg. when it comes to eating. he NEVER overeats. once i gave him an extra steak and he got one bite into it and asked to go out. that was so he could bury his bone. if i put too much in his bowl he just walks away from it even if it is raw steak on the bone. so i guess i just have a hungry active dog. just wanted to make sure i wasnt doing him any harm like with TOO much protein.(by the way) he only poops twice a day. rarely 3 times.

[Michiyo-Fir]

Originally Posted by dieterherzog

That is very true - my dog just poops it all out, when he was on Orijen, he pooped a little too much because he had more than enough food he needed, so we cut it down and he was fine.

On raw, when we feed a little too much meat, he just poops it out, so it's always a good indicator if I'm feeding too much.

I've just noticed the same thing with Nia too. She used to eat too much Orijen which made her poop at least 4 times a day. Now I've reduced her serving and she's only pooping twice a day on the clock.

[briteday]

I would keep trying small amounts each day with organs, expecially liver. If you do not achieve 10% of the diet being orgnas then I would start a good supplement.

[luvamutt]

i put wysongs call of the wild for fresh meat diet on his meat.it has liver and ground bone and stuff like kelp ans seaweed and phodsphorus. he gets a mutli vitamin a day with probiotics and evry other day a vitl. E let me know if this is ok or too much or not enough.i really appreciate evryones feed back and feel very comfy here. i measured out 3 days of food and cut back by 1/2 pound of meat per day. will see how that goes.so he has 2 weighed pounds of meat and 1 cup grains divided into 2 meals with sm. amt veg/fruit. mixed in which is small so i dont usually count . also i mentioned FATS before but noone addressed it. what percent of fat should he be getting a day for normal dog(since i have recently decided he may NOT be normal

[Kathyy]

I put one pound chicken meat, one pound raw beef and 2 cups of cooked quinoa into nutritiondata.com and really it looked like the zinc and iron requirements were covered. Copper, vitamin E and some of the B vitamins were low I think.

And 10% organ probably would only need to be for the normal feed, not the enormous amounts of meat your little canine furnace is going through. I would think one ounce of organ total is plenty. Half liver, half other.

I would look into the sort of thing working sled dogs eat. I am sure there are forums about feeding sled dogs. I know they eat a lot of fat but wouldn't want to speculate on how it is done as I do the opposite.

Really you could have blood tests done. It is possible there is a metabolic problem like thyroid. If not always good to have a baseline blood test.