[4dogs3cats]

Kody threw up his chicken last night.

It was all chewed, do I know he wasn't like scarfing it down.

It got covered in ants, so I washed it off and brought it over to the patio.. as much as I could because like I said it was chewed, but he refused to eat it.

I didnt make him. So he ate maybe half of it last night, but is this an issue? Or is this normal. There was nothing else in it so I know he didnt get into any kibble, (I brought it all to my moms anyway to avoid any accidents,) but I was figuring he is still getting used to it.

Should I be worried, or should I just expect him to be a little hungrier tonight?

[RBark]

Regurging the food is normal and typically they re-eat it.

But I'd just feed him one as normal, see how it goes.

[briteday]

It might just be a one time thing. And I still think it's a good idea to split the daily ration into two meals. Especially if the dog vomited his meal last night I would have offered a small meal this morning at the very least.

If this reoccurs then I would consider a few things...could the dog be sensitive to chicken? Although most of consider chicken to be the jumping off point for raw feeding some dogs do not do well with it. Second, if you are feeding enhanced chicken try finding some un-enhanced and see if that works. My dogs won't touch salted chicken or holiday turkeys that come basted (unfortunately usually those are the ones the groceries "give" away at the holidays and my dogs won't eat them!).

Hopefully this is just a blip in the radar and your dog is definitely in the adjsut ment phase so nothing can be determined from a one shot occurrence.

Keep us posted.

[wolfsnaps]

Remember too, your dogs are new to this. A drastic change in diet can affect a dog's stomache. Just stay calm and continue feeding raw. It may take a little while for their stomaches to get used to the change (just like when you change kibble with a sensitive dog, vomitting is typical). As long as he isn't vomitting up his own blood or something, I wouldn't worry. If my dog did that, and it was outside, I would leave it there and give my dog the option to try again. If it gets really gross, just offer new food. Dogs will eat their vomit but I too wouldn't MAKE them

Good luck, don't get discouraged, and let us know what happens!

[4dogs3cats]

Originally Posted by RBark

Regurging the food is normal and typically they re-eat it.

But I'd just feed him one as normal, see how it goes.

Ok sounds good. I figured it was normal, but it's been like a week since we have started I didn't think it would happen now!

Originally Posted by briteday

It might just be a one time thing. And I still think it's a good idea to split the daily ration into two meals. Especially if the dog vomited his meal last night I would have offered a small meal this morning at the very least.

If this reoccurs then I would consider a few things...could the dog be sensitive to chicken? Although most of consider chicken to be the jumping off point for raw feeding some dogs do not do well with it. Second, if you are feeding enhanced chicken try finding some un-enhanced and see if that works. My dogs won't touch salted chicken or holiday turkeys that come basted (unfortunately usually those are the ones the groceries "give" away at the holidays and my dogs won't eat them!).

Hopefully this is just a blip in the radar and your dog is definitely in the adjsut ment phase so nothing can be determined from a one shot occurrence.

Keep us posted.

I know I should probably split it.. the dogs were on one meal a day with kibble, and they are getting such small amounts of chicken it's too hard for me to split it up! Also I leave my house at different times on different days and I didn't want to be inconsistent.

Bailey and Chance are fine, but kody took a little while to get used to the chicken. I know he chewed it all, because it was in small mushy pieces when I tried to pick it up... How do you split a drunkstick that is 8 ounces into 2 4 ounce pieces?

Also- I know I cannot feed kibble treats. Is there any kind of treat I can get for them for when I leave the house? They are so used to sitting by the door, me giving them a treat, and them laying down. I feel terrible when I leave them empty handed. Even chopping up some meat and keeping it in the fridge, or some cheese.. or some moist treats.. anything you guys use that is okay with the raw?

