[peace36]

Originally Posted by Durbkat

I wouldn't tip a groomer nor do I tip when asked. Like the time I ordered domino's and I gave the guy the exact amount the pizza was, no tip, and when I handed him the money and he counted it real quick and he said "no tip?". Then I said "nope" and then I slammed the door in his face. Then I called the manager and told him what just happened and he said he would handle it. That person has never asked for a tip again. Or like the time I went to florida and when me and my family were heading out to the car the waiter ran out and asked if something was wrong and my mom said "no, why?" and then he said "well you didn't tip so I figured I did something wrong". Then I said "nothing was wrong except for the fact you ran out here like a moron asking for a tip". So no I will never tip unless I feel its necessary like if they did something above and beyond what was expected of them.

Wow. I agree with the waiter. I never heard of someone not tipping waitstaff unless something was wrong??? Or the pizza guy. You will be real lucky if someone remembers you and does not spit on your food.

I do not agree with spitting on food but believe me people do

I am like Lorina when going out. If I can not afford to tip when appropriate then I would not go out.


Well I did tip the groomer/owner. I guess not much. it was $23 and I gave $25. cash. I did not see any replies at the time of my dog getting groomed so I really was on sure what to do.

I hope I did not insult them. they seemed happy.

[Durbkat]

Well I guess I should have explained this part but the tip is included in the total, thats what the manager said, so I didn't see why they needed more.

[Dakota Spirit]

Originally Posted by Durbkat

Well I guess I should have explained this part but the tip is included in the total, that’s what thee manager said, so I didn't see why they needed more.

Really? That’s rather odd; I didn't know there were any places that included the tips in your total.

Anyway, I am with Lorina as well. In my mind, it’s only polite to tip the waiters. Not only is waiting a pretty thankless job but it can get really hectic at time. As for that waiter coming out...honestly I don't see why he warranted a rude response. If anything I would be glad to see he was interested in finding out if his performance was off.

[nrhareiner]

The only time I have seen the tip in the total is with large groups. That tends to be normals for most of the better restraunts.

Other then that I have eaten in more restraunts all over the U.S. and Canida and I have even had quite a few $25 cheesburgers in some of the finest hotels in this country. Now there they do tend to include the tip.


Also keep in mind that when you tip wait staff that is not all their money. From that they tip out the bus boys and if there is a bartender on staff they have to tip them too. Not to mention they are suppost to pay taxes on that too.

Heidi

[Durbkat]

At this one diner resturant that is a chain, frish's (sp) big boy, and one guy put a $100 tip down. lol

[nrhareiner]

Originally Posted by Durbkat

At this one diner resturant that is a chain, frish's (sp) big boy, and one guy put a $100 tip down. lol

I have done that too in the past when the restraunt was good the food was good and the service was good. Athough I was making A LOT more money then too and the bill was quite large but it still more then the average tip.

I tend to tip according to what I just listed more then a % when it comes to eating out. Like above I have tiped well and I have also left a bunch of pennies too.

Heidi

[iluvsophie]

Servers actually end up having to tip out the bus boys for your meal whether you tip or not, so when you do no tip they end up having to pay for you to eat there with their not so great wages. Unless they did a horrible job I believe you should at least give them 15%.

Also, the pizza places sometimes charge a "delivery fee" not a tip. Most of the time the delivery person does not see all this money. You should at least give them a couple bucks. Well unless you want secret toppings next time.

And yes tipping does usually give you perks. If you tip your groomer they will put you in last minute, give you a complimentary flea bath, etc. When I worked at a hair salon, the hair dressers used to write who tipped well and who didn't on client cards. Clients who tipped well got squeezed in when they were booked, got free deep conditioning treatments, etc.

[FilleBelle]

I tip the person who cuts MY hair. Surely the person who cuts my dog's nails should get something, too. I mean, if we're giving service people a little something for their trouble, then the dog is a much bigger pain in the butt about his nails than I am about my hair or my pizza!

[peace36]

Originally Posted by FilleBelle

I tip the person who cuts MY hair. Surely the person who cuts my dog's nails should get something, too. I mean, if we're giving service people a little something for their trouble, then the dog is a much bigger pain in the butt about his nails than I am about my hair or my pizza!

yeah that makes sense if they are getting paid minimum wage but if they are getting more than why should you tip for a job they are getting paid well for?

By the way does anyone know what minimum wage is now?

[RonE]

the dog is a much bigger pain in the butt about his nails than I am about my hair or my pizza!

As a rule, I don't tip if there's hair on my pizza.

My late father was a generous man in most aspects of his life, but apparently had no clue about tipping. He would take his family out to dinner and leave two dollars for a tip on a $100 dinner tab.

