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11-02-2009, 01:39 PM
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#1 | | Member
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| Show dog names.... I don't understand this...
Ch Topsfield-Sanchu American Express
Ch Gladiator It's So Floppy
Ch Topsfield Vision Silvernoodles
Can anyone explain to me these names....I don't get why registered show dogs have these weird names... |
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11-02-2009, 02:30 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... They're really simple and there's not really a 'rule' per say.
'Ch' = champion (usually AKC Ch here in the US)
Other abbreviations before/after the name are titles the dog has won. MACH, OTCH, NA, ROM, etc. There's a ton of them and there was a thread with all those deciphered somewhere, I believe.
The first word is usually the kennel name, also called the prefix. Each kennel has a name specific to that kennel, so by looking at a dog you can tell who bred it. Sometimes breeders will use both the sire/dam's kennel names, sometimes you'll have the breeder and the owners kennel name, etc. Topsfield and Gladiator are kennel names in those examples.
The rest is whatever you want. The names are long to help distinguish dogs from each other. You can't just keep saying 'Beau' because there's a lot of Beaus in a breed. So this one is Rain Beau, this one is Beau Diddly, etc. Some breeders do litter themes where all dogs from a litter have related names. Some people like to make the show and call name correlate. But none of that is required and it comes down to the individual owner/breeder.
It works similarly in most registries, though with working registries like the ABCA they tend to just do Kennel Name then Call Name. So the names are shorter. German names confuse me though so if anyone cares to explain those, I'd love it! |
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11-02-2009, 02:51 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... German kennel names are Vom something or other.. that is the breeding kennel name. It comes last. vom is "of" German names do not, I believe, recognize the purchasing kennel until that dog has a litter in its new home. Thos puppies then are Vom <new kennel name>
A name that is Gr. Ch. Silvertones piddle puddle of Tinkertown means the dog is a Grand Champion (breed ring) and was bred by Silvertones and then purchased by Tinkertown kennel. When tinkertown gets a litter from this dog, those will be Tinkertown whatevertheirnamesare. |
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11-02-2009, 02:58 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... All pedigree animals tend to end up with these long, strange names. It's so you can easily tell different animals apart in a pedigree. If everyone registered the dogs as 'Max' or 'Sam', you'd end up with a pedigree filled with generations of Maxes an Sams and it could get confusing. So people try to be as unique as possible.
In real life you don't call them their entire registered name, of course. |
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11-02-2009, 03:06 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... German kennels follow the alphabet for each litter you have.
So the first litter you have all the registered names must start with "A" your next litter is the "B" litter and so on.
And a dog such as Grandvue's Khochise of Ledgewood does not necessarily mean that a dog was purchased by Ledgewood..it can also be because a litter was co-bred, and so both kennel names are on the dog.
Also, at least in American circles, a "vom" or "von der" or "van" dog, such as Paska vom Salztalblick will often be referred to as simply "Paska Salztalblick".
There was a famous German Show line dog named Ghandi vom Arlett, but he is quite frequently referred to as just "Ghandi Arlett". |
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11-02-2009, 03:21 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... usually the kennel name is included in the beginning or end of the registered name. For example
CH Nicomen's Paris in the Fall or
CH Xambino Joker vom Cavalierchen
The bolded are kennel names.
Due to the number of dogs produced if they all had simple names like Nick or Susan, you wouldn't know which dog is which and it's not possible in shows to recognize which dog is which. That's why breeders come up with complicated names so that no one will have the exact same one. |
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11-02-2009, 03:37 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... I think some names are funny  . Hallie's dad's name was (kennel name) sir gay tickie. I think it's hilarious  We sent in several names for Hallie and suprisingly they were rejected, the name has to be pretty intricate in some cases. |
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11-02-2009, 03:56 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Michiyo-Fir usually the kennel name is included in the beginning or end of the registered name. For example
CH Nicomen's Paris in the Fall or
CH Xambino Joker vom Cavalierchen
The bolded are kennel names.
Due to the number of dogs produced if they all had simple names like Nick or Susan, you wouldn't know which dog is which and it's not possible in shows to recognize which dog is which. That's why breeders come up with complicated names so that no one will have the exact same one. | How strange, I was just looking at Cavalierchen's website. lol |
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11-02-2009, 05:02 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelin How strange, I was just looking at Cavalierchen's website. lol | LOL I do like the looks of some of their dogs! I almost bought a Cavalierchen sired pup that's why I used to look at their site hehe. |
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11-02-2009, 07:09 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... I echo the above posts - registered names help differentiate dogs in a pedigree, and can help people understand where a litter came from, what the pedigree is like, etc.
