[crazydog06]

Any 'Dog Whisperer" watchers? I watch the show religously! I think he is great and I use his Walk Technique and his methods work for me.

I know I miss spelled his name wrong! Typo!

[Wimble Woof]

i have just recently started watching the show, i find he's alright, pretty good at what he does, but the owners annoy me for the most part... not sure why, perhaps because they talk as though they know EVERYTHING now that Caesar has come???!?!?!?!?!
Too much repeating, over and over, just kinda irritates me a tad...

[Kerry]

Some of the stuff he says makes sense. But why the warning "don't try this at home"? What's the point of the show if people can't use the techniques?

[German Shepherd Lover]

Kerry, Haven't you noticed that Ceasar gets biten quit often. He also has his own dogs that are trained not to be agressive with other dogs so he has to make a disclaimer to avoid law suits. He is extremely attuned to body language of dogs and still gets bit.

Can't you see the headlines: " May sues Ceasar for $30,000.00 because dog bites him" .. This would open a pandora's box...

[britishbandit]

I've never seen his show, and can't say I'll be watching it anytime soon. I have read his book "Cesars Way", and there were parts I fully agreed with, found to be very informative, and a great eye opener for people who can't understand why their dogs act a certian "bad" way. Usually down to the owner fulfilling their own needs ahead of their dog. He makes many good points. But there were other parts I didn't agree with, and thought it was way off base. I'd still suggest the book for dog owners to read though, well worth it, even if there are some parts that I didn't like.

He's never claimed to be a "trainer" of dogs, but a "rehabilitator". It's the people he trains...LOL. Whether anyone classifies him as a trainer or not, like any trainer, I don't usually agree fully with their methods. I take bits and pieces of what I can use, from all kinds of trainers, or would use and discard the rest. So in my eyes being 100% Cesar is as bad as being 100% against Cesar. You have to be wiling to try and be open to new and different concepts.

From what I've heard about his show, is the reason I won't watch it. Regardless of the "don't try this at home" bit, I'm sure many people will give it a try, to save on cash of getting a trainer or behaviorist in. And from what I hear, some of these situations can be quite dangerous. At least potentially dangerous.
I also heard of a show (and I think he mentioned this in his book also) with a Great Dane that fell on a slick kitchen floor, that was then terrified of walking on the flooring. I can't say I was happy about how he handled it. Basically "masked" the fear, rather than working through it.

[Six]

I use some of his techniques. I do think that it is insane that he brings along that INTACT MALE PBT/ST to help show other dogs how to behave normally. That is just an accident waiting to happen. He also had him off leash walking in a neighborhood. There is no way to know if there are loose dogs in the neighborhood and how they will react. CRAZY

[Samantha]

I watch it all the time, and when I cant watch it it's recorded on TVO.
I use it often in my dogs, more so on others, it works wonders. The snap, the sh, works so well. I'm so suprised. But I"ve watched it and read the books, I"m a big fan :P

[kozmos]

There is a book and dvd out by another guy
, Paul Owens, that is called "the Dog Whisperer" . I just bought it off a site called My Pet Pouch . com I think it is a much nicer and kinder way of training a dog. It is doing great with my little guy! Has any one else ever heard of Paul Owens?

[crazydog06]

Yeah, I do feel like the show repeats itself. Cesar says the same things over and over agian.

I have to laugh when the owners on his show say that they watch his show but still have dog problems! But I figure cause the owners aren't doing it right.

I do question some of his techniques. But most of his clients seem to have results and continue to. I know that my neighbors started watching his show and thier dog walks 100% better than before.

I have heard of Paul Owens but never read any of his stuff. Might have to check him out! I do like Brian Kilcommons. He is known around the US for training shelter dogs and puppies. He has several books out.

[Elijah]

Pat Miller is another like Paul Owens who has a book out called "The Power of Positive Dog Training and is 180 degrees from Cesar Millan. It's like two college professors teaching on the Spanish Inquisition...depends on their background on what you're going to glean from their teaching. I like both books but, take certain things with a grain of salt. I agree 100% with BB about the problem with the Great Dane and the floor. Not my way to help the dog. I wouldn't want someone to lock me in a small bathroom filled with spiders!! I'd find a way out if it was through the ceiling.

[Cheetah]

I watch the show purely for entertainment (I don't believe it's good for much else lol). What annoys me is that people will watch a few episodes of his show and then think they are now experts because they watched a TV show. >-.-;<

The show has quite a few owners with... really interesting ideas about dog behavior... >O.o;< So it's a good laugh for me... Like the lady with the ACD/Dingo mix... "Well, I gave him the cookie because he wouldn't come!" Brilliant!! >@.o;<

[iwantmypup]

I amtually dont watch it that much but I do want to get his book once we get our puppy on sat...... But i do have other books
Like


HOW TO HOUSEBREAK YOUR DOG IN 7 DAYS

by Shirlee kalstone.. hope iit works and some books by a dude names Michael Kelly ..yeah

[blindeyehalo]

Well I was going to put this in a new topic, but since this is my first post at this forum I thought I'd just use an existing thread about Cesar Millan.