One of us would make an excuse to go back ("Oh, I think I left my right shoe under the table") and leave another $20.

[Dieselsmama]

Originally Posted by nrhareiner

I do not use a groomer that offten just if one of the bigger dogs gets really really bad in the winter time. However to answer your question. No I do not tip the groumer nor to I tip my farrer (horse shower) when I use one nor my trainer or too many other service related things. I do tip waithers and such but I feel that is a bit differnt. I know I do not expect to get a tip for my work for which I am being paied and setting my price.

Heidi

Why is it different to tip a waitress but not a groomer. Both rely in some part on those tips. I'll tell ya as a groomer, I worked an awful lot harder on people's dog who tipped me for my efforts. That's not to say I didn't work hard on the others, but if dog A whose owners tipped came in matted, I might make an extra effort to try to dematt as opposed to stripping.

[nrhareiner]

Originally Posted by Dieselsmama

Why is it different to tip a waitress but not a groomer. Both rely in some part on those tips. I'll tell ya as a groomer, I worked an awful lot harder on people's dog who tipped me for my efforts. That's not to say I didn't work hard on the others, but if dog A whose owners tipped came in matted, I might make an extra effort to try to dematt as opposed to stripping.

For me the differnce it that wait staff does not set their pay scale. They get what is set most of the times as a min. by the state.

As a groomer you normally set you prices. Now if you work for someone that may not be totally true but most groomers around here work for themselves and set their prices. If an animal comes in extreamly matted and the owner would prefer the dog to be dematted over striped then that should have a price set on it.

I to work for myself and set my prices. When my cost goes up significantly then so do the prices I charge. I give the same quality product to EVERY client wither they buy one little 4X6 print or the client who buys a fully framed double matted 24X30 print. Or the client who buys $100 worth of prints every show. Each get costom prints. I do not expect a tip from any of them and I too am providing a service.

Same was true when I drove Custom busses for entertainers. I did not expect a tip I was being well compensated for what I was doing and even for the things I did that most drivers did not to I still felt what I was getting paid was adiquit.

Heidi

[peace36]

I was told that tip used to be given before the service and stood for To Insure Promptness. Anyway I think if you are paying for a service even if it is getting you hair don you should not tip (I do anyway because I guess it is what people do and expect) I would rather give a Christmas gift of cookies or candles or something rather that tip to people that cut my hair or dogs hair on a regular basis is they always did the job they were supposed to throughout the year.

Now the waiters and waitresses of the world on minimum wage should defenatley get tipped based on how well they served you not on the food quality because after all they did not cook it. Bartenders too.

[Dieselsmama]

Originally Posted by peace36

Now the waiters and waitresses of the world on minimum wage should defenatley get tipped based on how well they served you not on the food quality because after all they did not cook it. Bartenders too.

Just a quick FYI, I know several waitresses and bartenders, they make way way way more than I ever did grooming full time and they put in far fewer hours. I believe a tip to your groomer is a show of gratitude for the gentle care and effort put into your dog. It was common for me to get a dog in as a new puppy and I was the one who taught it to behave while being groomed, to enjoy being groomed, and most people brought their dogs to me for the rest of that dogs life. When I left the shop I was running, the vast majority of clients called me at home begging me to tell them where I'd gone. The rest I guess weren't as resourceful LOL.

[FilleBelle]

Originally Posted by peace36

yeah that makes sense if they are getting paid minimum wage but if they are getting more than why should you tip for a job they are getting paid well for?

By the way does anyone know what minimum wage is now?

Are they getting paid well? I honestly haven't a clue how much groomers make. I suppose varies wildly depending on if the groomer is someone running his or her own business out from home or working part time at PetSmart.

Generally a tip is for doing something above and beyond, so to a certain extent I agree that a groomer should not generally be tipped unless they have done something special for you. I think many of us groomer-tippers out there give a tip for good service both to reward the job well done and to ensure that it continues to be well done in the future.

With my previous dog, I tipped heavily when I took her in to have her nails clipped because she hated having her feet touched and the groomer was obviously in great peril while doing her job. With the mellow guy I've got now, I put a dollar in the box that goes to the groomer's favorite rescue organization. Not really a tip, but trimming Alvin's nails takes all of two minutes and zero struggle, so it barely counts as a job, lol.

I believe that, as of July 24, federal minimum wage is $5.85. In my state (CA), the minimum wage is $7.50.

