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Doggies4Evers · 04-27-2007, 09:45 PM

In a North Carolina "shelter," dogs and puppies just weeks old are crammed on top of each other inside a windowless, dark "kill box," where they are gassed with carbon monoxide, killed for no reason at all. They say theres no room but look at the video loads of room and no problems, these dogs have no health problems, they arnt evil and mean, you can see how sweet and loving they are. Etc.

***WARNING, EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO - NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN***
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMR9scfrsx0

I want to bring awareness to people, please let it stay, I want them to know
whats happening under there own noses and maybe they can stop it or help or etc

POOR PUPPIES AND DOGGIES.......

RonE · 04-27-2007, 09:52 PM

I don't need to watch the video. I know this is a scene that's repeated every day in every state in one form or another and I know I can save maybe ten or twelve of them in my lifetime.

I do think anyone who refuses to spay or neuter their dog should be FORCED to watch the video or, better still, to visit some of these shelters and watch a few executions.

RonE · 04-27-2007, 10:12 PM

I'm not for a moment trying to justify what happens. It makes me sick and it makes me really angry.

But perhaps the reason they had "tons of room" is because they were killing tons of dogs and they were making room for the tons of new abandoned and neglected dogs that show up every day.

The shelter in the city I live in might get over a 100 dogs from a single raid on a puppy mill. This seems to happen several times each year and this is in addition to the regular steady stream of abandoned and neglected dogs.

Don't blame the shelters. Blame the people that are responsible for bringing all these unwanted dogs into the world.

Amaya-Mazie-Marley · 04-27-2007, 11:19 PM

I live in NC, and I had no clue it was that bad down here.

Doggies4Evers · 04-29-2007, 10:08 PM

Thats no excuse, they did have alot of room,
they would have showed that they were adding alot more dogs to the shelter if
thats a case, or taped a video of that with them or someone talking etc.
Give the video more voluem or whatever.

RonE · 04-29-2007, 10:28 PM

What, exactly, are you accusing them of? Do you think they kill dogs for fun?

Your passion and anger are understandable, but I maintain that they are misdirected.

Some ways to kill dogs are more humane than others but, in the end, they're still dead and it's not the fault of the executioners.

People come on this forum and casually mention that they don't plan to spay or neuter their dog because they'd like to have some puppies. (Puppies are SO cute.) Or they wonder what to do because they think their dog is pregnant and, hey, how in the world did THAT happen? And then they wonder why we come down on them like a ton a bricks and they get their feelings hurt. Aw, gee.

See, I'm angry, too and I don't need a video on YouTube to remind me of why.

Doggies4Evers · 04-29-2007, 10:40 PM

is it the executioners fault, they are the ones taken lifes, that shelter there, wont take money or any kind of help with the outside, so they are willing killing dogs, because they wont get extra money to build bigger so they dont have to kill so much, or let people take dogs to foster care from here or anything to help out them, the dogs and the shelter. Since they arnt doing alternatives to help themselfs or the animals then they are basicly killing them for wrong reasons. They arnt doing everything in there power to help these wonderful animals out. If they did all they can and allow outside help then maybe it wouldnt be so bad in there shelter, or anything.

They own and work there, they should be doing whats best for the dogs and there work place they paid for or build themselfs and helping all area's of work in any way possiable, but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I always find dog hates and abuses at certien places like this and other places dealing with the wel-fare of dogs, etc.

RonE · 04-29-2007, 10:48 PM

Where are they getting all those dogs from? Stealing them from backyards and happy homes?

Doggies4Evers · 04-29-2007, 10:56 PM

Lets not forget the ending, the dump the dead puppies and adult dogs in the public garbage and shows a truck picking it up and dumping it in the back and you see all the furry dead bodies.

RonE · 04-29-2007, 10:57 PM

You can't answer a single question, can you? How old are you? Am I debating a 12-year-old?

Where do you think those dogs came from? How did they end up where they did?