Originally Posted by wolfsnaps

Remember too, your dogs are new to this. A drastic change in diet can affect a dog's stomache. Just stay calm and continue feeding raw. It may take a little while for their stomaches to get used to the change (just like when you change kibble with a sensitive dog, vomitting is typical). As long as he isn't vomitting up his own blood or something, I wouldn't worry. If my dog did that, and it was outside, I would leave it there and give my dog the option to try again. If it gets really gross, just offer new food. Dogs will eat their vomit but I too wouldn't MAKE them

Good luck, don't get discouraged, and let us know what happens!

I cant just leave it there too long, we have ants like crazy and they go nuts on raw meat! I rinsed it off and he wouldnt touch it, but Chance finished it.

[RBark]

Ok sounds good. I figured it was normal, but it's been like a week since we have started I didn't think it would happen now!

Ollie still regurges sometimes and he's been eating raw for months. It's a normal part of raw feeding. Some dogs never do it, others do it more frequently. But it's not something that goes away as they get used to it. They may never do it to begin with, or do it one or two times and then never do it again, or they may do it occassionally forever.

All depends on the dog.

[4dogs3cats]

Ok thanks, good to know! I'll keep any eye on him

[briteday]

Treats...anything that you could/would normally feed them. For mine it would be a piece of dried up, left over cheese (not moldy though). Or a bit of turkey low salt hot dog, slice of apple, peanut butter spread on a favorite toy, a liver cube (partially freeze liver so that it is easier to slice, cut into 1/2" cubes, boil for 3-5 minutes, bake in oven 350 degrees for 30 minutes or until pretty dry), ...

[4dogs3cats]

Oh okay. Just not anything kibble. Gotcha.

I'll get some hot dogs and give them each a tiny piece... theyre just so used to getting SOMETHING when I leave every morning lol.

[Criosphynx]

two of my dogs puked up bones only at first, and only one time each so far.

I find it interesting that people don't mention this often or at all when they are promoting raw diet to new people, i think its something people should be made aware of before starting, i know personally i wasn't happy to find out that puking was "normal", but im used to gross things and in the end it was no big deal.

We can clean up our dog puke together it will be fun.

[RawFedDogs]

Originally Posted by 4dogs3cats

Kody threw up his chicken last night.

It was all chewed, do I know he wasn't like scarfing it down.

It's not a big deal. I suspect it's just his system learning to digest a new food. You see, kibble demands less acidic stomach juices than does a natural diet of raw meat and bones. When humans eat a lot of carbs even our stomach juices loose some acidity until we eat some meat again. Give him a few days for his stomach juices to adjust and I think he will be ok.

Are you feeding whole drumsticks or are you grinding them?

[4dogs3cats]

Originally Posted by Criosphynx

two of my dogs puked up bones only at first, and only one time each so far.

I find it interesting that people don't mention this often or at all when they are promoting raw diet to new people, i think its something people should be made aware of before starting, i know personally i wasn't happy to find out that puking was "normal", but im used to gross things and in the end it was no big deal.

We can clean up our dog puke together it will be fun.

YAY! Sorry.. I didnt take pics! lol

Originally Posted by RawFedDogs

It's not a big deal. I suspect it's just his system learning to digest a new food. You see, kibble demands less acidic stomach juices than does a natural diet of raw meat and bones. When humans eat a lot of carbs even our stomach juices loose some acidity until we eat some meat again. Give him a few days for his stomach juices to adjust and I think he will be ok.

Are you feeding whole drumsticks or are you grinding them?

Whole. could he maybe not be chewing them quite enough? There werent any bones, just chicken

[RawFedDogs]

Originally Posted by 4dogs3cats

Whole. could he maybe not be chewing them quite enough? There werent any bones, just chicken

Hehe, if it's whole it has bone. LOL You should feed him bone also. I suggest giving him the whole drumstick as it comes off the chicken. He probably won't eat the whole bone but bone is a necessary part of the diet. Don't worry, he can handle it.

Also about chewing ... dog's don't chew in the same way we do. We are omnivores and as such, we chew our food into a mush before swallowing. Dogs, being carnivores, only rib and tear off pieces of meat small enough to fit down their throat. They will crunch bone just small enough to fit down their throat. Amazingly large pieces will go down ok. Forget the term "chewed enough" because that not part of the dogs behavior. If it made it to the stomach, it was chewed enough.

