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11-03-2009, 07:30 PM
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| Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix? (new pic)
We just adopted this girl, "Ellie": 
She's about 9 months old. The shelter said she was a Lab mix, but I immediately saw Pointer so I figured Pointer x Lab. But now I'm thinking she might be pure Pointer. She goes into that square stance quite often when she's being attentive. I'd go ahead and say she's purebred, but are there solid black Pointers??
Thanks all!
Here's a better pic:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/34840168@N05/
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11-03-2009, 08:47 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
My first thought was actually hound of some sort. | |
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11-03-2009, 09:08 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
Why do you think she looks like hound versus pointer? To me the ears give her away. | |
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11-03-2009, 09:18 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
I'm with Laurelin, she looks like a hound mix, I don't really see Pointer in her at all. | 
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11-03-2009, 09:28 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
I'm with the others. She doesn't appear to have the head shape, deep chest or the height of a pointer. | |
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11-03-2009, 09:29 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
Anyone want to tell me WHY | |
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11-03-2009, 09:32 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
I have no clue what she is except adorable  | |
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11-03-2009, 09:38 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
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Anyone want to tell me WHY
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I'm with the others. She doesn't appear to have the head shape, deep chest or the height of a pointer.
| The head ear and body shape are wrong for a pointer.
For example, these are pointers:   
Notice the difference in ear shape and size, muzzle shape, and also, notice how much deepr the chest is on the Pointers then on your dog. Your dog is adorable, but looks more like a Black Lab, hound mix.
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11-03-2009, 10:20 PM
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11-03-2009, 11:12 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
I agree with Keechak here, she definatly looks like she's got some walker in her! | |
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11-03-2009, 11:15 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
I agree with everyone else. The head shape is more lab than pointer on your dog. With those ears, she could be a pointer mix but because she doesn't seem as tall as a pointer plus her chest is quite a lot less deep than a pointer. So I would guess hound mix as well.
But it could just be that picture. Do you have any other pictures of her? Maybe a side view one? | |
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11-04-2009, 12:46 AM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
I also vote hound mix, possibly with Lab. Sorry but I just don't see any Pointer. She is very cute though. Her ears are adorable. | |
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11-04-2009, 01:07 AM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
AKC Pointer Standard: Quote:
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Liver, lemon, black, orange; either in combination with white or solid-colored. A good Pointer cannot be a bad color. In the darker colors, the nose should be black or brown; in the lighter shades it may be lighter or flesh-colored.
| Also, based on a quick Google search, I wouldn't say she's definitely NOT a pointer. She certainly wouldn't be the dish-faced type, and her ribs are a little wonky, but the face doesn't look too far off to me.    | |
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11-04-2009, 01:51 AM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
My first thought when I looked at her was hound. You really can't go ahead and say she's purebred, because she doesn't definitely look like any one breed. She has to be mixed with something. | |
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11-04-2009, 06:54 AM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
Pointer or not, she loks like she has a lot of energy in her. She looks like a race car gunning its engine just before the start of a race. I also bet she is fast. I hope you like to exercise.  | |
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11-04-2009, 10:50 AM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
Well I think she looks almost identical to my Lab/GSP mix. There are some pictures of her in the linked thread below. These pictures are her around 3.5-4 months. She is 6 months now. I'll try to post some more updated photos of her from my home computer after work. http://www.dogforums.com/2-general-d...roduction.html (Sable's Introduction)
Two of my friends both have litter mates, and she is definately the most "Pointer" like looking of the three, as far as body style are concerned. The other two are broader, both in the face and overall body.
Looking back at your original picture though, my girl does seem to have a deeper chest. So, who knows...
Looking at the photo you posted again, my girl does seem to have a deeper chest. So, who knows...
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11-04-2009, 12:00 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
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Originally Posted by Laurelin  | Google AKC color standards for GSPs, black is not an allowed AKC standard.
I'm sure somebody decided on their own to do the dirty deed, kinda like pointing Labs I guess and golden doodles etc etc etc. Those pics look nothing like the GSPs that I campaigned in field trials for 14 years and would not have been allowed to compete. I'm glad I'm finished as to see a black GSP that's almost greyhound thin is heartbreaking. | |
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11-04-2009, 12:53 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
She looks like a lab/hound mix. I don't see any pointer at all in her. I have owned several English pointers and grew up with my dad raising/training field trial English pointers. The head and body type are definitely not purebred pointer. She's a cute dog though. I love the black dogs. | |
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11-06-2009, 02:34 PM
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| Re: Think she's a pure Pointer or a mix?
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wow see to me that first dog looks A LOT like her. Here are some more pics - she is horribly skinny from the shelter, we need to fatten her up. http://www.flickr.com/photos/34840168@N05/ | |
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