Thinking about feeding raw?

Wimble Woof · 02-01-2007, 10:17 PM

Here are several of my favorite links for raw feeding information. Good places to start.
If anyone has any other links feel free to add them.

Raw links

http://www.njboxers.com/faqs.htm great beginners site.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/
great forum to join
More great sites.
http://members.shaw.ca/tamgarboxers/...ted_Links.html
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/sampleraw.htm
http://www.barfworld.com/
http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/he...ition_food.htm
http://rawfed.com/
http://www.rawdogranch.com/rawdietbasics.htm Follow the links on the lower left hand side of the site.

Prey model raw links
http://www.geocities.com/havens_home/feedraw.htm

Nacho · 02-07-2007, 11:50 AM

I just spent the last hour going through a couple of these links, very helpful.

Thank you

Forget kibble, just give meaty bones and offal and he'll be fine. Thanks again.

Wimble Woof · 03-21-2007, 04:12 PM

Just bumping it up...
If anyone has any other good links for raw ( either for or against) please add them,
Its important for people who are interested in starting up to hear both sides.

CrzyBritNAmerica · 03-21-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wimble Woof

Just bumping it up...
If anyone has any other good links for raw ( either for or against) please add them,
Its important for people who are interested in starting up to hear both sides.

Again thanks so much Wimble Woof!! You're so sweet!

Wimble Woof · 03-21-2007, 04:49 PM

Heres one of my favorite links to add to the cons of feeding raw list! I cant help but laugh my you know off! http://www.seefido.com/html/raw_dog_food_recipe.htm

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All ingredients should be washed adequately with soap and hot water and especially so in the case of meat, chicken or any other meat

All I can think of is " some one better get the memo out to the wolves and coyote on that one."
As someone who is considering raw, dont let these types of site completely discourage you, take for instance this part of the quote. "in the case of meat, chicken or any other meat" what are they trying to say there? Read carefully and fully understand what you're reading.

Another popular one that has been frequently brought to my attention.
http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/jan05/050115ww.asp
Great response to that article here.
http://www.rawlearning.com/responsetoAVMA1.html

As well I am posting another link (pro) and its definately a good read
http://www.dogo.org/Education/Raw_Diet.htm

CrzyBritNAmerica · 03-21-2007, 10:24 PM

So after pretty much reading through all these sites today...and having been looking into it for a little while I have gone out and got started with some RAW meat! I baggied it all up and put it in the freezer. Most of the sites said to go 'cold turkey' when starting so I fed her RAW tonight. I got her to eat a bit out of my hand, but she won't eat any out of the bowl!!

Some of the sites said that this may happen for a number of reasons and that I should just pick it up and refrigerate it and go with the tough love method until next meal time....is that what I have to do?

Ginny01OT · 03-22-2007, 07:29 AM

I left another message for you at anoter thread- but to add to that some people when they feed raw will add some brown rice to it (cooked) to make it more pallatible, other people go to the butcher and have a blend made. As I said I use the raw patties, which also come in one once medallions, you can go to the website and read their ingredients, etc. They also have a food locator tool and a "how much to feed" tool which you can also do in a percentage (for instance, 75% raw and 25% kibble or vice versa) it is very helpful. If you can get to a store I would suggest buying two bags of the medallions and just start feeding her one medallion a night and work your way up to one meal of raw/kibble and then eventually both meals. Because they add other things, which are really healthy like apple cider vinegar, salmon oil, eggs, ground bone etc. to their raw patty (see their ingredient mix) I think your dog may be more receptive. Keep in mind that the patty is 95% meat so the added ingredients so not sacrifice the value of the patty.

frogguruami · 03-22-2007, 10:35 AM

There is a rawfeeding Yahoo group that is a great source. I will add thought that they are anti kibble, anti grain and anti veggie. But an excellent source of knowledge and experience.

AM

thoreworld · 03-22-2007, 09:02 PM

Here is a video of an English Mastiff eating a whole chicken...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-OasV9LCxE

Tracy
www.epiphanymastiffs.com

CrzyBritNAmerica · 03-22-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thoreworld

Here is a video of an English Mastiff eating a whole chicken...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-OasV9LCxE

Tracy
www.epiphanymastiffs.com

That's so cool! I was practically doing cartwheels when she ate chicken today! And that is a freaking gorgeous dog!!!

