[Michiyo-Fir]

I'm asking because Nia has eaten beef meals before and was perfectly fine. Last week I fed her 1 meal of aged beef and then in the middle of the the she had explosive diarrhea. She ended up having diarrhea for 3 days...

Could it have been the aged beef?

[phoebespeople]

I would look into what she got into 6 to 12 hours before the diarrhea as the culprit for causing the tummy troubles. Dogs are quite capable of eating high amounts of bacteria with no ill effects whatsoever. Meat would have to be visible rotton to have any chance of giving a healthy dog any problems.

[Michiyo-Fir]

Well she ate a meal of aged beef + liver + heart around 1 pm. Then she ate kibble at 10 pm. By 11 she was pooping all over my bathroom floor.

I'm sure she didn't get into anything because she was home the whole day and we were home as well. She never left our side.

Plus she's allergic to pork and would have diarrhea/throw up for 3 days even if she only ate a quarter sized bite.

[wolfsnaps]

My dogs have gotten deer RMBs that have been in the sun for a few days to the point the meat is dry and jerky like and they are ok. They also have eaten ground beef that has turned stinky and grey in my fridge.

Dogs (not mine that I know of, THANK GOD) eat POOP. But if your dog is getting the squirts, she might just have a more sensitive stomach and can not handle such things. Does she do ok on regular raw?

With absolutely no scientific research behind this, I THINK that when you condition your dogs to handle change, they do. They adapt. But if they get the same thing day in and day out, they have a harder time adjusting to new things.

Either way, make sure to see a vet if the runny poops continue for too long, I would be worried about dehydration.

Good luck

[Michiyo-Fir]

I think it's just really weird because she's eaten quite a lot of meals of beef before and she's fine. Lamb, duck, chicken, rabbit, all fine, liver, hearts she eats all perfectly fine. And I never even transitioned, I just threw it in there and she's fine. She's never had a problem switching foods and having diarrhea.

Unless that aged beef was actually pork.....there should've been absolutely no reason for her to have diarrhea.

That's why I'm puzzled. They don't age pork and put it there do they?? I wonder what was in the meat that made her have such bad diarrhea...

She's fine now and I fed her a raw meal today as well with lamb and beef (a different one, not the aged one) and I want to see if she has any reactions. I know she's not allergic to beef...

[Willowy]

The reason they age beef is because it makes the enzymes multiply and this makes the beef more tender (or something like that ). So maybe her tummy can't handle all those enzymes.

[Michiyo-Fir]

Maybe that's why... I have absolutely no idea. I was just shocked that she had such terrible diarrhea in the middle of the night. It's always gotta be in the middle of the night doesn't it?

[chrisn6104]

She went 10 hours before having an issue. You fed kibble an hour before the problem. Why would you think it's the beef and not the kibble?

[Michiyo-Fir]

Because she's been eating the same kibble for like 2 months now, no problem. Plus the meal that came out when I cleaned up in the morning was definitely the beef. She didn't poop out the kibble until around noon the next day and it was semi formed. Like soft but not squirts.

[chrisn6104]

I'm not a vet and I'm just throwing things out.
I do know for myself and watching my dogs behavior that food you eat now can cause a reaction down the line.
I feed my dogs and they immediately go out to poop. They are not pooping out what they just ate but what they just ate caused a reaction. Make sense?
Is it possible the kibble is causing a negative reaction with that particular beef after she eats it?
If you skipped the kibble and fed more beef would she still have the runs?
Maybe she just had a reaction that day to that beef or that beef/kibble combo.
It could also be that it is different beef. Sometimes it takes a few tries to get a dogs stomach used to a particular food.
Personally I would be looking at the kibble even though you've been feeding that for a longer period of time.

Think about when you go out and eat something that doesn't agree with your stomach and you're rushing to the toilet. You blame the food you just ate not the food you ate 10 hours earlier. There is an instant chain reaction that happens when you eat something that doesn't agree.

[Michiyo-Fir]

Could be. But I stopped the beef and fed kibble for the last few days, she was fine no diarrhea.

Yesterday I gave her a meal of a different beef source, none aged and she ate it fine, nice solid poop this morning. She ate kibble last night as well so no problems there with beef and kibble.

As far as I know, it WAS the aged beef because I've avoided it and fed combos of different meat/kibble, even other beef and kibble, no problems.

Plus every time she eats pork, she has extremely bad diarrhea between 8-16 hours after she eats it. This has already happened 3 times with pork so I'm certain in those cases it was the pork hours ago not whatever she ate right before the diarrhea incidents.

I'm not sure. Maybe when I feel confident enough I will try that aged beef again but I don't want to put up with 2-3 days of cleaning the floors again for a while! So for now I will avoid it.

[Wlfdg]

Michiyo-Fir, How much liver did you feed? Too much organ can create GI havoc.

[DobManiac]

Originally Posted by Wlfdg

Michiyo-Fir, How much liver did you feed? Too much organ can create GI havoc.

I was thinking that too. And some dogs are also sensitive to large amounts of heart or gizzards. Michiyo-Fir, didn't you say you fed heart with the meal as well?

[Michiyo-Fir]

Same amount as every other meal I've fed. A quarter sized piece with the thickness of...hmm...a magazine. Not the thick magazine, just the regular entertainment ones in the supermarket cashiers.

[michelleboston]

Lucky Nia to get aged beef I'm not feeding raw (yet) but give raw snacks from time to time, Bailey got sushi grade Bluefin tuna yesterday--it's nice to have fisherman friends Now if I only had a butcher or farmer friend...

[Michiyo-Fir]

Nia likes fish a lot =)

I'd love to know some hunter friends too! Then Nia can get some more exotic meat sources! Most of the stuff she gets now are just bought from the supermarket.

[RBark]

Originally Posted by Michiyo-Fir

Same amount as every other meal I've fed. A quarter sized piece with the thickness of...hmm...a magazine. Not the thick magazine, just the regular entertainment ones in the supermarket cashiers.

It doesnt look like you're feeding bone... you are giving her bone right? Just checking.

[Michiyo-Fir]

Originally Posted by RBark

It doesnt look like you're feeding bone... you are giving her bone right? Just checking.

Yup chicken bones because we got a load of cleaned off chicken with little meat left and almost all bone. We add a little bit of that into every one of her meat meals.

[RBark]

Originally Posted by Michiyo-Fir

Yup chicken bones because we got a load of cleaned off chicken with little meat left and almost all bone. We add a little bit of that into every one of her meat meals.

Hmm in any case, I would not feed the aged beef again. Dogs can eat just about anything, but while wild animals have the same digestive system as our dogs, our dogs don't have the same built up immunities and resistances an wild dog requires to be able to handle stuff. So some dogs might be more sensitive than others. That's likely all it is.

[Michiyo-Fir]

I miiiight try it again if I'm feeling daring lol. But probably not for a long time. Thanks for all the great advice everyone!