akita or cane corso

JJ Jones · 11-20-2009, 04:33 PM

For a a pet, guard, campanion, & all around house dog.but know few owners who have experience with these dogs, and yes I do have experience with dominant dogs.

anyone??

I know someone has had one of these breeds before.

Spicy1_VV · 11-20-2009, 08:28 PM

You are trying to chose?

What are you looking for.

Either or would seem like preference but what is your preference in a dog.

CC to me are big goofs, like large sized Pit Bulls or Boxers. Playful, goofy, energetic, juvenile, funny dogs. They are attached very much to their people.

solow · 11-20-2009, 08:34 PM

those canes look great not to mention a life time of saying ITS NOT A PIT
that will be entertainment really no exp. interested in your progress and picks if you get it.. I have seen very very few akitas the ones I have . Owner says I am not real comfortable having him around new people ...

GSDGAL · 11-20-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy1_VV

You are trying to chose?

What are you looking for.

Either or would seem like preference but what is your preference in a dog.

CC to me are big goofs, like large sized Pit Bulls or Boxers. Playful, goofy, energetic, juvenile, funny dogs. They are attached very much to their people.

as an owner of a CC I'd say go CC, they're the best dogs, funny, energetic, soft, protective, obedient and hilarious...they also tend to get on better with other dogs compared to akitas, but that also could be down to socialisation

JJ Jones · 11-20-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy1_VV

You are trying to chose?

What are you looking for.

Either or would seem like preference but what is your preference in a dog.

CC to me are big goofs, like large sized Pit Bulls or Boxers. Playful, goofy, energetic, juvenile, funny dogs. They are attached very much to their people.

Like I said I want a large impressive athletic guard dog.

Spicy1_VV · 11-20-2009, 09:06 PM

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Like I said I want a large impressive athletic guard dog.

It is simple. Pick what you want then find a good trainer.

If you have no preference in coat type, temperament, health issues, general disposition, ect, ect. There isn't anything that could be a sway from one of us.

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Originally Posted by solow

those canes look great not to mention a life time of saying ITS NOT A PIT
that will be entertainment really no exp. interested in your progress and picks if you get it.. I have seen very very few akitas the ones I have . Owner says I am not real comfortable having him around new people ...

Oh my yes

As well as Not a Boxer, Not a Rott, Not a Lab. People are amazing.

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as an owner of a CC I'd say go CC, they're the best dogs, funny, energetic, soft, protective, obedient and hilarious...they also tend to get on better with other dogs compared to akitas, but that also could be down to socialisation

That is basically what I was saying, those descriptions. I forgot to say affectionate. Mine is good with other dogs too (unless of course they are a threat). Most I've met are fine with others. I keep hearing how DA they are, but I also hear how hard and serious they are.

JJ Jones · 11-20-2009, 09:21 PM

I hear the Biggest issue with Cane Corso is consistency and breed-type variation; they are very inconsistent. Traditional Cane Corso and the two psuedo types Euro-Corso (heavy Neo, Boxer, AmStaff) and US-Corso (Neo, Rott and AmStaff/Pit).

Spicy1_VV · 11-20-2009, 09:37 PM

Yes that is an issue. I've seen the different physical types, not all are appealing to me.

You can go to the breeder who has what you like. With the right breeding, training, temperament and drives you can get a CC that is a good protector and ALSO looks impressive in your opinion.

JJ Jones · 11-20-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy1_VV

Yes that is an issue. I've seen the different physical types, not all are appealing to me.

You can go to the breeder who has what you like. With the right breeding, training, temperament and drives you can get a CC that is a good protector and ALSO looks impressive in your opinion.

I really like the looks of these cane corsos http://www.fortissimacanecorso.com/

But I don't think I could buy a puppy without looking at them in person.

Dog_Shrink · 11-20-2009, 10:20 PM

I would also ask if there would be kids around the dog. if so then corso... if strictly guard and you. and if you want a serious dog akita. Both will guard and work well but the akita will likely have a lot less patients for shenanagins. However if you really wanna deterr people from messing with you or your property get a tibetian mastiff

However if you DO go tibetian ya better really put your heart and soul into proper training.

JJ Jones · 11-20-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dog_Shrink

I would also ask if there would be kids around the dog. if so then corso... if strictly guard and you. and if you want a serious dog akita. Both will guard and work well but the akita will likely have a lot less patients for shenanagins.