Try to think about that before you come back here with more of your YouTube links.

Amaya-Mazie-Marley · 04-29-2007, 11:00 PM

I disagree, its not the "executioners" fault. Its the owner that originally had these puppies and dogs. They dumped them at this shelter for stupid reasons, and if they had their dog spayed or nutered in the first place then it wouldn't have happened. People get dogs, when they think they can handle it, in the end when they can't they just get rid of them. The people killing dogs and puppies are only doing their job, its horrible and sick, but its their job. Those dogs they were showing on that video were not in good condition at all. They looked horrible and sick and they probably were. I didn't see any extra room either. Its also their job to get rid of strays after 3 days, most of those were probably strays, as horrible as that is, its their job. They get rid of strays because theres no room for any more, so they weren't just killing those dogs for fun. I disagree with shelters that kill period, but its not their fault all these people are dumping off unwanted dogs.

Doggies4Evers · 05-10-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggies4Evers

is it the executioners fault, they are the ones taken lifes, that shelter there, wont take money or any kind of help with the outside, so they are willingly killing dogs, because they wont get extra money to build bigger so they dont have to kill so much, or let people take dogs to foster care from here or anything to help out them, the dogs and the shelter. Since they arnt doing alternatives to help themselfs or the animals then they are basicly killing them for wrong reasons. They arnt doing everything in there power to help these wonderful animals out. If they did all they can and allow outside help then maybe it wouldnt be so bad in there shelter, or anything.

They own and work there, they should be doing whats best for the dogs and there work place they paid for or build themselfs and helping all area's of work in any way possiable, but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I always find dog hates and abuses at certien places like this and other places dealing with the wel-fare of dogs, etc.

Yeah I guess it wouldnt be there faults, I would never do what they do! Never Ever!
However I still stand by they arnt doing everything humanly possiable to help the dogs. etc.

xoxluvablexox · 05-10-2007, 06:18 PM

It's not thier fault the dogs are stuck in the shelters. I don't think I could ever do their job and don't understand how they could stomach it though.
Atleast they're doing it in a humane way and not just shocking the animal and slitting it's throat. (sorry for the visual image.)

Doggies4Evers · 05-10-2007, 06:39 PM

true there is worser deaths however, they arnt doing everything humanly possiable to help these dogs in any way shape or form, just oh time up even though we didnt do all we should/could of done you shall pay for it by being killed with a bunch of others who we didnt put all your time money and effort in to helping. They dont allow any kind of outside help yet other shelter's do to help the animals in all ways possiable, not all shelters like this one, since they say they dont want to do alternatives and outside help to help out the dogs, there shelter building, etc. People who kill the dogs might not be really a fault, but they arnt helping to make this problem of whats happening and going on any better for the animals or the shelter to open up outside help, etc. Prob only care about money.

Am I wrong about what I am saying? Am I missing the picture?
Is it really the animals faults? The animals we care, love and even own right now?

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My fiance, Adam, lived about 5 miles from that place. He even adopted a dog from there. yes, it all still happens. No, they havn't improved things. No, they most likely won't because the government doesn't care if they follow the law...the law being that one dog has to be gased at a time and the chamber has to have windows and light and such.

If you want to help, e-mail the people at the end of the video and encourage other people to. That's the only thing we can do about it....

I've seen a lot worse first hand though...Caney, Kansas has a dog pound that doesn't even have an adoption policy...and it doesn't help that the 'dog catcher', Tony, likes to torture the dogs. I've watched him pull dogs that have frozen to death from their cages. They froze to death because the building is pure concrete. The dogs have not so much as a cardboard box. There are no doggy doors. Methods of killing the dogs...I've seen a few shot, some frozen to death, some drown, some suffocated, one was beat to death...god knows what else he's done. The cops and town gov. doesn't care as they're the ones who are dealing all the drugs.

