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Old 01-20-2008, 04:05 PM   #1
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Abby chasing cat!

Abby will NOT leave the cat alone! She will chase the cat every moment she can. She will not listen and I'm getting tired of yelling "NO" to her. What can I do to stop this.
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Re: Abby chasing cat!

Now is the perfect time to teach leave it, that way if she gives chase you say leave it and she should stop. Until you have that command down abby should be leashed to you when not in her crate. Another option is to let the cat teach her the lesson, as long as the cat is declawed.
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Re: Abby chasing cat!

not sure how to teach that. And the cat has it front claws but is a 16 pound weenie and won't use them. Keeping her on a leash by my side won't do. I move around so much I would be dragging her.
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Re: Abby chasing cat!

To teach leave it you put a treat in your hand and close it. Let the dog smell it and say "leave it" when the dog stops pawing at your hand or doing whatever its doing trying to get the treat you give it to the dog. Then after you have that down you work on having your hand open and saying leave it and everytime abby goes for it you close your hand. Then when she stops you open your hand and continue till she stops trying to go for it. Then after that you put the treat on the floor and cover it up with your hand everytime she goes for it, this part takes longer, then keep working on it till all you have to do is a verbal correction to get her to stop going for it. Soon you should be able to drop her favorite treat down and say leave it and she will leave it. After you have perfected it, use it on the cat when she tries to go for it.
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Re: Abby chasing cat!

I'm a little surprised that she's not responding to "No!" That's the one command that should make her freeze in her tracks/stop what she is doing instantly.
Yes, you can teach a new command like leave it but, what happened to that life saving command of "NO"? Frankly, I'd work on that one....no means no! Some things you do to add more leverage to that command....clap your hands, stomp your foot, cut off her angle of attack and as a last resort...a squirt gun or a flying magazine flung towards her....get back to having her stopping dead on "NO!".
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:32 AM   #6
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Re: Abby chasing cat!

first of all, dogs chase things. That is what dogs do. It is hard wired into them. You are going to have to alter that chase response and it is not going to be easy or conveninet since the chase response to the cat has been established. this is going to require some WORK and consistancy on your part.

At Dog School, where I am learning a LOT (the dog already seems to know everything), one thing the instructor told us is that pet owners drive her nuts..... They have a situation they need to stop and they do the same thing OVER and OVER and it does not work (this is the definition of insanity.. doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results). She says, no one considers coming up with something NEW.

Well, I had NEVER thought of that..... and you have come here for advice so you HAVE realized NO is not working... so you need to come up with something new.

so, here is the thing. Your dog has found great fun with chasing the cat. What can YOU do that will be more fun that cat chasing? I would suggest, FIRST, to get a really reliable recall on this dog. That is a "come here" that the dog comes for NO MATTER WHAT. Does your dog come NO MATTER WHAT? I would guess not (since he is chasing the cat...).

Teaching him LEAVE IT as stated above, and a reliable recall should help you control this cat chasing thing.

Start with the dog on a line with NO CAT AROUND and call the dog. When he looks at you click the clicker (this marks the correct behavior) and reward him.. just for the looking. As he gets to looking at you (hoping for the click and treat) up the anti and no require him to face you before you click and treat.. when you get that, up the anti again and click and reward only when he takes a step towards you... and so on until he comes to you each and every time. ALWAYS praise him for coming and make that praise (both treats and verbal lavish.. and if it makes YOU sound silly do it anyway because it works on the dog. Always have treats with you and always treat when the dog comes. I carry em with me. Even when the behavior is established and occaisional trest is a good idea. Keeps 'em coming back.

And use high bvalue treats. Use something the dog is really nuts for.. pieces of hot dog, cheese, ham.. whatever the dog will really really like, cut to the size of 1/2 dime. It isn't the quantitiy that gets 'em thinking about you it is the quality. Dog cookies are fine but not high motivators.

Yes.. I too think you are going to have to use a leash. Sorry if it is inconvenient but dogs and training (like kids and training) are not always convenient. I would also never allow the dog and the cat in the same space with out physical control until you can make the dog see YOU as the best fun in Town.. better than chasing the cat.

Oh yeah.. and about this:

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Keeping her on a leash by my side won't do. I move around so much I would be dragging her.
You need to teach your dog to heel by your (usually left) side. I have two commands for walking next to me. One is HEEL and on this the dog never takes her eyes off my face. It is intense and it is meant to be intense. She sits when I stop and starts when I start and keeps her eyes on my face ALL the time.. NO glancing away. Not easy to teach but with a clicker and rewards I have gotten it. I don't do this for real long stretches as it is a very focused command and I want her to be successful when I ask for it.

I also have "BY ME" which is a lower form of Heel. At "by me" the dog walks at my side but can look around (so if I am taking a long walk where she has to be next to my left side it is more conmfortable for her and less intense in its level of focus). She checks in with me by looking at my face periodically (and to get taht going I used a clicker and treats.. and still do on occaision).

In both these commands when I stop, she sits and when I turn in either direction she keeps her head by my left leg. I taught her both these commands with a clicker and rewards.

Many good dog trainers teach these commands with no leash at all. I am not that talented (yet) so I used a leash to get the thing going. Now, a few months later, I can get both things going with no leash. I am sure a seasoned trainer could have gotten where I am today quicker, and be well past where I am today. However, I have only one dog to teach and the whole clicker thing is new to me.. so we may not progress fast but at least we DO progress.

In all training keep the sessions short. I usually do not do any single thing for more than 3 minutes.. usually less.. and when I get whatever I am working on for that day in two repetitions I quit.. take a break and move on to something else. Somedays I cannot GET two repetitions and then I move on anyhow.

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