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03-25-2008, 09:50 PM
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#1 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Washington
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| Escape Artist We have a 10 month old siberian puppy that has found ever way imaginable to escape from his kennel. I am hoping to find help, suggestions ideas on how to get him to stop! It's your standard chain link kennel.... |
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03-26-2008, 01:55 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist I've never owned a husky, however I have had friends who have owned them. All I can tell you from their experience is that they DO NOT like to be in a kennel and it is something you have to teach them. You have to make the kennel worth staying in or they will find a way out. Just when you think they cant dig out or jump over the fence they will chew their way our and if you think im kidding you should see some photos of dog crates that have met an angry husky inside.
Rather than trying to fix your kennel i think your best bet is to work with the dog. Maybe play with him inside the kennel do tricks an give rewards inside the kennel, let the pup know this is his safe place and nothing can hurt him when he is in this area. Put toys, maybe a familiar dog bed in with him. Also, i would suggest using small amounts of time at first and then increasing the amount of time the pup has to stay in the kennel before leaving him in for a long period of time. |
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03-26-2008, 09:27 AM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist Does he go over/under/through. |
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03-26-2008, 10:50 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist ... And are distractions visible through the kennel? Is it next to a fence that faces a street? What's he doing when you find him outside of the kennel? |
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03-27-2008, 10:31 PM
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#5 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Washington
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| Re: Escape Artist He doesn't dig under because he the kennel is on stall mats (they are used for horse stalls). He basically has been tearing apart the chain link. This is actually the second kennel that he has done this to. We have an 8 year old shepard/lab mix in a larger kennel. We had kept him with her and he escaped from that kennel. She never followed him out. After being out for a while he will sometimes jump our back fence. Our neighbors behind us have five acres and the part directly behind us in a wooded area. It is becoming increasingly difficult to get him back. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks. |
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03-27-2008, 10:38 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist I would keep him inside since he knows how to escape his kennel outside. |
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03-27-2008, 10:40 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist Quote:
Originally Posted by Durbkat I would keep him inside since he knows how to escape his kennel outside. | No.
No no no.
Just... NO.
LOL.
This is a dog that destroys chain link fence. He can break through walls, annihilate the house, etc. I just woudl not do it. LOL.
Might not be what you want to hear, but maybe a live wire inside the fence. |
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03-27-2008, 10:53 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist For now I'd say hold on. Lots of dogs go through a psychotic thing around a year. We can barrage you with endless questions trying to diagnose a problem remotely, or you could seek help from some professional nearby that has dealt in this kind of thing. I spent weeks leading up to a point I could work with my dog closely for a week nonstop.
Durb, you've seen this one right?
Most people are not as willing as I to lose some things around the house. Pfft, couches are a dime a dozen... Unless you want them to match.  |
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03-27-2008, 11:28 PM
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#9 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist That's why you'd crate the dog.  If it can destroy that and get out then they can get a metal dog box. |
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03-27-2008, 11:32 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist Quote:
Originally Posted by Durbkat That's why you'd crate the dog.  If it can destroy that and get out then they can get a metal dog box. | He chews through metal chain link.......
plastic and wire crates are nothing LOL. But metal dog boxes should work. |
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03-27-2008, 11:34 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist Quote:
Originally Posted by Durbkat I would keep him inside since he knows how to escape his kennel outside. | Well, sorry, that's all we had to go on there Durb. There's still not enough info to really give them any idea what to even start with. |
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03-27-2008, 11:36 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist Yep, I guess your right. Just have to wait till they respond. |
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03-27-2008, 11:37 PM
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#13 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Washington
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| Re: Escape Artist We bought electric fencing for the perimeter of our yard. Haven't had time to get it put up. I'm starting to think a short one around the kennel might help. Yah, inside is NOT and option. He was inside and decided to chew threw the toilet supply line. Got a new bathroom out of it, not the way I wanted to do it. From that point, he was outside. We originally wanted him as a inside/outside dog, but after the bathroom thing we had second thoughts. I was thinking about calling the breeder we bought him from to see what suggestions she might have. |
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03-27-2008, 11:39 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist We used 6 foot cattle panels for my husky when I was a kid...no chewing, or tearing that apart; we also had some form of barrier thing running under ground along the fence...don't remember what it was, though, but it was to stop him from being able to dig out... AND over the top of the run we had to eventually run an electric strand. A couple of times trying to get out, and touching the strand and he got the idea to leave well enough alone. This was a dog that was exercised TONS too...but just did not want to stay in a kennel when we had to leave. We preferred to have him be able to be outdoors rather than inside, too, because then he could have his swimming pool, water, and food, toys, etc...especially in the summer; winter we crated him inside usually when we left.
I would say 1) invest in a better stronger type of fencing for him 2) consider an electric strand if he still goes over 3) make sure he is exercised before being put in the kennel 4) leave lots of fun toys and bones out with him, especially toys that keep his mind occupied, like a stuffed Kong 5) Until you get proper accomodations, crate him in a safe room while you are away...no use risking him getting away and possible hit by a car, stolen, or otherwise injured. |
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03-27-2008, 11:41 PM
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#15 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist How much exercise does he get? Rbark takes his husky for long walks/runs and he does great in the house, for the most part. If you crate him while you are gone, he won't be able to destroy things. |
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03-27-2008, 11:49 PM
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#16 | | Junior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist He is out with the other dog several hours a day, constant running and playing. The thing about crates.... Ikaika (It's Hawaiian for Strong) basically freaks out in the crate. He has been like that since we got him. Crying and whining, pacing not to mention that he is one of those dogs that will poop in the crate even though he would have to lay in it. That's kinda a problem in his kennel too, he poops so much that I don't want to leave toys in there, cause they will just get gross. Oh, what a challenge.  |
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03-27-2008, 11:50 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist What kind of training has he had? How is training and exercise worked into the daily schedule? Does he jump fence and run if you wait around long enough? How much time are you ready to devote to fixing this? Is an outside only dog something you want? Do you have an estimate of how long it takes for him to start finding a way out? Is there livestock on that acreage that would put his life in danger? When was the first time he did this? What was his worst behavior prior to that? What is his feeding schedule?
... and on and on and on... |
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03-28-2008, 12:17 AM
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#18 | | Junior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist We took him to a six week training session. Learned the basics. We don't have a "structured" training routine when we are outside with them. There is no real pattern to his escaping and jumping the fence. We can go a week without him doing anything, and there will be days when he will get out two or three times. No livestock in the acreage, just two dobies. He didn't really have any "bad" behavior before that, just the normally puppy stuff....chewing and the like. He eats twice a day morning and night. We have him on Nutro Large breed food. He was eating it so fast that we got one of those bowls with the columns in the middle to slow him down. We are willing to spend the time, we are a two parent working family with two kids, so we don't have hours on end a day. With summer around the corner, it will be easier to have more time. |
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03-28-2008, 05:45 AM
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#19 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Escape Artist Ok, what gauge was the chain link, Farm supply store sell prefab kennel runs that are 14 gauge. I could chew through them. Usually regular chain link fencing is 11 gauge. It's better, but I would order from your local chain link company 9 gauge. If he gets through that rename him Houdini. |
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