The Dog Whisperer - You Like The Show??

txcollies · 10-25-2009, 09:52 PM

He has his good points, and you can learn some good information from him.

TxRider · 10-25-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Labsnothers

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MGPHL9D1N1.DTL

So Dunbar is in camp 4 as well I guess.

Nargle · 10-25-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RonE

If you do a forum search for "Cesar Milan" or "dog whisperer" you'll discover that he is a controversial and divisive presence.

People tend to fall into one of three camps:

Love him and his ideas.
Hate many, if not most, of his idea.
Find him personable and entertaining but would not dream of doing anything that he does on television.

I happen to fall into the third camp. I compare him with Mike Rowe on Dirty Jobs. I enjoy the show and watch it often, but I would not try any of it at home.

If people would actually heed the disclaimer on the Dog Whisperer, I think we'd all be just fine.

I'm between 2 and 3. I don't agree with his training methods, and I used to watch his show, but my interest has been dwindling.

I do like how he encourages lots of exercise and walks. However, that's about all I agree with. His P+ methods and dominance theory really puts me off.

Victoria Stillwell is a much better dog trainer and way more entertaining in my opinion

pittsabowawa · 10-25-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargle

I'm between 2 and 3. I don't agree with his training methods, and I used to watch his show, but my interest has been dwindling.

I do like how he encourages lots of exercise and walks. However, that's about all I agree with. His P+ methods and dominance theory really puts me off.

Victoria Stillwell is a much better dog trainer and way more entertaining in my opinion

I love Victoria Stillwell! I got a lot of "Leave It" tips from her show (although of course I didn't get as good results nor did I expect to). I love when she told that woman off for saying her dog was so pretty so she thought they would breed him

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Nargle · 10-26-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pittsabowawa

I love Victoria Stillwell! I got a lot of "Leave It" tips from her show (although of course I didn't get as good results nor did I expect to). I love when she told that woman off for saying her dog was so pretty so she thought they would breed him

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Lol, she has some great methods! I particularly like her solution to obsessive barking: training the "Quiet" command.

I also love how she has to problem telling someone what's what when they're being a complete idiot, lol! I especially liked the episode where a couple had like 5 french bulldogs and one foster frenchie, and the LAZY SoB of a husband didn't care about any dog but "his" dog, and REFUSED to feed and care for the foster. She straight up tore him a new one lol!

PS, Basil's "leave it" is pretty solid, look at my signature! Lol, j/k

TxRider · 10-26-2009, 04:27 PM

LOL, when I watch Victoria I keep thinking "I wonder if she's single?"

Nargle · 10-26-2009, 04:49 PM

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LOL, when I watch Victoria I keep thinking "I wonder if she's single?"

LOL!!

bully · 10-27-2009, 01:25 PM

Milan is a good marriage counselor, and can point out people's anxiety issues. I agree that it takes the correct "human" behavior to promote the correct dog behavior.

That's option 6 I guess.

chul3l3ies1126 · 10-27-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by txcollies

He has his good points, and you can learn some good information from him.

I agree with txcollies on this one.
And, I like the guy.

Nessa

jiml · 10-27-2009, 04:11 PM

I like them both take the good and leave the crap. I think Cesar is more entertaining and victoria is more informative. I hate that cesar's explinations (regardless if you agree w his methods) really are lacking but I guess thats due to his background. Victoria can be an A$$ but I guess thats just her passion.

everyone see this clip from the greatest american dog w Victoria - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0T8G...eature=related

LOL

yom · 10-27-2009, 04:22 PM

Im in camp 4 - agree with some of his methods but not all

Really i watch the show more to see dogs - since Ill pretty much watch anything that has dogs

loganbean · 10-27-2009, 04:34 PM

I like cesar and victoria. They both have great ideas and I have used both methods on my dogs. Training kind of reminds me of math- there are several ways to solve a problem. The trick is to find one that works for you/your dog.

Laurelin · 10-27-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by loganbean

I like cesar and victoria. They both have great ideas and I have used both methods on my dogs. Training kind of reminds me of math- there are several ways to solve a problem. The trick is to find one that works for you/your dog.

Unless you're in the math class I'm in... then you just fail lol.

RBark · 10-27-2009, 06:28 PM

The most amazing thing about Cesar's program is his insistence on Exercise, Discipline, and Affection. Other than that, *shrug* there're better ways to deal with most things.

lurcherloopy · 10-27-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MafiaPrincess

Camp 2 he's a tool.

I disagree! A tool has its uses!

pittsabowawa · 10-27-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargle

Lol, she has some great methods! I particularly like her solution to obsessive barking: training the "Quiet" command.

I also love how she has to problem telling someone what's what when they're being a complete idiot, lol! I especially liked the episode where a couple had like 5 french bulldogs and one foster frenchie, and the LAZY SoB of a husband didn't care about any dog but "his" dog, and REFUSED to feed and care for the foster. She straight up tore him a new one lol!

PS, Basil's "leave it" is pretty solid, look at my signature! Lol, j/k

LOL I can't get bella to bark (unless she is in her dog pen and wants to come inside or in the crate in the mornings and has to potty) so I guess thats one command I don't have to deal with

I like her techniques and most of them are pretty recreate-able. And I also likes that she tells people off. I think if you ask for her help then expect to get told off, shrug it off, take what you learned and move on.

Haha that picture is cute... bella has a good leave it(prolly about 50/50 right now) but when it comes to people food she's weird... she will stare but never take it off a plate until she knows you say its ok (I think she knows that she'll get in trouble if she tries to take people food)

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LOL, when I watch Victoria I keep thinking "I wonder if she's single?"

ROFL

TxRider · 10-27-2009, 06:52 PM

And who could ever forget Stains...

Inga · 10-27-2009, 07:11 PM

I would invite him over for dinner. I think he would be fun to talk to. Seems like a nice guy. I just wouldn't train like he does. I think it would be sort of funny to see him around my dogs. He wouldn't have any need to ALPHA roll my dogs so I wouldn't worry about that. I think he would tell me that my dogs are spoiled but they behave well so, who cares? ha ha

As far as Victoria Stillwell, I can't stand HER though I tend to agree with her training methods more then Cesar. Guess you can't have the best of both worlds.

MegaMuttMom · 10-27-2009, 07:16 PM

I completely agree with exercise first and discipline (NILIF) but too many people don't hear this part and do the alpha roll idiocy. So, the problem isn't so much with him but the lazy people who watch him and don't listen.

Nargle · 10-27-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jiml

I like them both take the good and leave the crap. I think Cesar is more entertaining and victoria is more informative. I hate that cesar's explinations (regardless if you agree w his methods) really are lacking but I guess thats due to his background.

Your dog is like this **Stares with wide eyes** He needs to be like this **Wiggles**

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Originally Posted by jiml

everyone see this clip from the greatest american dog w Victoria - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0T8G...eature=related

LOL

LOL, WOW. Someone forgot to take their Midol! XD

Maybe she should try some positive reinforcement techniques with people, too

I don't think the trainer has anything to do with the technique, though, if you know what I mean, lol! Caesar is a very charismatic guy, and I agree with Inga, he seems like someone I'd have over for dinner, even though I don't agree with his training methods. And though I like Victoria's methods a ton more, she obviously has her Cuckoo side XD