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Old 10-17-2009, 12:55 PM   #1
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Unpredictable aggression in dog

Hi!

I just got my first ever dog a month ago. He's a black lab/blue heeler mix-- very intelligent and energetic, as one would suspect! We adopted him at fourteen months and he was already pretty well-trained, although he had to learn his manners around the house.

I've been doing lots of research to try to make our family as harmonious as possible. He's definitely submissive to me (he's learned how to walk beside me when we're out and about and I go through doors/up the stairs in front of him). He knows he has to earn his dinner by sitting calmly first. He's learning not to jump when we come home (but it's a work in progress, lol). We're also working on bringing his "alert" barks down to acceptable levels so he'll stop when acknowledged. He also knows he's submissive to my husband and our cats, all of whom have their claws and have made sure he knows they're the bosses. So, basically, he's an angel when we're at home, and when we're out walking... as long as we don't encounter other dogs or people.

Sometimes, Edgar can walk calmly past another calm dog. Sometimes, Edgar can walk calmly past playing children. Sometimes, we can pass by a pair of adults on a stroll and have nothing happen.

And then sometimes, he lunges at these people/situations. It varies from just pulling really hard on the collar (which I'm never braced for because he'll have been walking quietly at my side for a half hour) to lunging, growling, snapping, and barking, and being very intimidating. Fortunately, he's not a huge dog (only 45 lbs) and I've managed to restrain him so far. It's also a problem when he meets other dogs: sometimes he'll be friendly and sniff them quietly, and then sometimes he'll initiate a fight. (The latter is extra-bizarre because he's been attacked before and thought it was just THE FUNNEST THING EVER and tried to play with his attacker with no hint of aggression.)

I can never tell which he's going to do. I try to exude calm and confidence and keep his attention so he remembers that I'm the alpha, but he can just go so bonkers sometimes. It's gotten to the point where I'll divert our walk if I see people coming up on us, which sometimes involves going a mile out of our way to have an uninterrupted walk. I hate having to tell children they can't pet the "pretty puppy," just in case he gets aggressive with them.

This is all scary to me because my husband and I plan on starting to have children in the next year or two, and I don't want to have a dog whose aggression I can't predict in the same house as an infant.

Does anybody have any suggestions? I love my dog. He's such a sweetheart at home. But these occasional attacks and acts of aggression are terrifying.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Unpredictable aggression in dog

My suggestion would be to hire the services of a certified trainer. Not so much because there is a concern, but rather because there's likely a cue your dog is giving you that he's not comfortable with certain introductions, and you're missing it. A qualified pair of eyes could help point this out and provide a protocol to prevent it from happening in the first place + give you tools to help get the dog you want/need in the future.

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Re: Unpredictable aggression in dog

Curb is correct that the dog is making up the rules of engagement...deciding who to like or not like. And, yes, they do send those signals well ahead of time but, I take a different approach to the whole 'meet and greet' process. My dogs don't get to make those decisions....I do. I greet first.....always. They wait for my cue/their turn to say Hello (or, not) by either sitting politely or focused on me (not the other dog or person).

Once the dog understands that it's not their job to make those decisions, they relax.
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Re: Unpredictable aggression in dog

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Curb is correct that the dog is making up the rules of engagement...deciding who to like or not like. And, yes, they do send those signals well ahead of time but, I take a different approach to the whole 'meet and greet' process. My dogs don't get to make those decisions....I do. I greet first.....always. They wait for my cue/their turn to say Hello (or, not) by either sitting politely or focused on me (not the other dog or person).

Once the dog understands that it's not their job to make those decisions, they relax.
That has worked well for me as well.

Hope started right off the bat when I got her showing signs of this. With people and dogs when they came into our "personal space" for lack of a better term. She "got it" in just a few weeks.

My new girl I got last week is doing the same, but she is also quite insecure after being in a kennel for a long time and learning to cope with a whole new world. She's learning fast not to do so. The ridgeback that jumped her at the dog park last week set me back a bit though.

At the first sign of her deciding she doesn't like a dog coming close or a person I make sure to overtly accept them and interact with her watching until she seems comfortable. And then usually let her interact until she's comfortable.

Also if you just got the dog he is likely pretty insecure about things. The new home, the new neighborhood, new people, etc. and is trying to learn to cope with his new world.

Your job is to guide him, and if you don't know how to do so some help from someone who can read your dog and his body language would be a good thing.
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Old 10-17-2009, 09:59 PM   #5
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Re: Unpredictable aggression in dog

Nothing happens in the dog world with out warning...it is us who are the ignorent ones and can't read the language fast enough to predict what they are saying with their body language. I would HIGHLY suggest haveing a behavioral evaluation done by a behaviorest that does hime visits in order to asses him in his home environment and in his neighborhood when out on lead.
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Re: Unpredictable aggression in dog

Google "calming signals" or get the book 'On talking terms with your dog: Calming Signals" by Turid Rugaas (www.dogwise.com).
Cracker only reacts to certain dogs as well, not only have I learned HER signals of overload but also have learned why certain other dogs trigger her. With other dogs, it's if the other is staring or tense (licking lips or head down). She can often greet a dog and then she will turn her head away from them, this is her way of saying, okay that's enough..when the head turn happens I walk her away and praise her. If I MISS it, then she will snap at the other dog. It takes two to tango here..if they're polite and relaxed so is she, if they are not, she is not.
She also used to react to some people, tall white men, skateboarders, EXCITED or running children. I desensitized her with classical conditioning and now she will walk by with little or no reaction.
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