[nlkeple]

I think the bottom line is that there is a .049% chance of getting an infected egg. And even if you get an infected egg, you do not necessarily get sick so the actual risk is less than .049%. Some people think this is an extremely small risk, and not worth making a big deal about, other people think that any risk that can be prevented should be prevented. Ultimately it is up to you and what makes you feel more comfortable. Since there are pro's and con's on both sides of the fence. You have to look at the facts .049 and weigh that against your own judgment. No matter what decision you make, I'm sure your pup will benefit from egg in whichever form being added.

[ChillisMom]

Just a question for those of you that feed raw eggs, do you bake the eggshells before adding it to your dogs food? I've read somewhere that it gets rid of the bacteria?

[the-tenth]

Just wondering how you would bake the shell, and still have a raw egg? Not trying to be a smart butt, just couldn't think of any other way to ask it. How often are you guys giving the doggies an egg?

[ChillisMom]

Originally Posted by the-tenth

Just wondering how you would bake the shell, and still have a raw egg? Not trying to be a smart butt, just couldn't think of any other way to ask it. How often are you guys giving the doggies an egg?

Crack the egg open and then just put the shell in there on a baking sheet, sorry I didn't explain, lol.

[the-tenth]

I see. I'm not a poultry expert (I eat a lot of chicken though), but I would think there's a lot more bacteria in the raw egg, than in the shell itself.

[Wimble Woof]

I feed probably 2 eggs a week per dog, sometimes.
its not part of their daily diet, more of a treat, they love them.
I have never heard of baking the shell honestly.
I just hand the whole egg to the dogs, they bite down and start eating.
I dont grind the shell into fine powders or handle the eggs much, just hand it over and they eat it.
Sometimes I'll freeze the egg and give them a yummy frozen treat too.

The bottom line with raw anything is your personal comfort level with it.

[Jr. Dog Expert]

Originally Posted by nlkeple

I think the bottom line is that there is a .049% chance of getting an infected egg. And even if you get an infected egg, you do not necessarily get sick so the actual risk is less than .049%. Some people think this is an extremely small risk, and not worth making a big deal about, other people think that any risk that can be prevented should be prevented. Ultimately it is up to you and what makes you feel more comfortable. Since there are pro's and con's on both sides of the fence. You have to look at the facts .049 and weigh that against your own judgment. No matter what decision you make, I'm sure your pup will benefit from egg in whichever form being added.

I agree with you its really up to the person, as for me many of you can see that im one of those ppl who avoid a risk no matter who small it may be.lol. I think that its playing russian rullette, i mean there are times when there are outbreaks of certain things that no one would suspect would happen because of the low percent risks. Like some E coli outbreaks, just me though.....lol.

Originally Posted by Wimble Woof

I can pull a gozillion links off the internet stating that raw feeding is far superior to cooked or processed as well as perfectly safe.

Well will agree with you to a certain extent, i do believe that raw is beneficial to a certain point, but then again it has its risks.

And really, just because you can pull a "gozillion" websites sawing something doesn't prove anything. I can probably pull websites that say onion and chocolate is good for dogs but is it? NO. Its just that so many ppl that like to contradict a common believe are ppl who make websites like these.

And as for far superior, idk about that, i mean it really all depends on the dog, some do good on raw feeding yet im sure others reject it, same thing for the "less superior" cooked or processed foods. Take my dog for example, he only is fed dry food, i've never switched his diet, and guess what? I've never seen a more healtier dog, has a healthy appetite, never looks depressed, and he has never had to visit the vet (except for vaccinations), he even got hypothermia once (my dumb fault i might add), and he was shaken up at first but by the morning he was up ready to go out, it seemed like nothing ever happened. So im sure that it depends greatly on the dog rather than the food.

[Wimble Woof]

I'll actually agree with you on your points about dog vs the food... as well as the "gozillion" links, what you said is what I am trying to say about internet links its easy to pull a lot of stuff off the net and pass it off as valid.

[Jr. Dog Expert]

Originally Posted by Wimble Woof

I'll actually agree with you on your points about dog vs the food... as well as the "gozillion" links, what you said is what I am trying to say about internet links its easy to pull a lot of stuff off the net and pass it off as valid.

Couldn't be happier that we agreed!

[sillylilykitty]

When I worked for a breeder she had her own chickens and we got so stocked up on eggs that we started giving the dogs at least one raw egg per day over their kibble. All of them ate the eggs, some wouldnt eat the egg by itself though. All 10-12 dogs ate at least one egg sometimes 2 eggs everyday for about a year and NEVER got sick. I never heard of feeding the shell though.

Most of the salmonella contaminated eggs the salmonella is located on the outside shell. So if you wash them the risk of salmonella poisoning goes even farther down.

[Jr. Dog Expert]

Originally Posted by sillylilykitty

When I worked for a breeder she had her own chickens and we got so stocked up on eggs that we started giving the dogs at least one raw egg per day over their kibble. All of them ate the eggs, some wouldnt eat the egg by itself though. All 10-12 dogs ate at least one egg sometimes 2 eggs everyday for about a year and NEVER got sick. I never heard of feeding the shell though.

Most of the salmonella contaminated eggs the salmonella is located on the outside shell. So if you wash them the risk of salmonella poisoning goes even farther down.