Ron - Hair OR pizza. OR. Lol

[squirt1968]

I know that when waitressing I had more take home pay than any job I have had. What I do now is not a high pay job and I tip wait staff but I am not a huge tipper as I know that at the end of the day most wait staff does make good money. there are many jobs that do not pay a livable wage that are not compensated with tipping. I believe in WA state min. is now close to 8.00
When in Idaho I do tip good as there wait staff is not covered under min wage and they make less than 4.00 hr. Hard to believe huh?

[PoodleKisses]

This is pretty intresting, as a groomer I do expect a tip, especially if I have put forth a lot of work on a matted dog, or a dog who wasn't nice or even just the dog itself was a lot of work due to the breed. Most of my clients do tip about 15-20% of the groom cost. It is very insulting for any groomer who has done a lot of work to make your pet look its best and we get nothing for it. I would say to the person who doesnt tip the owner of the shop that you may want to start lol the owners of the shops need it the most, there is a lot of cost that goes into the little extra things such as ribbons, colognes, bandanas that a lot of people like and want on their dogs that is not something we need to buy. I use all my tips that I get towards seminars, dog shows and grooming competitions. I also will save my tips and buy myself new shears, blades, and stuff we need to use on a daily basis to groom your dog. This is just my opinion as a groomer. It is intresting to hear other peoples opinions who arent groomers tho

[Amaya-Mazie-Marley]

I have been a waitress and it highly upset me when I wasn't give a tip. Most people will admit up front they could never be a waiter/waitress. Can you imagine running around all day carrying people good looking and smelling food while you had a break long enough to barely smoke a cigarette. You have to deal with rude people and constant complaints. You have to deal with screaming kids, drunk people, sick people, its such a pain. I worked my ass of and I think I deserved every tip I got. I did make quite a good bit of money but will never in my life work around food again. Just think how much of a differance a few dollars makes. If you can afford to come out and feed your whole family, you can afford to spare a few more dollars. My mom doesn't tip and if she does its like a dollar, I pretend to leave my purse and go back and put some more money down. People usually are only waiters because they need some money, it was the only job the could get etc. Tips are important and waiters do remember their customers and good tippers. They also get the best seats, best service, sometimes a free item here and there. A little kindness goes a long way.

[nrhareiner]

It is one thing to tip waight staff as they are 1 not setting their wages and 2 what you are really paying for at a restruant is your food not your service. The tip is payment for the service the waiter provided you.

As for a groomer or farrier or anything like that they are setting their prices you are paying for that service. If you do that job and are not making enough to cover your expences then charge more. If a dog comes in and is just madded and covered with burs then tell the owner that it will cost more then a basic bath. Set prices according to what you do for the animal. If the only way you can see you was clear to do a good job or do extra is by getting a tip then find new work.

I spent over 10 years driving entertainer coaches. Now I got paid to drive and also got paid to clean the bus, wash the bus, change the sheets on the bunks, and service the bus once a week. Now what I did and what I got paid for was 2 totally differnt things. There was ALWAYS food in the frig. and on the bus and at the end of the show and load out when the crow climed back on the bus there was somthing to eat in the crock pot the bus was clean, bunks made, the ice box was filled with drinks and on ice, trash was taken out. This was NOT part of what I was getting paid to do. It was what I did to keep the people on my bus happy. It also make my job easier on the down days as it did not take me as long to clean and get things the way they should be. It also kept me working while most of the other drivers where sitting at home over the slow months. When tours are up and running everyone works but when tours slow in the winter a lot of driver sit. I NEVER expected a tip and I rearly sat.

Same with most other things I do. I do them b/c I get paid to do them and I do extra b/c it is needed not b/c I expect a tip. I set my prices and if I find it is more work then what I am getting compensated for then the next time I will price the service accordingly. If I am higher then than other people who do the same thing then it will come down to the service I provide or they will get someone else to do the job. Simple as that.

Heidi

[PoodleKisses]

Not all groomers set their prices, especially those poor groomers who are working for a corperation such as Petsmart or Petco. They set the price not us. As for me I work for someone I do not own my own shop, I do charge for de-matting and anything that is above and beyond what is included for the "normal" groom. I'm lucky in the way for the most part I charge what I want, but it's all about competition, if I set my prices higher then the guy down the street b/c I feel the work I have to do on your pet is more then normal then where do you think youre going to go? To me who has it $5 higher or to joe schmo down the street who is $5 cheaper?? I would invite anyone who has never set foot into a grooming salon to watch what really goes on and what we have to deal with on a daily basis to come and see what we do. Is cleaning up your dogs crap b/c you didnt take him out potty part of my job?? no I cut hair. So there is a lot of extra's no one knows about that goes along with having your dog there fo a few hours. At least waiters dont have people trying to bite them, or are getting pee'd all over by the diners.