Ilsa's litter was a Beatles themed litter, because the dam had a Beatles name. Ilsa ended up as Bruda In My Life Ilsa.
Ronin's litter was a Sense theme - all the puppies had the word Sense in their names. Ronin ended up as Bruda Sense of Duty. He has a sister that is Bruda Sense of Style.
Kaylee's litter was a Whip Up theme - she is Bruda Whip Up A Dream Debut. Debut is the co-breeder's kennel name, so it was tacked on at the end. She has a sister named Bruda Whip Up A Rumor Debut.
My corgi-hopeful is from what will be a "J" litter. Not a European litter, it's just the way the breeder keeps her litters straight.  His name will be Foxshire Judge 'N Jury. |
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11-02-2009, 09:47 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Another Echo.... Each registered dog has a unique name. So they end up being fairly elaborate.
My Dogs name is: CH Call Me Work N Some Magic
Call Me = the kennel Name.... Call Me Farms
Work N = came from his grandfather and uncles registered names
Some Magic = That was the tie in to his every day name. I like to tie my dog's registered name and call name together. Since I was going to call the dog Merlin, I used some Magic to tie it all together. |
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11-02-2009, 09:54 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... I have Stanton Acres Out of the Ashes SGDC RNMCL
Stanton Acres = kennel name
Call name = Smudge to tie into ashes
SGDC = AAC agility title
RNMCL = CARO rally novice with honours
and Houdini's Apple Cider RXMCL AADC AGDC MSDC MJDC
She's my mill dog and was named before I understood show names.. I have no kennel, she's from no one decent so she has no kennel name..
Real name = Cider
RXMCL = CARO rally excellent with honours
the rest are varying levels of AAC agility tiles
Usually people just post the highest title as it's understood you got the others to get to where you are at. |
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11-02-2009, 10:13 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Strauss is S Konzert vom Drachenberg CD, RN, CGC. Drachenberg is not the kennel he came from, but his sire was a Drachenberg dog. |
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11-02-2009, 11:58 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... They are only as weird as the people make them to me. Some are very out there and some are simple, sometimes there is a theme, ect.
It doesn't have to do with show dogs, it is their registered name. Even if they are never shown. Though CH means Champion so that would be seen in front a dog with a title.
My dogs name is CH Kodiak, not really weird. |
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11-03-2009, 12:26 AM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Noodles is Ch Topsfield Silvernoodles. Seen her in person. She has, IMO, one of the dumbest registered names (and call names) I've ever heard x.x
Pretty bitch though. |
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11-03-2009, 07:59 AM
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| Re: Show dog names.... I think the best name I've ever seen was on a Golden Retriever:
Ch. Jetoca Azzaro I'm Gonna Woo Pass
Her call name is..... get ready for this....... FANNIE! |
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11-03-2009, 08:17 AM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Pai All pedigree animals tend to end up with these long, strange names. It's so you can easily tell different animals apart in a pedigree. If everyone registered the dogs as 'Max' or 'Sam', you'd end up with a pedigree filled with generations of Maxes an Sams and it could get confusing. So people try to be as unique as possible.
In real life you don't call them their entire registered name, of course. | unless, of course, you're registering thru a reg like ABCA, ISDS, or something....you will see tons of "Moss", "Lass", "Sweep", etc in the same pedigree but they all have different reg # which are a part of their name (Moss ABCA56491, Moss ABSA237459, Lass ISDS 27453, etc)
personally, i prefer it that way....it's much easier.... |
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11-03-2009, 11:10 AM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Quote:
Originally Posted by tirluc unless, of course, you're registering thru a reg like ABCA, ISDS, or something....you will see tons of "Moss", "Lass", "Sweep", etc in the same pedigree but they all have different reg # which are a part of their name (Moss ABCA56491, Moss ABSA237459, Lass ISDS 27453, etc)
personally, i prefer it that way....it's much easier.... | But in ABCA they tend to go by 'So and so's Moss'. |
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11-03-2009, 11:21 AM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Roxy's is VIP Turn On The Red Light..
after the song.. -sings- Roooxxxaannneee. lmao |
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11-03-2009, 04:25 PM
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| Re: Show dog names.... Im still confused as the op. Can someone break this name down for me and maybe ill get it. Parkers B J SHY Boo and the mother of that dog is Parkers Capers Shy DS   |
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