You said it, she had her own chickens, i would feel much safer feeding jr raw eggs if they were from my chickens, but since they are processed i don't trust them so much, i mean i've seen how they mass-raise chickens and its not pretty.

And still, if we cross out the possibilty of samonella there are still many other microbe that exist, I mean they put warnings (if you can call them that) more like a caution, on egg cartons that say that eggs need to be thoroughly cooked to reduce risk of becoming ill, unless thats boggus then i'll refrain from feeding any dog i know raw eggs, cooked eggs every now and then, but not raw....

[sillylilykitty]

Organic brown eggs are good. The chickens are not caged and are vegetarian fed, totally healthy. No antibiotics or pesticides.

[Jr. Dog Expert]

Originally Posted by sillylilykitty

Organic brown eggs are good. The chickens are not caged and are vegetarian fed, totally healthy. No antibiotics or pesticides.

Okay thats good to know, but what about those that feed their pooches white eggs, the brown egg sounds healthy though. We go to a local farm to get eggs and milk, i think they sell brown eggs, didn't know there was a difference! Thanks!

[Wimble Woof]

[quote=Jr. Dog Expert;130325]there are still many other microbe that exist, QUOTE]

Do you have any idea how many microbes you ingest on a day to day basis? Do you eat mayonaise on anything?
point here is: Its not eating raw eggs that is the serious issue for many things, its eating in general.
Fast food, do you eat it? If so are you certain that the food was properly stored and handled? If yes, how are you certain? because of guidelines, health regulations? No matter what, things get into your food, food poisioning occurs.
Sure you can prevent it by not eating mayo, fast food, restaurant food, mass produced food and so on.
Do you eat tomatoes? Or ketchup? because honestly botulism is awfully scary too.
Many dogs eat raw eggs, they arent dying. Sure the possibility is there for salmonella however, the possibility for many things is around them and us on a daily basis.
Eating is russian roulette once we start talking "other microbes".
Raw eggs are not a crisis situation, I would rather feed that than mass produced pet foods that I have to put my faith in the food industry... and I think we can all remember the amount of recalls from "trusted" foods.

Originally Posted by Jr. Dog Expert

Okay thats good to know, but what about those that feed their pooches white eggs, the brown egg sounds healthy though. We go to a local farm to get eggs and milk, i think they sell brown eggs, didn't know there was a difference! Thanks!

I have organic egg laying hens, depending on the breed, they lay differently.
My red shaver sex link hens lay brown, my Leghorns lay white. Now next time around I will stick to the Shavers though, they are far more "stable" hen.

http://www.freyshatchery.com/breeds.html#leghorn

[Jr. Dog Expert]

I guess i should have elaborated....i meant more of the harmful bacteria, of course i'm well aware that there are microbial cultures on everything.

ANYWAY, after a little though it really doesn't matter, there are food recalls true, but there are also human food recalls and outbreaks like the big problem a while ago with E coli in lettuce(or spinach, something to that effect). There is nothing to stop the next outbreak from being some fatal bacteria in eggs and same goes from "our trusted dog foods". Im well aware of how many the products we buy are processed and truth be told it really sickens me. Im sure there is the same thing happening for dog foods. Really there is no right or wrong way to feed your dog, no matter in what way you want to put it, thing is that the essential minerals and vitamens are there, that way they have a healthy immune system to be able to fight of those "other microbes".

[Wimble Woof]

also,Jr.Dog Expert, I am sorry if I seem to be picking on you... I dont intend to, however your posts always get me typing.... hope you understand. Nothing personal

[nlkeple]

Repent!! The end is near!!! The microbes are coming !!!

Sorry, not picking on anyone, it is just there are 3-4 or maybe more posts all about microbes and it made me laugh.

[sillylilykitty]

Originally Posted by Jr. Dog Expert

Okay thats good to know, but what about those that feed their pooches white eggs, the brown egg sounds healthy though. We go to a local farm to get eggs and milk, i think they sell brown eggs, didn't know there was a difference! Thanks!

White and brown eggs are mostly the same except 2 things. One, they come from different breeds of chickens. And two, brown eggs are usually the organic ones and white eggs usually are not. Both can be organic it just depends what type of chicken the farm has (organic comes from family farms, not factory farms). If it says organic, whatever the food is, it means the animals were not fed antibiotics or pesticides in their foods, they were treated humanely, they were not caged. As long as you see "USDA Organic" on the box or package you know the things I listed above are true for that food. My favorite brand is "Organic Valley", they are the best for dairy products.

[Wimble Woof]

However, in my case, its harder to have "organic" or free range white layers, they truely are a timid bird especially the breed I have (most common white layer) now, something spooks them, like the cat walking by minding his own affairs, they dont lay... if there is a storm during the night, no white eggs... my brown layers are very reliable and more "ballsy" if the cat walks too close to them, they chase him... my leghorns are back in the coop and moulting. (thats a dramatization)
So perhaps that is the reason that white eggs are more factory farmed, I dont know, but white free range eggs are harder to come by when out searching for fresh farm eggs.

[War]

I feed my dog 2 eggs a week as a treat .
I cook it.
I scramble it or just boil them.
It's just my personal preference as far as cooking it goes.