Before and Afters??? Just for fun! :D

KintaroLove · 02-20-2009, 11:44 PM

Graco- is barons coat naturally very wooley as it looks in the pic?

how big do stanrd poodles get? can they get really really big? I've only seen medium sized standards in real life and i was considering a second dog

Graco22 · 02-21-2009, 03:31 PM

Kintaro, Yes, Baron's coat is pretty wooly. He has a pretty nice coat. Correct poodle coat is coarser textured. It helps keep matting at bay, and scissors up nicely. Soft coated poodles matt like crazy, and are hard to scissor without scissor marks, etc. He is a farm dog, runs on the cow/goat/horse farm and they NEVER brush him..The burrs and mud brush and wash right out, and he is never matted, even after 6 weeks, all due to correct coat.

Correct size for standards is no higher than 26 inches at the withers I believe..They are not supposed to be a huge dog, and many consider them more towards the medium size of breeds. However, some backyard breeders are breeding these poodles they call "Royal Standards" and they are breeding them way bigger than they are intended to be. If you want one that is correct in size, search out a good breeder that shows and does the health testing, as there are many health issues with standards, and many can be tested for before breeding.

I can't say enough good things about standards, as I am sure Poodleholic can add to..They are great all around dogs..great for kids, single people, couples, families, older people,etc. They love to fetch and play, but aren't crazy/wild active dogs. They the the second smartest dog breed, and learn VERY fast. My standard was completely potty trained at 4 months old, and learned all his commands shortly thereafter. They want to please their people, and do everything they can to do what you want them to do...(unlike terriers..

I would have more standards if I had a bigger house...and someday I will!

Love's_Sophie · 02-21-2009, 09:42 PM

Hey, now, don't forget Minis...tehehehe! My mini poodle boy is very much a 'big dog in a little dog package'!

He has been easy to potty\crate train, and knows his basic commands, along with shake, spin, and 'sit pretty'\beg.

I would have gotten a Standard, Aussie, or Golden, if I weren't living in an apartment, but my family has had Mini's for as long as I can remember, so I am very familiar with them and their fun attitude, and trainability. Mine hasn't gotten his adult coat yet, but he should have a decent one, as I have seen both parents, and they had nice coats.

Graco22 · 02-21-2009, 10:21 PM

LOL Sorry not to include the mini's..I have never had a mini, but I like big dogs better than small ones..I have Devon Rex kitties, and small dogs can get thru my kitty doors into the cat food and litter...LOL Mini's are definitly a big dog in a little body!

Love's_Sophie · 02-22-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Graco22

LOL Sorry not to include the mini's..I have never had a mini, but I like big dogs better than small ones..I have Devon Rex kitties, and small dogs can get thru my kitty doors into the cat food and litter...LOL Mini's are definitly a big dog in a little body!

I hear you on the preference, for sure...I really prefer bigger dogs, but considering I don't have any idea how long I'll be an 'apartment dweller', I decided to get a smaller dog. I really miss my larger dogs, though!

Love's_Sophie · 03-04-2009, 09:19 PM

I have more pics, but I can't find my camera cord...uggh...sorry guys!

mostlymutts · 03-05-2009, 03:59 PM

Rats. I have been missing you guys.
You know, I can't find mine either...
When you find yours, maybe you can tell me where to find mine. LOL

mostlymutts · 03-11-2009, 02:00 PM

Okay.
I have to do it.
Bump. Bump.
(Where is everybody????)

Graco22 · 03-11-2009, 04:32 PM

Sorry guys. I just got back in town from a grooming contest, and haven't had time to catch up. I have some pics from the contest, and will try to take some at the shop this week and get some posted this weekend.

Its getting to be a busy time of year for us groomers, but I will do my best to keep this thread alive and well, and I am sure the others will to.

mostlymutts · 03-13-2009, 01:33 PM

Hurray!
How did the grooming contest go?

Graco22 · 03-13-2009, 03:18 PM

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Hurray!
How did the grooming contest go?

