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Old 04-10-2007, 02:23 PM   #1
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Puppies on the way



We went for Shalva's ultrasound today.... and it appears that Shalva will be the proud parent of a rather large litter of Flat Coats..... the vet found at least 9 pups on the ultrasound (All are spoken for and have been for about six months now). We are a tad stressed about this big litter but it will all work out..... my girls do whelp naturally and that is important to me...... I had a feeling it would be a big litter when after 2.5 weeks of pregnancy she started getting wings at her waist... a sure sign of a shape change.... I am thrilled, nervous, excited, stressed.... my puppy people are ecstatic.

now just for the record.....


I breed for the love of my breed, not for money.. the term professional implies that breeding is what one does for a living.

I never breed unless I plan on keeping a puppy, I mean what other reason is there to breed.... why would I want to risk my girl if I weren't keeping a pup.... and every litter is risky.

I show my dogs in multiple venues..... conformation, obedience, and hunt tests.... I have been toying with rally but am not sure its competetive enough..... (just my opinion)..... but I make my dogs prove they are worth breeding.

I do all health clearances..... and some extras......and provide copies of these to my puppy folks

I do not use the dogs that I have.... I have never bred two of my dogs..... ie. my male and my female.... the best dog is not necessarilly the one ya gots. The sire of this litter is a successful dog out west.....

I interview all of my puppy people and say no to more people than I say yes to..... and I DO refund any deposits.... I don't want someone taking a puppy they aren't really sure about because they don't want to lose their deposit.

Every family must have a fenced yard.......or demonstrate to me that they have managed to keep a dog safe in the past..... I do have families in NYC where a fence is not a possibility.... but they provided many references and they live on the 20th story so they cant just open the door.

I do check references.....

I make each individual initial each provision of my 8 page contract...... and in addition sign seperately a right of first refusal which states that I have first rights to the puppy if ever they can't keep him/her...... my puppies always come back here......

I take their puppies when they go on vacation...... my husband and I will teach them how to train......

all of my puppies go home on a natural diet.... with just basic vaccines to keep them protected and a microchip where I am listed as first contact.....
while I can trust myself to keep the data updated... I am not always so sure that puppy people remember to do that so I am first contact if the pup gets loose and is found they call me and then I will contact the owner...... get them their dog back and give them the standard lecture about having the pup safely contained.

I put up training information and husbandry and care information on a private link on the web so puppy folks can educate themselves before puppy goes home and they go home with a binder of information on dog care ...... poisonous plants..... clearances for both sire and dam..... photos...... training information and applications to the National breed club and local breed club.

Puppy people are required to join the national breed club

All of my non-performance/ show puppies are sold on a limited registration and I am co-owner on all of the other pups...... I by contract make all breeding decisions and approve all litters. If that provision is not followed I WILL Take back the dog.

I am not a professional breeder...... I am a sociologist and University Professor. I do not breed to make money. I think I made 14 bucks on my last litter if I didn't count incorrectly....

so before anyone started getting upset I figured I would state all of this and I would be happy to answer any questions about why I bred the dogs that I did....

nothing to hide here.
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:38 PM   #2
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Re: Puppies on the way

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nothing to hide here.

Except for maybe some of the pups! Where are they in those ultrasounds? Very cool nevertheless.
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Re: Puppies on the way

Shalva,
If more people were like you we wouldn't have the overpopulation problem we do now! I look forward to seeing the pups and I know the lucky folks getting these pups will be happy too. BTW, when is she due?

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. BTW, when is she due?
Thanks for the kind words and the complement..... I wasn't going to post about the pups at all I didn't want to create a ruckus.... but at the same time I think its important to see what a responsible breeder does..... and I was excited lolol

Mothers day weekend is when we should have pups on the ground.....
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LOL, how appropriate!
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Re: Puppies on the way

Congrats! I can't wait to see the little babies! Best wishes for a safe delivery!
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First time I have ever seen a puppy ultra-sound. How cool! Best of luck with your new litter!
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Awwww

Way to go, Shalva!
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Re: Puppies on the way

Congratulations! Thanks for sharing the ultrasounds...I have never seen one on a dog...how amazing!
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Good Luck With Pups So Glad You Do It The Right Way
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You are a very very good breeder! Cant wait to see pictures of those puppies!! Congragulations!
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CONGRATS ON THE PUPS, Icant wait to see the pups.
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COngrats. I dont think a ruckus would be neccasary from any one here as you DO proper breeding. Good for you for not being some money hingry sleeze bag who dosnt care about breeds and standards.
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COngrats. I dont think a ruckus would be neccasary from any one here as you DO proper breeding. Good for you for not being some money hingry sleeze bag who dosnt care about breeds and standards.
I agree but that is why I wrote all that I do because I didn't want anyone to assume anything.... I know when I see someone saying that they are breeding and I don't know them.... I also can assume that they aren't doing it right.... because most people don't..... I kinda raise my eyebrows a bit and give the hairy eyeball until I am proven wrong.... so its always a concern.
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Re: Puppies on the way

Those pups on the US are bigger then the foals at 60 days that I have US on. Love to see the little blobs.

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Re: Puppies on the way

Congratulations! I am SO glad that there are SOME people who are responsible like you. That's what I look for in a breeder! Someone who would turn me away...lol.

Can't wait to see the puppy pictures! You'll have to make a thread with updates and pictures.

There's nine puppies in Jaylie's litter...Isn't that the norm? At GDA most of the pups are from litters with either eight or nine.
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Re: Puppies on the way

Congratulations!

There's nothing better than reading over a 15 minute post about all the standards and requirements of a breeder! LOL

I've met a few Flat coats at our school, one of the partners has one as well. Cute, goofy thangs they are.

Can't wait to see puppy piccies!
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Re: Puppies on the way

Awesome! I can't wait to see thne pictures!!
One of my bosses clients has rough coated collies and her bitch just had a litter about two months ago. They are already for their new homes and she brought them for a check up a few days ago right before they went home and oh my gosh....what adorable pups! They are so furry and they had the cutest faces!
Good luck and hope everything goes well for you and mom!
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There's nothing better than reading over a 15 minute post about all the standards and requirements of a breeder! LOL
awwww it wasn't quite THAT long lololol
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Re: Puppies on the way

trick question

do you check for genetically transmitted disease even though you know your dont have it?

Do you make the new parents sign a contract?

do ou allow visits to see the dogs WITHOUT APPOINTMENTS? lmao
so when are we getting more pics. i can wait ya know, i truly wish there were more breeders like you
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