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09-21-2007, 11:29 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Central PA
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| Food Switch I think I've fiannly talked my wife into switching to a premium food for our girls. Here's my question though. Chewy is 50 pounds (skinny as a rail), and Dasiy is 78 (lil husky  ). I would really like to be able to do one big monster bag of Chicken Soup. Daisy has been on weight management food for about a year, and gets a full cup less than Chewy, but we really haven't seen a big change (I'm sure the peanut butter and yogurt Kongs aren't helping). Is the weight management stuff worth it? Or Can I get by with 1 Mega bag of the Chicken Soup Large Breed formula? And I think when Sandy comes off of puppy food, I'll be able to feed all three the same thing. Won't it be nive to walk out of the pet store with only one huge bag of dog-food?
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09-21-2007, 11:51 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: somewhere over the rainbow
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| Re: Food Switch Sounds good in theory. LOL I would like to only have to have one type too. I do now that the puppy is gone at least until I get another puppy/dog. The pet food warehouse where I get my food said the Senior dog has less cal but still has the added help for the joints like the large breed. It is the only difference from the weight control. Sounds, however, like your skinny one might need the added calories and going with the large breed adult and just feeding less for chubby might be the way to go for you. I love the Chicken Soup food. I mean I have never tasted it. LOL My dogs sure love it. Their coats look wonderful and feeding the premium foods does not cost as much as one thinks. You feed a lot less of it to maintain weight. You get smaller land minds in the back yard too. It does take a few bags for body to adjust to it though. |
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09-21-2007, 11:56 AM
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| Re: Food Switch Yeah. We're really disappointed with Chewy's coat. Our golden, I think you could feed her corn on the cobb every day, and her coat still looks good. But chewy used to have such a shiny, beautiful coat. The fur on her tail was probably about 6 inches long, and looked like a plume. It was gogeous. Her hair is considerably shorter and dull now. The vet attributed a lot of this to stress (Sandy figured out she's as big as Chewy, so the chew toy has become the chewer...and Chewy just kind of lets it happen). And smaller land mines is definately not a bad thing. |
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09-21-2007, 02:39 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The "Thumb" of Michigan
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| Re: Food Switch Quote:
Originally Posted by the-tenth And smaller land mines is definately not a bad thing. | I had my dog on Chicken Soup and her little land mines sort of turn to ash and go away (the ones I miss when land mine hunting) after a few weeks. Not that I'm super interested in the decay of poop, but it amazed me. I was ignorant to good dog foods w/ my past dogs, so they got the Purina junk and talk about causing land mines! Heck, those turds could last through the winter and come out in spring in exactly the same shape!!! |
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09-21-2007, 07:05 PM
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| Re: Food Switch Quote:
Originally Posted by melvs Heck, those turds could last through the winter and come out in spring in exactly the same shape!!! | Hahahaha. That's good stuff. |
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09-21-2007, 11:08 PM
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| Re: Food Switch Eating less is definatly what will happen. Lily used to get 1/2 a cup per day of Nutro, now she eats 1/8 a cup per day of Felidae (feline Canidae). Now I think its worth the extra $1-$2 when you pay, I will just wait longer before I have to buy another bag! |
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09-24-2007, 01:20 PM
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| Re: Food Switch i was really wondering about Chicken Soup. ive been to the site and all, but i didnt know anyone who fed it. Im glad to hear the positive remarks. How do your dogs enjoy it? do they seem to like it a lot? Chloe is almost at the bottom of her bag, and now that her HOD is under control, i want to switch her food. i was considering Chicken Soup, but like i said, i didnt know anyone who fed it. |
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09-25-2007, 06:27 AM
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| Re: Food Switch I feed Vedo Chicken Soup....he seems to do well on it. It is made by Diamond Foods Company, which did produce products which were recalled....so I am a litter worried about that. |
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09-25-2007, 07:13 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The "Thumb" of Michigan
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| Re: Food Switch Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatDaneMom i was really wondering about Chicken Soup. ive been to the site and all, but i didnt know anyone who fed it. Im glad to hear the positive remarks. How do your dogs enjoy it? do they seem to like it a lot? Chloe is almost at the bottom of her bag, and now that her HOD is under control, i want to switch her food. i was considering Chicken Soup, but like i said, i didnt know anyone who fed it. | My pup, Lilly, really loves the taste of it. She's never shown any signs of it upsetting her stomach or anything. She might let out a good burp afterwards, but that's not bad manners, just good food.  |
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09-25-2007, 07:27 AM
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| Re: Food Switch Beavis would Chicken Soup two thumbs up. If he had opposable thumbs. |