If you REALLY want to stop things like this, you have to write the people responable. Or, in my case, make plans to become an animal cop so I can directly stop these things.

This was written from someone on a non dog forum.

sweetardnas1885 · 05-10-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggies4Evers

Yeah I guess it wouldnt be there faults, although they may not have passed school and therefor cant get better suitable jobs, I would never do what they do! Never Ever!
However I still stand by they arnt doing everything humanly possiable to help the dogs. etc.

Okay, now you have ticked me off. How can you sit back and accuse someone who works in a shelter, even in a high kill shelter, of being uneducated? Many shelter workers, not all however, are licensed veterinary technicians. In many states a licensed vet tech had to go through 2+ years of school and/or took a nationally recognized test to obtain such credentials. Maybe if YOU did well in school, you would have better equipped yourself for such a debate. As almost all of your posts have contained spelling errors and/or are a gramatical nightmare. However, I suppose it would be unfair of me to assume that you are uneducated or ,in you words, "may not have passed school" based on the posts that you have presented us with. Or would it?

And, honey, where do you think these shelters get all this money (that you so readily accuse them of not taking) from? Most shelters get money from the government (which isn't always enough) or from private donations (yet again, not alot). It takes more time and money that they often times do not have to nurse a sick animal back to health than it does to get the healthy ones adopted. By the time all of the sick animals are healthy, they either don't have the funds with which to advertise the adoptable ones or there is another load of sick one coming in or they simply don't get better and die anyway. In any situation money is lost that could be alloted elsewhere to get other healthy animals adopted. These shelters do not make a profit. They are not in it for the money; they are in this field to help the animals the best way they can with the assets the are alloted. If you can do better, please do so. Maybe you could stop war, famine, and disease whilst you are at it.

Doggies4Evers · 05-10-2007, 09:48 PM

I am not talking about shelters that used the needle to put down dogs.
I am talking about shooting, poisoning, torture, beat up, gases, skinned lived, etc dogs.
I am not talking about the wonderful vets and shelters that do the best death for the animal which is the needle. I understand not all dogs/other will have a happy ending.

However, I just know there methiod is wrong. For the millionth time not doing all they could/can/should do to help every area/field of there work place. Good for the animals,
good for the workers, good for the shelter building and holding area, good for all.

RonE · 05-10-2007, 09:53 PM

I suspect that Doggies4Evers is very young and naive.

I was young and naive a long time ago, too. Fortunately, there was no Internet so I was able to hide it better.

xoxluvablexox · 05-10-2007, 09:56 PM

No internet?? There was a time when people weren't obsessed with a computer screen? I was born to late into this world

lol

sweetardnas1885 · 05-10-2007, 10:15 PM

[quote=RonE;70229]I suspect that Doggies4Evers is very young and naive.
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I'll have to agree with you there!

Doggies4Evers · 05-10-2007, 10:49 PM

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My fiance, Adam, lived about 5 miles from that place. He even adopted a dog from there. yes, it all still happens. No, they havn't improved things. No, they most likely won't because the government doesn't care if they follow the law...the law being that one dog has to be gased at a time and the chamber has to have windows and light and such.

If you want to help, e-mail the people at the end of the video and encourage other people to. That's the only thing we can do about it....

I've seen a lot worse first hand though...Caney, Kansas has a dog pound that doesn't even have an adoption policy...and it doesn't help that the 'dog catcher', Tony, likes to torture the dogs. I've watched him pull dogs that have frozen to death from their cages. They froze to death because the building is pure concrete. The dogs have not so much as a cardboard box. There are no doggy doors. Methods of killing the dogs...I've seen a few shot, some frozen to death, some drown, some suffocated, one was beat to death...god knows what else he's done. The cops and town gov. doesn't care as they're the ones who are dealing all the drugs.

If you REALLY want to stop things like this, you have to write the people responable. Or, in my case, make plans to become an animal cop so I can directly stop these things.

can we stay on subject.