I've noticed that a lot of people who criticize him say how you can tell by the dog's body language that they are scared of him, stressed out, etc. Then most of the time they recommend Ian Dunbar instead.

So I went and google imaged both behaviorists and saved a few of their pics to compare side by side.

Now I may be mistaken but, personally, I don't see the dogs behaving any differently to either of them.

I would like some opinions on this. Not your opinion on the psychologists/behaviorists/trainers/or whatever you'd like to refer to them as( I've read enough of those to last me a long time), but I would like some on the dogs.

These are the pictures I was comparing:






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(There are more, but I didn't realize there is a limit to how many images can be in a post so I will post them after this)
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I think because he has been featured on shows like Oprah Winfrey's, he was very much over-sold to people and everyone was expecting some miracle formula from him, only to find out its the same stuff they'd heard before.

Most of Cesar's success, though, seems to be from his ability to put that information into simple terms that everybody can understand.

A lot of people who push "positive reinforcement only" may think what he does is too hard on the dog, but sometimes you can go too far the other way too.

You really need a good balance of both, discipline and praise; discipline so they know what not to do, and praise so they know what they are supposed to do.

Every dog is different and some need more of one than the other. I've read every single word of Cesar's Way five times and I'm pretty sure this is a concept he understands. And as many people have pointed out, his show is edited and can be deceiving, don't be too quick to judge, and that goes for both sides of the argument.

Cesar is not "God", and not everything he says right, you can't rely on only one person. In order to really know whats going on you need to do your own research. On the other hand, dismissing everything he says entirely is just as ignorant.

[blindeyehalo]

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I have one comparison left.

[blindeyehalo]

last one:






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Sorry for multi-posting, but I really wanted to share these.

[QueenMerry]

I agree wholeheartedly with Cesar's thing about calm assertive behavior. If you're nervous or anxious, it does transfer to your animals (cats, dogs...even humans). That's not a big secret though. I think part of Cesar's schtick is common sense. The other part is lots of experience in animal behavior...

[RonE]

Originally Posted by Cheetah

I watch the show purely for entertainment

There ya go. I do the same thing.

I sometimes watch 'Extreme Makeover Home Edition' but I'm not going to be driving a bulldozer through my house any time soon.

(There is hardly ANYTHING on TV that you'd want to try at home.)

(Eew. Ian Dunbar could use one of those teeth-whitening products.)

[MagicToller]

I watch the show purely for entertainment (I don't believe it's good for much else lol). What annoys me is that people will watch a few episodes of his show and then think they are now experts because they watched a TV show. >-.-;<

I agree - that's probably my worse peeve with the show. We've had people come in and say "Oh we've been watching Cesar all week.. he'll be fine"

[FranMan]

I am sure his dogs love him and have better OB then 95% of this forum (me included). I am sure lots of people don't like him or his ways. So what? Lots of people will have better dogs because of him. Even if it just keeps people from getting made at there dog because they don't understand it. His main points are good. Wear the dog out (which most dog owners don't do), discipline (again most owner don’t) and then love.

[Curbside Prophet]

Given a choice of who I want to handle my dog, Ian wins by a land slide. Having met Dr. Dunbar, briefly, and having read some of his study in dog behavior, I'm confident that his approach is far more progressive than that of Cesar. I feel like if I picked up a dog training book from the 60's and early 70's, I'd find the same training techniques as those of Cesar's...he really only gives basic correlations to wolf behavior and wolf pack dynamics and some basics on fulfilling a dog's needs. So what! I'm with most people regarding the show, I'm more interested in the dogs and their problems, not Cesar's techniques. While Cesar was making his way to the states, Dr. Dunbar was studying dog pack behavior...which is subtly different than wolf pack behavior. I believe Dr. Dunbar's conclusions from this study has spawned a humane and logical form of training appropriate for the modern dog and handler. For those of you who haven't researched the work Dr. Dunbar has done, this is merely another opinion...an opinion I'm comfortable with, and Elsa seems to be happy with too. I can't argue with the results, and I qualify that by saying I haven't always perscribed to positive reinforcement methods. I can't debate that Cesar has a 30 minute gift to help people help dogs...his methods work great for TV. However, my belief in Dr. Dunbar's techniques is that it's more applicable to everyone, although it doesn't make for good TV. So those of you hoping for a TV show featuring Dr. Dunbar, don't hold your breath. I'd instead receommend reading a book, attending a seminar, or enrolling your dog in one of his schools.