What you saw was partially digested meat. I suspect the meal was a little large and he digested what he could and returned the rest. Also, when the food is too easy to eat, such as meat without bone, the dog swallows it before the stomach can prepare itself to receive the food. By preparing itself, I mean produce acidic enough stomach juices to properly digest.

Again, none of this is a big deal. Hand the dog a drumstick and let him take care of it. In the beginning he will be real slow but soon he will develop a method to quickly dispatch of a drumstick.

To Criosphynx:
It's not really common for newly switched dogs to throw up. It is usually caused by operator error by the feeder, not the feedee. Too much food will cause vomiting as will food eaten too quickly as mentioned above. Give the dog a good raw meaty bone such as a drumstick in the case of this little dog or a chicken back or leg quarter for larger dogs, stand back, and let the dog eat and problems usually won't happen.

Meals heavy in bone are important in the first weeks of raw feeding. Bones help prevent a lot of problems.

[4dogs3cats]

It was whole but there was no bone in the throw up. I do give them the entire drumstick.

[Criosphynx]

Originally Posted by RawFedDogs

Hehe, if it's whole it has bone. LOL You should feed him bone also. I suggest giving him the whole drumstick as it comes off the chicken. He probably won't eat the whole bone but bone is a necessary part of the diet. Don't worry, he can handle it.

Also about chewing ... dog's don't chew in the same way we do. We are omnivores and as such, we chew our food into a mush before swallowing. Dogs, being carnivores, only rib and tear off pieces of meat small enough to fit down their throat. They will crunch bone just small enough to fit down their throat. Amazingly large pieces will go down ok. Forget the term "chewed enough" because that not part of the dogs behavior. If it made it to the stomach, it was chewed enough.

What you saw was partially digested meat. I suspect the meal was a little large and he digested what he could and returned the rest. Also, when the food is too easy to eat, such as meat without bone, the dog swallows it before the stomach can prepare itself to receive the food. By preparing itself, I mean produce acidic enough stomach juices to properly digest.

Again, none of this is a big deal. Hand the dog a drumstick and let him take care of it. In the beginning he will be real slow but soon he will develop a method to quickly dispatch of a drumstick.

To Criosphynx:
It's not really common for newly switched dogs to throw up. It is usually caused by operator error by the feeder, not the feedee. Too much food will cause vomiting as will food eaten too quickly as mentioned above. Give the dog a good raw meaty bone such as a drumstick in the case of this little dog or a chicken back or leg quarter for larger dogs, stand back, and let the dog eat and problems usually won't happen.

Meals heavy in bone are important in the first weeks of raw feeding. Bones help prevent a lot of problems.

whats funny is it happend with "snacks".
The first Time was one pigs foot for a 27lb dog. The second time was two chicken wings for a 25lb dog. Both times it happened more than 8 hours later. There was NO meat in the vomit. Just bone. Small chewed up bone.
I googled it and people are calling it "detox?" Either way it hasn't happend again with larger portions.

[4dogs3cats]

Oh and also to add- it was an 8 ounce drumstick. He weighs 33 lbs. It was actually 4 ounces LESS than I gave him the day before.

shrugs

[RawFedDogs]

Originally Posted by 4dogs3cats

Oh and also to add- it was an 8 ounce drumstick. He weighs 33 lbs. It was actually 4 ounces LESS than I gave him the day before.

OHHHHHHH!!!!! ...... nevermind. ........................... keep doing what you are doing and stay with the smaller drumsticks for now when available. It'll work itself out.

[4dogs3cats]

Thats what I figured

[My Mutt]

Have you tried giving him stewing beef? My dog works well on that also. I switch up between stewing beef or other cheaper cuts of beef and the chicken. I find chicken backs work really well also. Sometimes she gets fish.