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09-25-2007, 09:26 AM
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Join Date: May 2007 Location: Garland, Texas
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| Re: Food Switch I think you could get away with feeding the two adults the same food, just adjust the quantities to suit them. You have to remember that the weight loss food they make typically has more fiber and a little less fat in the overall makeup, you can check the labels and compare. If you can find out what Daisy was getting calorie wise from her current/previous?? food you can probably figure out how much to give her of the new food. Another thing to keep in mind is that when you are trying to get any dog to lose weight by cutting calories they are going to feel a bit hungry in the process of starting to burn stored fat. So you might feed her 2 to 3 meals a day, splitting her daily total into several meals that will help her feel less empty. You can also give her "filler" snacks that will make her feel full that are healthy like carrots or apples (no seeds), but remember that she will get some calories from them so don't overdo it by giving her a barrel full, lol. For the most part I have noticed that when Blondie eats carrots they come out whole in her stool, so I'm not convinced they can break down vegetable matter very well unless it's altered (pureed or previously frozen). What food are you currently feeding? I'm not going to judge you, going to look up the analysis for it. |
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09-25-2007, 12:11 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Central PA
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| Re: Food Switch shhhhhhhhhhh don't tell. Beneful for the bigguns (Healthy Radiance for Chewy and Weight Management for Daisy)... HEY DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE VEGETABLES RAINING FROM THE SKY ON THE BAG! I bought into the hype  . And Iams large breed for Sandy. Somebody told me recently, that Iams used to have a lot better ingredients, but subbed fillers in so Wal-Marts and such would start carrying it. Any truth to that? ANyhoo. Well getting back to walking regularly will help too. Since fracturing my ankle, then followed by a Nasty spell with arthritis (sound a llot older than 35 eh?), they haven't been walked like they should. ANd wifey can't walk all 3, so basically has to pick one for her, and the puppy for my step-daughter to walk.
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09-25-2007, 05:30 PM
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#13 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Garland, Texas
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| Re: Food Switch The calories per cup is the same, the protein % is the same, but the fat and fiber %'s are different (pasted ingred. list to both below). 5% less fat and 5% more fiber (in the form of soybean hulls). Have you checked out the dog food project? It has all kinds of foods and their ingredient lists on one website for your browsing  (link at bottom of page). If it were me, I would start Daisy out on the recommended amount for the new food, and then alter accordingly. If she starts to put on a little bit of padding, slowly decrease her meal sizes, nothing drastic. There's nothing wrong with giving her the same food, only giving her smaller quantities, unless she has health problems and needs a special diet. You might be surprised by what happens if you switch them to a food that doesn't have any corn, wheat, or soy in it.
My belief is that you can feed your dog whatever you want, as long as it's really edible. But, I do prefer a person to make an informed decision about the food choice and not rely solely on some invisible authority figure to decide for them. Weight Formula
Ingredients:
Ground yellow corn, chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, soybean hulls*, whole wheat flour, rice flour, chicken, soy flour, beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), sugar, animal digest, tricalcium phosphate, sorbitol, water, salt, phosphoric acid, potassium chloride, dicalcium phosphate, sorbic acid (a preservative), L-Lysine monohydrochloride, dried green beans, dried carrots, calcium carbonate, calcium propionate (a preservative), choline chloride, vitamin supplements (E, A, B-12, D-3), zinc sulfate, added color (Yellow 5, Red 40, Yellow 6, Blue 2), DL-Methionine, ferrous sulfate, glyceryl monostearate, manganese sulfate, niacin, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, biotin, thiamine mononitrate, copper sulfate, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, sodium selenite *14% - a source of fiber
Guaranteed Analysis
Protein: 25%
Fat: 7%
Fiber: 9%
Moisture: 14%
Calories
306 Kcal/cup Healthy Radiance
Ingredients:
Ground yellow corn, chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, whole wheat flour, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), salmon, brewers rice, soybean meal, sugar, sorbitol, tricalcium phosphate, soybean oil, animal digest, water, salt, phosphoric acid, potassium chloride, dicalcium phosphate, sorbic acid (a preservative), L-Lysine monohydrochloride, dried carrots, calcium carbonate, green beans, calcium propionate (a preservative), choline chloride, Vitamin E supplement, added color (Yellow 5, Red 40, Yellow 6, Blue 2), DL-Methionine, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, Vitamin A supplement, manganese sulfate, niacin, Vitamin B-12 supplement, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, copper sulfate, biotin, garlic oil, thiamine hydrochloride, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, sodium selenite
Guaranteed Analysis
Protein: 25%
Fat: 12%
Fiber: 4%
Moisture: 14%
Calories
306 Kcal/cup http://forums.dogfoodproject.com/pos...dogfood&page=1 - Dog food brands ingredient lists http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/ - Dog food reviews
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