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10-27-2009, 07:33 PM
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| Bad for dogs? I have never heard of this but I was reading a dog magazine today and it said that among other foods that are toxic (like avocados, grapes, chocolate, the usual) that turkey skin is included in that list?
Has anyone heard of this? And if so, do you know why?
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10-27-2009, 07:51 PM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfsnaps I have never heard of this but I was reading a dog magazine today and it said that among other foods that are toxic (like avocados, grapes, chocolate, the usual) that turkey skin is included in that list?
Has anyone heard of this? And if so, do you know why?
Thanks! | I think turkey skin has a higher proportion of fat than chicken skin and is tougher? Also, depending on the way it was raised, the skin often contains more hormones and fat since that's where manufacturers inject to "plump" up the bird. |
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10-27-2009, 10:57 PM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? I never heard of that. My stand is that almost anything you add to a dog's diet messes the careful balance if you are feeding a kibble.
As for magazine articles, you need to very careful of the source of the info, just like on the net. |
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10-28-2009, 01:37 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Labsnothers My stand is that almost anything you add to a dog's diet messes the careful balance if you are feeding a kibble. | Of course you do!
That's why all the Iditarod and Yukon Quest dogs are in such poor, unfit condition. Correct? If they just fed them crappy kibble those dogs would finish the races in a couple of days. Oh wait, they tried that in the first Iditarod and the dogs suffered without the addition of a lot of meat, fat and baited water. |
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10-28-2009, 01:42 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Labsnothers I never heard of that. My stand is that almost anything you add to a dog's diet messes the careful balance if you are feeding a kibble. | Oh yes, because all kibbles are so carefully balanced...
Why don't you just go ahead and post your whole pro-SD, pro-Purina agenda right now, and get it over with. |
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10-28-2009, 01:55 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Yeah didn't you know that adding fresh meat to a dog's kibble throws the corn ratio all outta whack.  |
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10-28-2009, 02:06 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? I dont know but the longer the list the less I can feed my dog apparently.
IMO and im no expert.. if Fido got a scrap of turkey, he may not flop over but if you keep giving it over a long time, then yes it could cause some issues. |
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10-28-2009, 07:30 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by nico8 Yeah didn't you know that adding fresh meat to a dog's kibble throws the corn ratio all outta whack.  | hahahaha!! |
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10-28-2009, 08:54 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Labsnothers I never heard of that. My stand is that almost anything you add to a dog's diet messes the careful balance if you are feeding a kibble.
As for magazine articles, you need to very careful of the source of the info, just like on the net. |
Your poor dogs. |
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10-28-2009, 09:24 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Labsnothers I never heard of that. My stand is that almost anything you add to a dog's diet messes the careful balance if you are feeding a kibble.
As for magazine articles, you need to very careful of the source of the info, just like on the net. | Quote:
Originally Posted by bully Your poor dogs. | That was my first thought after reading labsnothers' posts on here.  |
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10-28-2009, 10:05 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by nico8 Yeah didn't you know that adding fresh meat to a dog's kibble throws the corn ratio all outta whack.  | That's is seriously really damn funny.  |
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10-28-2009, 10:19 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Labsnothers I never heard of that. My stand is that almost anything you add to a dog's diet messes the careful balance if you are feeding a kibble.
As for magazine articles, you need to very careful of the source of the info, just like on the net. | See and hear I am treating my dogs like a garbage disposable. We don't throw away perfectly good food in this house.  |
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10-28-2009, 06:03 PM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Wlfdg Of course you do!
That's why all the Iditarod and Yukon Quest dogs are in such poor, unfit condition. Correct? If they just fed them crappy kibble those dogs would finish the races in a couple of days. Oh wait, they tried that in the first Iditarod and the dogs suffered without the addition of a lot of meat, fat and baited water. | What is baited water? Is that water with meat in it? Or vitamins?
I don't believe EVERYTHING I read of course, but I thought I would run it by my dog foodies on this site
I didn't really know but it didn't sound right. I used to do strictly raw and would feed them whole turkeys. They did fine with them.
By the way, the magazine was from Ceaser Milan. He has his own now. I read the different magazines at work on my break. I guess they meant because it is fatty, but I don't think it should be categorized with chocolate and the like.
And about the whole balance thing, I think if you over supplement them, you CAN upset the balance (depending on the supplement of course). However, I think it is good to offer dogs VARIETY. My dogs get kibble, raw (on seperate days) treats, supplements, you name it. They are all very different dogs (breed, age, and temperment) and they all seem to have iron guts so I must be doing something right. |
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10-28-2009, 06:38 PM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfsnaps What is baited water? Is that water with meat in it? Or vitamins?
| "When a team stays in a checkpoint for 6 hours, as is most often the case if a musher chooses to follow a 6-hour run rest schedule, the dogs will receive another brothy meal about an hour and a half before leaving. Typically this brothy concoction is a sloppy combination of meat scraps cooked in a lot of water. Some mushers refer to this as slurry or baited water. Baiting warm water with dry food, cooked fish, meat or garlic powder is a great way to encourage dogs to drink."
I was wondering the same thing...found this on www.iditarodblogs.com |
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10-28-2009, 07:29 PM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Avocados are very good for dogs, it's the pit and leaves that are
dangerous for the dogs, I was feeding natural balance sweet potato
and fish boy does that stuff stinks, I just put my dogs back on
Avoderm lamb and rice, very good food. |
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10-29-2009, 12:00 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? I thought avocado skin was toxic is large quantities as well? |
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10-29-2009, 12:03 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? The sled dogs need TONS of fat and more importantly water. But obviously they often don't want to drink as much as they need so a slurry mixture is fed to them with lots and lots of water to keep them hydrated. |
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10-29-2009, 12:23 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Michiyo-Fir The sled dogs need TONS of fat and more importantly water. But obviously they often don't want to drink as much as they need so a slurry mixture is fed to them with lots and lots of water to keep them hydrated. | I carry insulated bottles of warm stock and collapsible bowls in my backpack when we are backcountry snowboarding for my dogs so they drink enough water. They won't drink water alone. The stock they will slurp right down though  .
I also carry suet, bear or pork fat to snack them with. |
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10-29-2009, 02:03 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Wlfdg I carry insulated bottles of warm stock and collapsible bowls in my backpack when we are backcountry snowboarding for my dogs so they drink enough water. They won't drink water alone. The stock they will slurp right down though  .
I also carry suet, bear or pork fat to snack them with. | Lucky dogs! |
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10-29-2009, 09:21 AM
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| Re: Bad for dogs? Quote:
Originally Posted by Wlfdg I carry insulated bottles of warm stock and collapsible bowls in my backpack when we are backcountry snowboarding for my dogs so they drink enough water. They won't drink water alone. The stock they will slurp right down though  .
I also carry suet, bear or pork fat to snack them with. | Quote:
Originally Posted by canteloupe Lucky dogs! | I LOVE my boys! They're my buddies, my pals, my buckaroos.  |
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