[starry15]

Our vet said that we should put in egg in his diet. It will help his coat for winter. But our vet was in a bad car accident and is out and I dont know who to ask. So im asking y'all.

Do I give him the egg Raw or cooked?

[briteday]

Doesn't matter, you can serve them either way. My dogs are on a raw diet of meat and they get a raw egg, whole....shell and all (my littlest one prefers hers to go thru the blender first!), at least once/week.

Before we went to raw we used to scramble an egg for each animal every Sunday morning while doing our own.

[lovemygreys]

We give them raw. Some eat the shell, some don't. The shell will pass through them undigested. Ours love frozen raw eggs as a treat on hot days

[starry15]

Thanks for the replies. I am gonna cook it for him. I tried to give him the raw but he wouldn't take it. So he will get cooked in the microwave.

[bluesbarby]

I mix the raw egg in with Riley's kibble once a week. He also gets a spoonful of pumpkin with each meal.

[Jr. Dog Expert]

All you guys plz tell me that when you say "raw" you don't mean like straight out of the fridge......

Because if thats the case you guys should be aware that some eggs contain samonella viruses (or is it bacteria?) and that they can only be killed with heat, its a very serious illness it can kill a person in a matter of time, if they don't get medical help right away. Even heating the egg a little can kill the virus (or bacteria). Well anyway this is what i was told and i'm letting you know, im not 100% sure if that is the whole truth, but i wouldn't risk it anyway.

[FilleBelle]

I always roll my eyes when I hear the raw egg with salmonella story. It is, of course, true. There is a risk of salmonella poisoning from raw eggs. But I gotta tell you that I've been eating cookie dough for most of my 24 years and have never had a problem, lol.

Ever heard of the fox in the hen house? He was there for raw eggs

[dog08]

cooked food. i dont want my deg getting use to eating raw food. it might eat smaller animals around

[poodleholic]

It's a personal preferance, but if you're going to feed the shell, please pulverize it (I place them between a dishtowel and crush into powder using a rolling pin).

[Jr. Dog Expert]

Originally Posted by FilleBelle

I always roll my eyes when I hear the raw egg with salmonella story. It is, of course, true. There is a risk of salmonella poisoning from raw eggs. But I gotta tell you that I've been eating cookie dough for most of my 24 years and have never had a problem, lol.

Ever heard of the fox in the hen house? He was there for raw eggs

Yup keep rolling them.LOL. That question came up in the discussion that we were having with my professor but did you know that cookie dough isn't made the same way it was made before? The raw egg is heat slightly, to kill any bacteria then its used for cookie dough. So i would still be very suspicious of the raw egg, but i have no problem or worries at all about eating a whole bucket of cookie dough! LOL!

LOL, so 24 yrs of eating cookie dough? well i hope you don't eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner, cuz then i'd worried about you.ROFL.

[Renoman]

My guys get eggs fairly often. Usually cooked - no particular reason - it just happens that way - probably because I'm cooking anyway -

One thing about the shells though, I do crush them into a fine powder and add it to their food.

[nlkeple]

I give my little pomeranian raw egg in her food every now and then and I give her pumpkin (plain not the pie filling)all the time, sometimes I cook the egg but she usually gets it raw. As for the salmonella, yes it is a possibility, but if the eggs come from a good source, and are stored properly and kept cold the risk is very minor. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture Food Safety and Inspection Service
<http://www.fsis.usda.gov/ophs/risk/>
there are an average of 46.8 Billion eggs produced for the US per year. Of those 2.3 million contain salmonella. Now I know that 2.3 million is a lot BUT if take the time to do the math it is something like .049%, which mean 4.9 eggs out of every 10,000 eggs have salmonella(it has been a long time since I was in a math class so check it yourself). My Mother in Law is a doctor (a people doctor not a vet) and they put a raw egg in every time they make milkshakes (for people not pups), I let my kids drink them that way and when we make shakes at home I usually crack an egg in as well. Everyone has to weigh the risks for themselves, but personally I let my 2 year old drink shakes with a raw egg in it. With a .049% risk I have bigger things to worry about.

[GreatDaneMom]

Raw egg whites contain a protein called avidin, which can deplete your dog of biotin, one of the B vitamins. Biotin is essential to your dog’s growth and coat health. The lack of it can cause hair loss, weakness, growth retardation, or skeleton deformity. Raw egg yolks contain enough biotin to prevent the deficiency, so this is not a problem with raw whole eggs. If youre just feeding the whites though, cook them. As long as it is the whole egg, youre fine!

[the-tenth]

Originally Posted by nlkeple

My Mother in Law is a doctor (a people doctor not a vet) and they put a raw egg in every time they make milkshakes (for people not pups), I let my kids drink them that way and when we make shakes at home I usually crack an egg in as well.

Ew. I'm not saying that I wouldn't do it for health reasons, but a raw egg in a milkshake? Never heard of that.

[nlkeple]

You actually can't taste it at all. 1 egg for a blender full of shakes. It actually improves the texture of the shakes.

[anneh]

I have been putting a raw egg yolk on my dogs food for over 40 years especially when I used to feed kibble at which time it was daily. Now that they are on a fresh mostly raw diet they get the egg about once a week or more. I only use organic eggs. We have never had a sick dog from doing it I think its good either way but if your dog is getting an otherwise all cooked diet the addition of a raw egg yolk (when using raw I don't add the white)will at least be one source of living food and enzymes
anneh

Originally Posted by starry15

Our vet said that we should put in egg in his diet. It will help his coat for winter. But our vet was in a bad car accident and is out and I dont know who to ask. So im asking y'all.

Do I give him the egg Raw or cooked?

