[Ayanla]

*blushes*

Thanks for the compliments everyone.

[Labsnothers]

Originally Posted by canteloupe

Sure you have. Statements like this just reveal your real agenda, because there is no such thing as a food that every single dog, out of thousands, does well on.

At this point, I have come to the conclusion that either you are actually working for one of these companies, or you are deeply emotionally invested in believing that they are good foods because you can't allow yourself to acknowledge that you aren't giving your dogs the best.

I think it's interesting that you never responded to Ayanla's excellent posts on the kirkland puppy food thread. Here they are, again, in their entirety. Because, as RaeganW said, they're that good that you should read them twice. Or three times.

No that describes you and several others here, either a rep for somebody or too emotionally ties to the idea spending more on your dog benefits it. It seems you can't accept a different view. Pro Plan is the only food I have seen thousands of dogs that I knew were eating it. I have seen samples of dogs eating other common brands, and they look just as good.

I was having a life over the weekend and missed that Morris foundation post. Who are they? I have never heard of them. Who funds them? I will respond to it is its thread.

[Ayanla]

Originally Posted by Labsnothers

No that describes you and several others here, either a rep for somebody or too emotionally ties to the idea spending more on your dog benefits it. It seems you can't accept a different view. Pro Plan is the only food I have seen thousands of dogs that I knew were eating it. I have seen samples of dogs eating other common brands, and they look just as good.

I was having a life over the weekend and missed that Morris foundation post. Who are they? I have never heard of them. Who funds them? I will respond to it is its thread.

You should be happy with that source, since the Morris Animal Foundation was funded by proceeds of Hill's Science Diet sales up until the 1960's. The original founder of the Morris Animal Foundation and Hill's Packaging teamed up to create what later became the prescription line of Science Diet.

I'm sure the foundation maintains close ties with Hill's to this day.

I felt comfortable posting the survey anyway because, even if I assume that the Morris Animal Foundation is biased because of it's ties to Hill's, there's nothing to be gained by any particular diet maker in presenting the health facts of guide dogs without nutritional information, therefore it's reasonable to conclude that this survey is presented without bias. It states the data collected and the methods used to collect it.

[Wlfdg]

Labsnothers, I spend next to nothing for my dogs food. My dogs live on game meat/organs that I hunt, wild salmon that a friend gives me that he can't sell, free range beef/organs that I get for working on a friends ranch and dried up ewes that we buy for very little from local sheep herders. We spend less than $25.00 a month on EVO kibble that we supplement their diet with. We keep it just in case we aren't in position to feed raw. Which has happened when we had to stay at friends houses when the mountain pass closes due to avalanches.

Grains are garbage for all consumers! They even make ungulates and pigs develop unhealthy levels and types of adipose tissue. How can you believe that it's good to feed them to a carnivore?

[bully]

Originally Posted by Wlfdg

Labsnothers, I spend next to nothing for my dogs food. My dogs live on game meat/organs that I hunt, wild salmon that a friend gives me that he can't sell, free range beef/organs that I get for working on a friends ranch and dried up ewes that we buy for very little from local sheep herders. We spend less than $25.00 a month on EVO kibble that we supplement their diet with. We keep it just in case we aren't in position to feed raw. Which has happened when we had to stay at friends houses when the mountain pass closes due to avalanches.

Grains are garbage for all consumers! They even make ungulates and pigs develop unhealthy levels and types of adipose tissue. How can you believe that it's good to feed them to a carnivore?

Labsnothers whole argument is this: "They seem to survive on it" Which is extremely weak.

We all understand that animals (us included) can survive on junk.

[Labsnothers]

Bully, if you had any real arguments, you wouldn't have to distort what I say.

[bully]

Originally Posted by Labsnothers

Bully, if you had any real arguments, you wouldn't have to distort what I say.

I'm not - go read your posts

[canteloupe]

Originally Posted by Labsnothers

I was having a life over the weekend and missed that Morris foundation post. Who are they? I have never heard of them. Who funds them? I will respond to it is its thread.

Funny you should say that. You actually did post on that thread after Ayanla's posts, you just chose not respond to them.

Probably because you had nothing to say.

[nico8]

Originally Posted by canteloupe

Funny you should say that. You actually did post on that thread after Ayanla's posts, you just chose not respond to them.

Probably because you had nothing to say.

Raise your hand if you've noticed a pattern there...

[canteloupe]

Originally Posted by nico8

Raise your hand if you've noticed a pattern there...

Yeah, no kidding...

S/he still hasn't responded on that thread, despite saying s/he would now.

[Labsnothers]

I am still having other priorities and haven't seen that thread and haven't taken time to dig it up. Of course, I have no financial interest in any food.

[bully]

Originally Posted by Labsnothers

I am still having other priorities and haven't seen that thread and haven't taken time to dig it up. Of course, I have no financial interest in any food.

No interest of any kind in food, we know.

Why don't you invite the owner of the guide dog school on here? Maybe we can educate them and help the dogs directly.