[BooLette]

Originally Posted by maquignon

I think brown rice is more nutritious than russet potatoes as shown on the protein digestibility rating below. The glycemic rating of brown rice (55) is much lower than that of russet potatoes (77).

This grain free marketing ploy is the best gimmick since since Royal Canin's different food for every dog breed. Grain free is not carbohydrate free as one of the more popular dog food rating sites mistakenly states. It is impossible to make an extruded dry food without carbohydrates and substituting an inferior carbohydrate (russet potatoes) for a better carbohydrate (brown rice) so that you can call it "grain free" does not make it better.

I am certainly interested in other opinions and welcome your comments as long as it's not that ridiculous "dogs didn't eat grains in the wild." I don't think they dug potatoes either and they are not even close to the same creatures today as they were in the wild.


Protein Ratings FOOD PROTEIN RATING
Eggs (whole) 100
Eggs (whites) 88
Chicken / Turkey 79
Fish 70
Lean Beef 69
Cow's Milk 60
Unpolished Rice 59
Brown Rice 57
White Rice 56
Peanuts 55
Peas 55
Whole Wheat 49
Soy beans 47
Whole-grain Wheat 44
Peanuts 43
Corn 36
Dry Beans 34
White Potato 34

I'm not arguing that I feel that brown rice is better for them than potatoes, BUT I am wondering if a dog with known allergies to certain grains is going to have a reaction to the brown rice or if it will in fact be beneficial to her. I'll never know if I don't try it on her, so... we shall see.

[Wlfdg]

Originally Posted by Easywolf

Dogs are actually omnivores, they eat some grass and berries in the wild.

Not enough to be considered an omnivore. They don't graze like bears do.

[canteloupe]

Originally Posted by Easywolf

Dogs are actually omnivores, they eat some grass and berries in the wild. I can't find any Blue Buffalo Wilderness in my area so I went with Regular Adult Orijen and mix in some other Orijen foods sometimes.

Wlfdg is right. Dogs are carnivores. Many carnivores eat some plant matter, but they're still carnivores because animal matter is the main part of their diet.

[Spicy1_VV]

I feed it and its worked for us.

I wouldn't worry about oatmeal if your dog is allergic to wheat, they are two different things.

I also wouldn't worry that it isn't grain free, as I've noticed the grain free foods just substitute potatoes instead.

You have to see what works best for your dog. Many dogs with allergies do fine on foods with oatmeal. Just as dogs with chicken allergy do fine on foods with other meat.

[Wlfdg]

Protein Ratings FOOD PROTEIN RATING

Unpolished Rice 59
Brown Rice 57
White Rice 56
Peanuts 55
Peas 55
Whole Wheat 49
Soy beans 47
Whole-grain Wheat 44
Peanuts 43
Corn 36
Dry Beans 34
White Potato 34

All of these are inferior sources of protein which lack necessary amino acid profiles to make them readily assimilated. They also contain lectins which are anti-nutrients. Lectins block the release of the hormone leptin which tells the brain to stop eating! They also block the absorption of Vit.D. There are a few other wonderful benefits to eating grains, legumes and tubers.

[BooLette]

Originally Posted by Spicy1_VV

I feed it and its worked for us.

I wouldn't worry about oatmeal if your dog is allergic to wheat, they are two different things.

I also wouldn't worry that it isn't grain free, as I've noticed the grain free foods just substitute potatoes instead.

You have to see what works best for your dog. Many dogs with allergies do fine on foods with oatmeal. Just as dogs with chicken allergy do fine on foods with other meat.

Very true. I'm just anxious about what I am feeding them... My husband thinks I'm crazy, but my shnauzer mix lost a LOT of weight when I went from Nutro Ultra to Beneful. (I didn't know any better) Now that I have put them on the Blue Wilderness she will sit down and eat until she is full. Before all she would eat was a few bites. I'm hoping that it helps with the TFTs food allergies and to put weight on Delilah. Lupin(aussie mix) doesn't care what he eats...as long as it's edible.

Originally Posted by Wlfdg

Protein Ratings FOOD PROTEIN RATING

Unpolished Rice 59
Brown Rice 57
White Rice 56
Peanuts 55
Peas 55
Whole Wheat 49
Soy beans 47
Whole-grain Wheat 44
Peanuts 43
Corn 36
Dry Beans 34
White Potato 34

All of these are inferior sources of protein which lack necessary amino acid profiles to make them readily assimilated. They also contain lectins which are anti-nutrients. Lectins block the release of the hormone leptin which tells the brain to stop eating! They also block the absorption of Vit.D. There are a few other wonderful benefits to eating grains, legumes and tubers.

At the risk of coming across as stupid:

What are you trying to tell me?

[Wlfdg]

Originally Posted by BooLette

At the risk of coming across as stupid:

What are you trying to tell me?

All of that is nutrient deficient waste that can actually cause a dog (or human) to eat too much.

[Jades_Mom]

Originally Posted by ZerotheHero3

Hey there! My dog absolutely loves Blue Wilderness and he does amazing on it! Just thought I'd share.

Do you think this food would 'soak' up to be soft and palatable? Would it be suitable for a small chihuahua? I have dogs that have no teeth and soak food for quite a number of them. I've had them on Cannidae but am quite unhappy with their stools lately. I'm not sure if they've changed the formula but my babies just are not doing well on it. I've got my cat on the BBW, and she loves it. Some foods soak better then others. Does anyone soak it before feeding it?

[ZerotheHero3]

Originally Posted by Jades_Mom

Do you think this food would 'soak' up to be soft and palatable? Would it be suitable for a small chihuahua? I have dogs that have no teeth and soak food for quite a number of them. I've had them on Cannidae but am quite unhappy with their stools lately. I'm not sure if they've changed the formula but my babies just are not doing well on it. I've got my cat on the BBW, and she loves it. Some foods soak better then others. Does anyone soak it before feeding it?

Yes you can soak it. I don't personally soak it for my dog but if my dog was toothless I probably would!

[Jades_Mom]

Originally Posted by ZerotheHero3

Yes you can soak it. I don't personally soak it for my dog but if my dog was toothless I probably would!

Thanks Zero! I've tried many of the foods mentioned on this forum with little qpproval from my dogs. I've got a little Cairn - BaileyRose (who doesn't have a tooth in her head) who turns her nose up at everything. I've never seen a dog who could walk over to a dish and actually make a 'face' at her food bowl. She eats enough, obviously, to stay healthy, but dinner time is such a 'dramatic' time for us. She makes it well known that this is not suitable cuisine for her. I would love to find just one thing that she would just dive into like there was no tomorrow. BTW...I feed and pick it up...and don't give treats in between...once in a blue moon, they'll get a treat, but they are far and in between...so I'm not spoiling appetites. Thanks again for your input!