Does anyone have any patience to lend?

BoxMeIn21 · 05-31-2007, 03:44 PM

I am running out...My frustration is with Rowdy, he's a 1.5 year old super duper friendly boxer who is simply beside himself when meeting new people. We have been working extra hard on all of the items for his CGC and we can't seem to nail the "Sitting politely for Petting" portion of the test. Now he isn't rude, he no longer jumps, but he simply cannot stay seated and starts to kidney bean around the person who is petting him. I've tried body blocking, asked the "petter" to immediately stop petting if he moves from his seat, but he's not getting it. Any of you seasoned trainers out there have other ideas? Could it be a maturity issue?

briteday · 05-31-2007, 06:37 PM

I don't have any answers for you Box, but our youngest is 20 months old now and in CONSTANT motion! As soon as I try to watch some tv in the recliner she bounds into my lap, usually putting a paw on my bladder on the way up, then proceeds to stick her tongue up my nose or in my ear...CGC...maybe later!

Jen D · 06-01-2007, 06:31 AM

I have had luck with this in the past, as you know he want the attention BAD so if you have people that come in turn there back to him with no eye contact till he sits may help. What I do if I go into a house with that problem and with my own I will just turn my back to them and they will try to come around to look at my face I just turn again till the dog sits. I then give it a treat with the stay command as long as he is sitting I will continue to give tiny treats if they get up I turn again. Good luck

BoxMeIn21 · 06-01-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by briteday

I don't have any answers for you Box, but our youngest is 20 months old now and in CONSTANT motion! As soon as I try to watch some tv in the recliner she bounds into my lap, usually putting a paw on my bladder on the way up, then proceeds to stick her tongue up my nose or in my ear...CGC...maybe later!

LMAO!!! Now times that by two and you'll know what it's like at my house.

Thanks Jen D, I might try that. It never even crossed my mind to use the stay command either - duh!

borzoimom · 06-02-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BoxMeIn21

I am running out...My frustration is with Rowdy, he's a 1.5 year old super duper friendly boxer who is simply beside himself when meeting new people. We have been working extra hard on all of the items for his CGC and we can't seem to nail the "Sitting politely for Petting" portion of the test. Now he isn't rude, he no longer jumps, but he simply cannot stay seated and starts to kidney bean around the person who is petting him. I've tried body blocking, asked the "petter" to immediately stop petting if he moves from his seat, but he's not getting it. Any of you seasoned trainers out there have other ideas? Could it be a maturity issue?

lol.. I know the feeling .. Okay first we need to seperate the sit from petting. For a few weeks- put in a sit- Keep then for 5 minutes- if he gets up- put him right back in the exact spot he was, say nothing- not even a repeat command.
After you start to get a look from the dog of " bored", and without saying anything- pet the dog- slowly calmly and deliberately. If he moves- again- say nothing - put him back.. Pet him again- if he moves- say nothing put him back.. Keep doing this.. Now progress to a stranger- same thing- once the command is given- PUT HIM BACK say nothing.
Stopping the petting only frustrates him more- with a " I WANT MORE- I WANT MORE".. However- putting him right back, and petting him again- right back - its like a lesson in " give up boy- you are staying...!".. When I put my dogs back- its a little rough, not mean or anything- just deliberate-...
After you got that the dog stays with pets- go back to just a sit- talk to him- if he gets up- PUT HIM back..
I know this sounds like alot of patience- but really its not- its a mind set- you will stay - you will stay..." I have said it- thats it..."... Put on a act you are more "stubborn" than he is.. This is the same method you use to break charging at a door when someone comes..

BoxMeIn21 · 06-02-2007, 09:50 AM

Ah - Brilliant, borzoimom! That's a different way to come at it. I'll give that a try. Training Rowdy has been the most challenging. I've had to try numerous different approaches on training just one command sometimes. I'll try your's, thanks!

borzoimom · 06-02-2007, 11:41 AM

You are welcome! Tried and true!

tollerjosie · 06-03-2007, 06:42 AM

Hello!
Great advice, Borzoimom! Couldn't have done it better myself

BoxMeIn21; you ask in the original post if it could be a maturity issue; I'd say both yes and no. Yes, because he might settle down a little when he's about 2 y/o to 3 y/o, they usually do. No, because he is a boxer, and boxers are usually super-happy their entire life. That does not mean, however, that you can't train it away. Like Borzoimom says; you just have to be more stubborn than him!

Good luck!

Lightwingcreations · 06-03-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxMeIn21

Now he isn't rude, he no longer jumps, but he simply cannot stay seated and starts to kidney bean around the person who is petting him.

LOL, he's a Boxer through and through. Maybe Borzoimoms' advice will work with him.

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Originally Posted by briteday

I don't have any answers for you Box, but our youngest is 20 months old now and in CONSTANT motion! As soon as I try to watch some tv in the recliner she bounds into my lap, usually putting a paw on my bladder on the way up, then proceeds to stick her tongue up my nose or in my ear...CGC...maybe later!

ROFLMAO, sounds fun.

borzoimom · 06-04-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tollerjosie

Hello!
Great advice, Borzoimom! Couldn't have done it better myself

BoxMeIn21; you ask in the original post if it could be a maturity issue; I'd say both yes and no. Yes, because he might settle down a little when he's about 2 y/o to 3 y/o, they usually do. No, because he is a boxer, and boxers are usually super-happy their entire life. That does not mean, however, that you can't train it away. Like Borzoimom says; you just have to be more stubborn than him!

Good luck!

EXACTLY! Boxers are notorious " wiggle butts" lol- but if he thinks he is getting nothing to anticipate or has to operate quick to get it, it will stop. I can NOT see you boxmein21 as "stubborn" - so just put on a " good act" lol.. Keep us posted. It could take days- or weeks- but constant " I am more stubborn than you are" works!

Jen D · 06-04-2007, 07:21 AM

One plus for the boxer they have their tails docked, we don't have anything on our coffee table because the ABs wiggle alot but have the tail to clear them off.

borzoimom · 06-04-2007, 09:49 AM

BTW Boxmein21- I am getting my patience back- so I am sending you some extra.. lol..