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Old 11-04-2009, 08:29 AM   #1
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Walking Problems

My 1 year and 3 month old lab mix is quickly becoming a horrible walker. I've always loved taking him for walks and being able to relax, but now I feel like I can't because I am constantly correcting and disciplining. I'm going to go through the list of my problems and hopefully some of you can give me some advice.

Problem 1: I used to walk my dog with a Gentle Leader Easy Walk Harness. The leash connects at the front of his chest. He walked decent and I felt in control of him on this. However, I noticed the strap on his underbelly wore away his hair. For the past 3 weeks I've been walking him on his collar. I feel less in control and fear his collar will slip over his neck. His pulling is also worse. I've tried a choker collar and felt it was horrible. Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use? Maybe a different type of harness?

Problem 2: I try using positive reinforcement with treats to get my dog to walk by my side. When I give the command "by me" he will move towards my side, but once I reward him he speeds up and pulls. I've tried turning around everytime he pulls or stopping and waiting for the tension on the leash to loosen, but nothing works! If I don't have treats he won't even come by me.

Problem 3: He never used to when he was a puppy, but he almost always lunges towards people and especially other dogs now. It is not aggressive, but he wants to greet them. Even when I have a treat and tell him to stay "by me" and "leave it" he won't. Honestly, I have no clue what to do.

All I want is for him to walk by my side and follow my commands. He thinks he is the leader and I feel I can't do anything to change that right now. Positive reinforcement hasn't worked. I'm ready to give up. I'd appreciate any advice. Thank You!
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Re: Walking Problems

[quote=dyzir13;662979]My 1 year and 3 month old lab mix is quickly becoming a horrible walker. I've always loved taking him for walks and being able to relax, but now I feel like I can't because I am constantly correcting and disciplining. I'm going to go through the list of my problems and hopefully some of you can give me some advice.

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Problem 1: I used to walk my dog with a Gentle Leader Easy Walk Harness. The leash connects at the front of his chest. He walked decent and I felt in control of him on this. However, I noticed the strap on his underbelly wore away his hair. For the past 3 weeks I've been walking him on his collar. I feel less in control and fear his collar will slip over his neck. His pulling is also worse. I've tried a choker collar and felt it was horrible. Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use? Maybe a different type of harness?
I love my easywalk, but I can see how the hair loss can be an issue. Have you thought about adding a felt cover to the underbelly strap to prevent friction? Easily done if you sew, or a local tailor could do it for you.

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Problem 2: I try using positive reinforcement with treats to get my dog to walk by my side. When I give the command "by me" he will move towards my side, but once I reward him he speeds up and pulls. I've tried turning around everytime he pulls or stopping and waiting for the tension on the leash to loosen, but nothing works! If I don't have treats he won't even come by me.
This is most likely a training issue rather than a method issue. You have inadvertently been rewarding him for coming BACK to you rather than for walking nicely beside you. This is common and can be fixed. When he comes back to you take a step or too before marking and rewarding..he needs to be rewarded for moving forward by your side, not for just returning to you. Then you build up from two steps to three to four etc. It's a timing issue on part of the trainer to ensure you are rewarding the right behaviour..a clicker or marker word timed to coincide with his moving by your side is very important.

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B]Problem 3:[/b] He never used to when he was a puppy, but he almost always lunges towards people and especially other dogs now. It is not aggressive, but he wants to greet them. Even when I have a treat and tell him to stay "by me" and "leave it" he won't. Honestly, I have no clue what to do.
Work on a strong sit command, when someone approaches have him SIT, stand on the leash so he self corrects if he lunges. Reward him with treat or even better have the person or dog say HI IF HE IS CALM AND SITTING. Once he learns no hellos happen without sitting and being calm this behaviour will lesson..but it takes practice and consistency. Basically what you are doing is teaching the dog to sit automatically for greetings. This is a very important skill for a labrador (bouncy bouncy bouncy!). Using the greeting as a reward is a good way of using "life rewards" to train your dog.

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All I want is for him to walk by my side and follow my commands. He thinks he is the leader and I feel I can't do anything to change that right now. Positive reinforcement hasn't worked. I'm ready to give up. I'd appreciate any advice. Thank You!
He doesn't think he's the leader..he is an adolescent high energy extremely social dog with a lack of impulse control. Training a dog to consistently heel, not jump, greet nicely etc takes a lot of time and work..they are highly distractable, it is not disrespect, it is excitement. This will change over time but it is up to you to be patient, firm and reward ALL good behaviour appropriately so that he learns all good things come through behaving for you.

The first couple of years of dog life is hard on the owners...regardless of breed and then some breeds don't "go adult" until they are three years of age. Consistent training in the first couple of years pays off in the rest of the dog's life..

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Re: Walking Problems

Thank you for the advice. I think I am going to go ahead and stick with the Gentle Leader. I walked him on it again tonight and it was such a better walk. I may look into buying a bigger size, because maybe the rubbing on his hair is from being too small.
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. He thinks he is the leader and I feel I can't do anything to change that right now. Positive reinforcement hasn't worked. I'm ready to give up. I'd appreciate any advice. Thank You!
I would suggest that your dog (any dog) does not think in terms of being the leader but more that he is making lots of unwanted/undesired decisions simply based on the perspective that he has not been taught what to do/what not to do in experimenting with *whats in it for me *(the dog).

Obviously the approach (methods and tools) one might use to gain resolution in addressing all of the issues associated with either the desired or undesirable behaviors will make the difference on how long it might take/how well they are resolved.

This is why it is important in my opinion (and others of course) to start early and finish early so that you and your dog can enjoy the relatively short time that you will have together.

I generally have most all of the common issues resolved(especially the undesirable social behaviors) with all of my dogs in a few months AT MOST and generally regardless of when or where I get the dog. Walking issues can be resolved to a great extent within a few sessions for about any dog depending on the process you use.

good luck and hope you get those things under control sooner rather than later.

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Re: Walking Problems

We use the easy walk harness, too, and also had problems with the strap rubbing his belly. So now we only use it when we walk him. Mac wears just his collar and tags around the house and in the yard, and we just pull the harness on him for walks.

If you're having trouble with keeping him right by you, just don't give him any slack on the leash. I think it's the age-- as Cracker said, it's adolescence and excitement. Mac is the same age, and we've had some of the same problems. During his bedtime walk, when he's tired, we can give him more slack on the leash, but in the morning, when he's wide awake and there are more distractions, I have to keep it pretty tight and keep reminding him to heel. He'll get it eventually!
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Re: Walking Problems

never heard of the gentle leader that doubled as a harness??? i have always been under the impression that a harness equals work ie. pulling. we use a gentle leader that just goes around the neck and over the snout. our dog absolutely hates pulling on that, and if he ever gets ancy a gentle turn of the head will do the trick
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Re: Walking Problems

Have you tried the Wiggles Wags and Whiskers Patented No-Pull Harness? It is completely lined with velvet on the underside of the belly. You can ask your local stores if they carry it or look for it online.

It has a patented martingale loop on the back of the harness and an optional connection in the front and the belly strap has swiss velvet lining to help prevent the rubbing and hair loss. Look around for it, there should be several places online selling it.
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