[Jr. Dog Expert]

Originally Posted by the-tenth

Ew. I'm not saying that I wouldn't do it for health reasons, but a raw egg in a milkshake? Never heard of that.

I used to do it too, its supposed to be nutritous,lol. however i'll never do it again, at least not straight out of the fridge, warming it up a tad would probably iliminate any bacteria though.

There is a spanish saying that goes like this "Es mejor prevenir que lamentar" literally translated its says "Its better to prevent than to lament," idc if the percentage is .049% or w/e thats big enough to give me reasons not to use raw eggs. FYI i do know that .049% is very very very low but still.....lol, sorry i'm very suspicious and cautious about food,lol, the one i eat and especially the one my pooch eats.

[Wimble Woof]

Originally Posted by dog08

cooked food. i dont want my deg getting use to eating raw food. it might eat smaller animals around

that has nothing to do with feeding, that is all about training.


Now, on the subject of raw eggs....
Dogs are NOT humans, they digest differently than we do therefore salmonella is less likely to affect them.

warming it up a tad would probably iliminate any bacteria though.

honestly now, how does one warm it up a tad? I mean, if I wanted to eat raw hamburg... warming it up a tad wouldnt protect me from anything....I'm not sure about eggs as I wouldnt even know how to go about "warming" them up....
raw eggs are NOT going to cause any problems in your dog, its NATURAL. Raw diet is NATURAL, nature has a way to work things out.

did you know that cookie dough isn't made the same way it was made before? The raw egg is heat slightly, to kill any bacteria then its used for cookie dough.

Not the ones my mother made and not the ones I make, I eat that raw too and dont warm a thing up.
I also will lick the spoon of a cake mix too, no samonella issues for me...
You are more likely to get samonella poisioning from poor food prep practices than the actual food.

Originally Posted by starry15

Our vet said that we should put in egg in his diet. It will help his coat for winter.

However... I dont know really what a raw egg is going to do for your dogs coat for winter?? Usually it is fed for a healthier looking coat.

You would get FAR better results with a good fish oil than eggs.

[Jr. Dog Expert]

[quote=Wimble Woof;128146]:

honestly now, how does one warm it up a tad? I mean, if I wanted to eat raw hamburg... warming it up a tad wouldnt protect me from anything....I'm not sure about eggs as I wouldnt even know how to go about "warming" them up....
raw eggs are NOT going to cause any problems in your dog, its NATURAL. Raw diet is NATURAL, nature has a way to work things out.
[quote]

Well first, samonella dies with exposure to heat, and hamburgers are WAY different, microbes like E coli which can sometimes be found in grounded beef can't be easily killed with heat, that is why there are certain regulations in restraunts about cooking. This information comes from a professor that used to work in different food processing industries, and if i sat here and told you the stories he tell us, believe me you would stop eating some things.

And you seem to express your opinions in a matter-of-fact way, and truth be told its not. There are more hazards in raw eggs that you can think, and then there is also the question of :IN what conditions are the chickens kept, the chikens that lay eggs for us to eat?

7. Raw/Undercooked Meat, Eggs and Bones
Raw meat and raw eggs can contain bacteria such as Salmonella [ital] and E. coli [ital] that can be harmful to pets. In addition, raw eggs contain an enzyme called avidin that decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin), which can lead to skin and coat problems. Feeding your pet raw bones may seem like a natural and healthy option that might occur if your pet lived in the wild. However, this can be very dangerous for a domestic pet, who might choke on bones, or sustain a grave injury should the bone splinter and become lodged in or puncture your pet’s digestive tract.
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...plefoodtoavoid


Of course there is good nutrient in eggs no one is arguing that, but there is risks, and those must be taken into account, no matter how immaterial the risk may seem.

[Wimble Woof]

Originally Posted by Jr. Dog Expert;128169Raw meat and raw eggs can contain bacteria such as Salmonella [ital

and E. coli [ital] that can be harmful to pets. In addition, raw eggs contain an enzyme called avidin that decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin), which can lead to skin and coat problems.

I cant help but notice that the fact that the egg yolk has enough biotin to offset this possibility is left out...

Feeding your pet raw bones may seem like a natural and healthy option that might occur if your pet lived in the wild. However, this can be very dangerous for a domestic pet, who might choke on bones, or sustain a grave injury should the bone splinter and become lodged in or puncture your pet’s digestive tract.

Whats the main difference from my domestic dog and a coyote? If anything thankfully my domestic dog will have the advantage of veterinary treatment in this event...

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...plefoodtoavoid
[/quote]
And as soon as I read this

The Iams Company is the sponsor of the ASPCA Pet Nutrition and Science Advisory Service

off of that link, anything that is written is biased and IMO discredited as Iams will try to sell their products so there is no way that they will recognize raw, grain free, or home cooked as adequate, that would be bad for buisness no?

I can pull a gozillion links off the internet stating that raw feeding is far superior to cooked or processed as well as perfectly safe.

Dont think for a minute I havent done my research and read both sides of the story before deciding on this for my guys, trust me I have.
However when ever a website negatively speaks of raw feeding in anyway, they can never seem to respond to rebuttles??
Second chance ranch 's take on raw
http://www.secondchanceranch.com/tra...eat/index.html

Rebuttle for Second chance ranch.
http://rawfed.com/myths/rebuttal5.html

No response ....

AVMA's take on raw feeding
http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/jan05/050115ww.asp

Rebuttle for AVMA
http://www.rawlearning.com/responsetoAVMA1.html


No response.....

So although I seem to speak so "matter of factly" forgive me, but I am just going to trust nature on this one.
Science isnt all its cracked up to be.

Negative rep point number one!!! lol

Refrain from posting opinions while not presenting evidence, and discrediting others posts, this only generates arguments.