No kids will be around the dog at all.

solow · 11-21-2009, 10:21 AM

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I would also ask if there would be kids around the dog. if so then corso... if strictly guard and you. and if you want a serious dog akita. Both will guard and work well but the akita will likely have a lot less patients for shenanagins. However if you really wanna deterr people from messing with you or your property get a tibetian mastiff

However if you DO go tibetian ya better really put your heart and soul into proper training.

Holy crap batman if you live in the north pole this is the guy to protect the hut man >> I have never seen this dog .

Hey jj I think you have to realize the vast majority of safety is the look of a threat ? I have a bully mix maybe lab. people knock on the door the dog goes to the front window and doest make a sound just puts his nose on the glass and they back off the porch. Then if they touch the handle he has a deep bark. This is more than enough . You have to think the thief will go I can probably get in there but the neighbor has no dog at all. mmmmmmmm I ll go there. I checked that site and those cc look great . Thanks now I want one.

Spicy1_VV · 11-21-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dog_Shrink

I would also ask if there would be kids around the dog. if so then corso... if strictly guard and you. and if you want a serious dog akita. Both will guard and work well but the akita will likely have a lot less patients for shenanagins. However if you really wanna deterr people from messing with you or your property get a tibetian mastiff

However if you DO go tibetian ya better really put your heart and soul into proper training.

Do you know any actual quality breeders in this country (US)?

Dakota Spirit · 11-21-2009, 03:42 PM

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Do you know any actual quality breeders in this country (US)?

Spicy, have you ever checked this site?
http://www.tibetanmastiffinfo.com/br...iff-Info.shtml

They have a list of breeders (including some in the US) that might be useful. I don't know how good a quality the breeders are though as I've never looked too deep into it.

Dog_Shrink · 11-21-2009, 04:18 PM

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Do you know any actual quality breeders in this country (US)?

I don't know any breeders, but I did speak to one ages ago but I think he was located in canada. He use to have a premier ad in dog fancy.

KasparovII · 11-22-2009, 11:34 PM

I've owned both. My Cane Corso was a top quality, beautiful specimen...but, as has been said, the variance in conformation is pretty broad...as is temperment. But I was very careful to get a Corso from probably the best breeding program at the time...and he cost a ton. Having said that, Enrico, my Corso, was a wonderful dog with a great personality...with people and other animals. They aren't the easiest to train, but they are very obedient if you put in the time. They are nothing like a pitbull, regardlesss of what you may here. They look more serious than they are, especially after their ears are given a "combat cut" .
The Akita Inu, in my opinion, is "unique". They are definitely the more serious of the two. They are very intelligent and very dignified. They are definitely more agressive than Corsos...especially with other dogs. But once they are properly trained, they are extremely conistent and rarely do anything stupid or out of character. I've owned two males and my first Akita "Kato" was the finest companion dog I have ever owned. While their coats are high maintainance (shedding) compared a Cane Corso, the best Akitas are some of the most beautiful and impressive dogs going. Needless to say, these are my two favorite breeds, but they have both become very popular, with a lot of people buying a couple of dogs and suddenly consider themselves "breeders. If I were going to get either I would go with a known breeder who has multiple examples of his dogs on his premises.You will spend more money for the dog, but you will know what to expect when the dog matures.

When I was in California I checked a Tibetan Mastiff breeder (maybe the best in the U.S.) and the dogs were extremely impressive, with a demeanor non unlike the Akita. Definitely a dog you just don't walk up to and pet. The name of the breeder was Drakyi Tibetan Mastiffs...great folks.

JJ Jones · 12-04-2009, 04:12 PM

I just wanted post good pics of some cane corsos I really like.

Dog_Shrink · 12-04-2009, 04:41 PM

I really like the brindle on the bottom left corner. I see you have no natural ear'd corsos in your images. Would you crop or go natural?

JJ Jones · 12-04-2009, 06:32 PM

I like cropped ears

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I really like the brindle on the bottom left corner. I see you have no natural ear'd corsos in your images. Would you crop or go natural?

solow · 12-06-2009, 08:18 AM

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I like cropped ears

looking at cropped and un cropped I noticed from an article there is a correct cut so to speak.. very interesting . Some were way to short some looked like a dobermin.
I personally dont like cropped but school me here ... does this affect them neg. in the weather ? does it depend on the way they are cut ? would there be any issues with sun burn on the inside in place like az sonoran dessert or seattle with the rain ?