[Dog athlete trainer]

hi im new and was wondering what is the naturally strongest dog breed in terms of pulling weight, carrying weight, etc. also id like to mention that i dont care how well they can fight or how strong thier bite is. that is of no interest to me. im looking to develop a weight training program for powerfull dog breeds that consists of sled pulls, sand bag carries, etc. i just would like to know what dog breed would be optimal to train. also i know some dogs are strong for thier size but im mostly interested in the overall strongest dog that would be best suited for this type of excercise. thx for all opinions in advance.

[Pawper]

Greater Swiss Mountain dosg are really good pullers......and beautiful! Pitts are good strong pullers

[JayF]

As stated above, Pits are probably the best pullers around. Not only are they capable of pulling a great deal for their weight, they usually are the record holders. Additionally other working breeds such as molosser (includes such breeds as mastiff, st bernard, great dane) are found to be good pullers, but due to their size often have limitations and more risk of injury.
Hands down your best breed to work with would be the pit bull, although I am not sure which distinction (american pit bull terrier, stratshire bull terrier etc) would be optimal.

Also just realized that dogs breeds bred for the work of pulling sleds in theory should be pretty good choices as well. I am no expert but I am sure a few hours of google could yeld a good concept of the optimal breed.

[filox]

I guess any of this...

Alaskan Malamute, Bernese Monuntain dog, Great Pyrinees, Great Swiss Mountain dog, Kuvasz, Sain Bernard, Siberian Husky, Tibetan Mastiff.

A particualar dog of any of those breeds may be stronger than other, deppending on idividual muscle mass and fitness.


Cheers.

[darlin]

Go to youtube.com and type in Olde english bulldog weight pulling. I know pitts can pull like 30 times their own weight and olde english bulldogs can pull 20 times their own weight. I'm starting to train mine to pull a small buggy. He loves to work and man is he strong. No bite or aggression that i've seen.

[Dog athlete trainer]

i just did a quick search and have dicovered that pitbull and pitbull cross breeds are banned in my province. which narrows down my choices somewhat i suppose. id also like to state that a friendly breed dog that will take well to other ppl and animals is a big plus for me.

[Pawper]

I understand that you have a ban but let me just say that pitts can be very people and animal friendly.......look into mountain dogs, they are great pullers!!

[Dog athlete trainer]

im also astounded that champion record holding dogs have pulled as much as 200 times there own bodyweight and over 10,000 lbs! im assuming all these loads where on wheels and not just dead weight right? if im not misaken a dog breed for pulling could even pull a minivan or a car from standstill with little to no training. wow i gotta admit im pretty amazed with these statistics.

[Pawper]

Dogs back in the day were known as poor mens horses....they pulled carts and wagons for people that couldnt afford horses

[Dog athlete trainer]

personally i believe each dog is differnet regardless of breed. and i think the bans are out of line. it's like banning a certain race of ppl from entering your country because crime rate is high among thier ethnicity. its sterotyping bottom line. and its not the dogs fault that thier owners were incompetent.

[Pawper]

APPLAUSE!!!!! I agree totally

[Equest94]

I heard that Pit bulls can pull at least 30 times their weight. So, for their smaller/medium size structure I believe that ratio would make them the strongest breed. That's a shame that they are banned in you area. A good friend of mine breed Staffordshire Pit bull terriers and hers are two of the most outgoing and lovable dogs I have ever met.

[Pawper]

Ive seen one pull down a small tree it was tied to to chase a rabbit......roots and all and went tearing a** down the street! Quite a sight!

[trumpetjock]

I've seen pictures of newfoundlands doing some pretty big pulling. They're more like horses though it seems, rather than athletic pullers.

[Barking_Mad]

Rather biasedly, I'm gonna say Alaskan Malamute or any Sled Dog/Husky. Any work dog that has been bred to pull for the past couple of milleniums.

[Curbside Prophet]

Originally Posted by Barking_Mad

Rather biasedly, I'm gonna say Alaskan Malamute or any Sled Dog/Husky. Any work dog that has been bred to pull for the past couple of milleniums.

Actually, they were bred to be efficient pullers (marathon runners), not weight lifters pulling sleds.

[Barking_Mad]

Originally Posted by Curbside Prophet

Actually, they were bred to be efficient pullers (marathon runners), not weight lifters pulling sleds.

Quite true, ta for the correction Curbside.

[Curbside Prophet]

Well, endurance is a strength too BM. So you're also technically right. The duration of time just happens to be over a longer period of time. I think what the OP is looking for is the dog that does the most work over a short period of time.

Would it be accurate to say that since mass is a factor in how much work can be done, the dog that is the most dense is the strongest? I'm missing something here, someone please help me.

[trumpetjock]

For short burst strength I'm pretty sure the APBT holds the record for total weight AND weight in relation to body weight. As far as distance runners, it'd be have to be the Siberian husky and/or Alaskan malamute I would think.

[Dog athlete trainer]

i have narrowed it down to st bernard, newfoundlander, Great Pyrinees, english mastiff, great swiss mountain dog, and maybe a great dane though they seem more sleek and built for speed then heavy short distance pulls. what are your guys thoughts on the following dogs any of them seem hands down a better choice then another one?