Shalva · 03-24-2007, 10:24 AM

I feed all five of mine raw and have for the past 6+ years..... I feed my pregnant girls raw and the pups are weaned onto raw..... I use kibble occasionally for training treats and a few years back we went to the FCR national specialty show in canada and I couldn't figure out how to bring enough raw food for two weeks for four dogs across the border so I got them kibble..... my dogs loved it.... they thought I had lost my mind and filled their bowls with treats..... it was like the kids going to mcdonalds...... figured two weeks wouldn't kill them... got home and straight back onto a regular raw diet..... I tried honest kitchen but a couple of my dogs hate the stuff......
gonna have to give some thought to how to handle the cross border stuff a bit better.
s

Ginny01OT · 03-24-2007, 04:55 PM

that is exactly why I give my dog some kibble with the raw--sometimes it is very difficult to pack enough (heaven help us if our spare freezer every pooped out)

CoverTune · 03-24-2007, 07:32 PM

Wow, thanks so much for all the links! I'm only on the first one, lol, but have been trying to read up on "natural feeding" as much as possible. I'll be getting my puppy home in a few weeks and definately think I would like to feed raw, but I'm thinking something more along the lines of the pre-made stuff, like the Nature's Variety. I'm trying to figure out how long it would last my dog, how it compares in price to regular kibble, and how practical it would be for travel as I can't imagine switching back and forth to kibble (for trips) would be very good for the dog's system.

Ginny01OT · 03-24-2007, 08:15 PM

Nature's Variety has a website: naturesvariety.com At the top you will see a tool that helps you decide how much to feed your pup/dog. You will put in canine, you will put in their approx weight and you will put in their activity level (which for you will probably be puppy less than 80% adult weight)--you will see it and put in what is best. Then you will put in a percentage of food, if you are doing 100% raw then that is what you put in--if you are doing 75% raw and 25% kibble then you put that in and then put in what type of kibble (chicken, lamb, beef, etc). On the right side it will the give you a guestimate of how much food you will feed your dog. I do about 80% raw, 20% kibble so I just adjusted it myself. It helps.

cshellenberger · 03-25-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thoreworld

Here is a video of an English Mastiff eating a whole chicken...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-OasV9LCxE

Tracy
www.epiphanymastiffs.com

Tracy,
Is that one of yours? He's a true beauty!!! I lost my big guy six weeks ago.

***NV*** · 03-26-2007, 04:44 AM

Nature's Variety is great, I had my dog on there dry kibble Salmon and brown rice for a while before I switched her to Raw and she did well on it. What I have learned is it is so much cheaper to by raw from butcher store, rather than buying it in the pet store. Just putting it out there.

Ginny01OT · 03-26-2007, 06:37 AM

Well one butcher store here only sells a beef variety and I think it is .99 a poind the other butcher store (these are one that specialize in raw mixes for dogs) has for about $2.99 which is close to the Nature's Variety. The problem none of these butcher stores and the place where I get the nature's variety are very close. I have to trek with my cooler and make a good 1/2 day of it.

thoreworld · 03-26-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cshellenberger

Tracy,
Is that one of yours? He's a true beauty!!! I lost my big guy six weeks ago.

Yes, that's our Diesel. He just turned 7. Here's one of him eating a pork butt...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ5Ql6G5T9k

Tracy
www.epiphanymastiffs.com

CrzyBritNAmerica · 03-26-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thoreworld

Yes, that's our Diesel. He just turned 7. Here's one of him eating a pork butt...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ5Ql6G5T9k

Tracy
www.epiphanymastiffs.com

You have gorgeous dogs!!

Wimble Woof · 03-26-2007, 05:10 PM

As far as pre made raw, its up to you, however, it is going to end up costing considerably more than shopping sales.
For example, last week I went out and baught whole chickens because they were 0.99/lb and Istopped by the pet store to look for some rabbit meat ( to try the dogs out on rabbit before I order a bunch of meat rabbits) but they only had chicken.
2lbs of premade ground chicken was $3.99 plus all of canadas wonderful taxes.
where as 2lbs of whole chicken that my dogs could clean their teeth on costed just under $2.00
Sure its just $1.99 but that is one meal for one of the dogs here. If I can save $2 per meal, im glad to do it. ( and that $2 was a whole other meal for Kita gurl)
But as I said it's completely up to you.