It went great, thanks for asking. I took 4 dogs. No good with the english setter, but I figured that before the show. THey are handstrips, and his coat was shot to start with. (the breeder/owner coat kings him.

I won my class with my airedale that I handstrip, finished 2nd with my standard in a german trim, and 3rd with an adorable little mix breed I borrowed from a client. When I get the picture CD from the show, I will post pics..though I do have some of the mix breed on my camera.

My friends I went with did great too. They are in open division (with all the Groom Team members, etc...very tough). One placed second with her standard in show coat continental, and second in group (HUGE! for a show coat dog) and my other friend won her mixed breed class, and took first in group. She was up for Best in Show with him, but lost to a really nice mini poodle in german trim. Overall a great weekend. We came home with trophies and plaques, and more knowledge.

mostlymutts · 03-13-2009, 04:04 PM

Hurray! Glad you and your friends did well. Can't wait to see the pics.

Sorry to ask, but what does "coat kings" mean?

Love's_Sophie · 03-13-2009, 09:04 PM

Coat Kings are stripping tools. They can really break up and, thus, dry out a dog's coat, when used too often, or incorrectly.

Good job at the show, Graco!

Still haven't gotten a cord for my camera, and can't find it anywhere at home...uggh!

1Horse1Dog1Cat · 03-13-2009, 09:11 PM

Just a quick question...

I just got a Border Collie/Australian Shepherd, she has probably a medium length coat, more coarse than soft. Do you guys ever get Border Collies?

Graco22 · 03-13-2009, 09:35 PM

<<<<<<<<<<Sorry to ask, but what does "coat kings" mean<<<<<<<<<<<<

Don't be sorry to ask.

Like Sophie said, they are a tool, with curved "teeth" and the teeth have a blade on the underside. They are used to pull out undercoat on many breeds, but they also cut hair..Not good on the breeds whose coats need to lay flat, because what you get is alot of broken/cut coat, that then sticks up and curls. I rarely use them, though they can be a great tool on pets, I have yet to find them useful on a show coated dog of any breed. They just do too much damage to the topcoats.

1Horse, yes, I get plenty of border collies. Did 3 today from the same family in fact. They certainly benefit from professional grooming.

mostlymutts · 03-14-2009, 11:17 AM

Ah. Thanks!

I feel sort of sad for one of my dogs. Whatever sort of mix she is, she really got the short end of the stick. She has a wirey coat, but absolutely NO undercoat. Her coat comes no where near lying flat. When I brush her, she is fluffy and smooth for about five seconds. Then all the hair is "clumped" back together.

Graco22 · 03-15-2009, 07:08 PM

Here's some pics of my dogs from the show. The setter that I didn't place with, my airedale ( 1st place) I only have a full before pic, and after is only of his head, a few days later...and the mix breed before and after (3rd place)

Love's_Sophie · 03-16-2009, 11:30 PM

A kitty cat... (clickable thumbnails...not just teeny pics...Lol)
Ummm...why is there another cat sitting next to me?? (prebath\clip)

After (still looking for the 'other cat' I think!)

Aren't I so cute?? (she was really sweet too!)

mostlymutts · 03-18-2009, 06:30 PM

Graco--WOW on the mixed breed. I think he is my fav. Might end up being airedale when/if we get to see all of him. I think the setter is really a pretty dog. If you hadn't have been handicapped with him, I could have seen him being fantastic.

Love's_Sophie--LOL The poor thing is looking for her alter-ego. Bet she feels better.

I want to get the clippers after mine. We have had some 80 degree days. Then it turns around and snows. So not just yet I guess.

musicmom116 · 03-18-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Love's_Sophie

The problem with clipping off a double coated dog's coat off, is that it can often take a LONG time to come back in normal (like the old pom in Graco's post)...if you start shaving it, you better be prepared to do it over and over, cause sometimes once is all it will take to ruin a dog's (hair) growth.

How can you tell if the dog has a double coat? I'd like to know in case I decide to have Dallas shaved this summer. For those that don't know, Dallas is an Irish Setter/Poodle mix.