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Old 02-24-2007, 03:20 PM   #61
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I like Cesar but I think there are both good and bad things about the show. I like that it teaches dog behavior and shows people that dogs do not think like humans and should not be treated as such. So many dog problems people have stem from their expectations of the dog understanding behaviors and emotions that are strictly human.

What I don't like about the show is that it does show some things that people should not attempt on their own. They do say not to on the show but a lot of people don't pay any attention to those sorts of warnings. It's also, like any TV show, cut together and so people may miss some of the subtle but important aspects of some things because they were edited out.

Overall I think the show has benefited dogs in general and maybe encouraged people with problems to find a local pro to help them out.
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I saw Pat Miller at a conference. She was excellent. We only have speakers that use positive methods, CM does some things OK but I don't like the way he checks the dogs. That may make the dog fear the owner & not do an unwanted behaviour, but doesn't guarantee it won't do the same behaviour to someone else, worse still a child.
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I like Cesar but I think there are both good and bad things about the show. I like that it teaches dog behavior and shows people that dogs do not think like humans and should not be treated as such. So many dog problems people have stem from their expectations of the dog understanding behaviors and emotions that are strictly human.

What I don't like about the show is that it does show some things that people should not attempt on their own. They do say not to on the show but a lot of people don't pay any attention to those sorts of warnings. It's also, like any TV show, cut together and so people may miss some of the subtle but important aspects of some things because they were edited out.

Overall I think the show has benefited dogs in general and maybe encouraged people with problems to find a local pro to help them out.
There are many things that people see on TV that they are warned not to try. Some people just like to prove that Darwin was right......
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:36 AM   #64
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Re: Cesar Milan

If you really want to know who the real "Dog Whisper" is? I have a book that was wrote by Dr. Dare Miller Ph.D. called "Dog-Master System". This book has been around since the 60's and its very informative on how to train your dog. He doesnt like the way Cesar Millan use choked chains to train a dog, it makes the dog behave poorly. Dr. Miller use different type of chains he invented, alot of people tried to copy his way of teaching a dog including his chain links.
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I am not a great Ceasar fan- some methods I flat out disagree with- one of them is the "flooding" method- where you take what the dog is afraid of and force it- I have seen in real life this backfire as much as help.
However- some of the situations, the owner has allowed things to progress way too far. Especially with working types that havent had enough exercise etc. Granted- we really do not know how long he worked with the dog- but it is rather sad that with even just a few weeks of training- the dog has a better life and the peopel as well.
I do find him chovanisitic a bit.. But - what the hey- sometimes he is right. Woman need to step up to the plate too.. I am a licensed certified trainer- and when I use to show up for classes I taught and all it had was my first initial and my last name- in Sch.. classes- I use to get some looks too.. lol. I am 5'6 120 pounds but I know how to handle a dog in this physical sport.. Not to be rude- but if he talked to me the way I have seen him talk to some of the woman on the show, I would take him out.. lol.. Then again- I would have no reason to call him either.. lol. I never asked my husband how to handle the kids, and sure as you know what would do the same with one of the dogs- its dealt with and stopped. It never progresses to the stages I have seen some of the situations by the time they call someone..
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OK, this thread is 5 months old and doesn't need to be dragged out again. I'm locking it!
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