Police Dogs

iwantmypup · 02-08-2007, 08:53 AM

Even though some Police dogs might help solve crimes I am totally against them . The way of training a dog to be a k9 police is soo cruel! What do you guys feel about police dogs and what they put them through and how they train them .

Its not fair
Dogs love us unconditionally they give us their all , and we make train them to be hyped up on drugs?

I dont like the idea but .. what can I do ?

peace36 · 02-08-2007, 08:57 AM

I have thought about that too. I am not sure what I think I guess I do not know enough about what they go though in training. I have seen small glimpses here and there and it looks well scary.

lovemygreys · 02-08-2007, 08:57 AM

My brother in law was a police officer with a k-9 partner. His dog has since retired and actually passed away (at the age of 17). I'm not sure what you believe they do to K-9's but their training methods are not inhumane or cruel. Tyson (Belgian Malanois) LOVED her job and spent pretty much 24/7 with my BIL. She actually got depressed for a while when she had to retire from the force. She was an amazing dog with an amazing bond with her owner.

Tankstar · 02-08-2007, 09:29 AM

What do you see is so wrong? I dont get it? being trained and having fun is wrong? Living with their handlers and haveing a nice retirment after a few years? Having a lovly burial after they die (in line of fire or not) amazing health care that dosnt matter how much it costs? getting to meet lots of people and go lots of places (meeting people as in at seminars, on the streets [nice people] go to schools to show kids what you ae capable of?)

Dogs were made for jobs, not to be family pets for the most part. GSDs and other police dogs have been selectilvy picked for their breeds, they are a working breed of dog.

Thats like saying guide dogs and other helping dogs is cruel as well. Since those dogs dont even get to live as dogs for the most part too.

FranMan · 02-08-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantmypup

Even though some Police dogs might help solve crimes I am totally against them . The way of training a dog to be a k9 police is soo cruel! What do you guys feel about police dogs and what they put them through and how they train them .

Its not fair
Dogs love us unconditionally they give us their all , and we make train them to be hyped up on drugs?

I dont like the idea but .. what can I do ?

You should list the bad stuff they do. The police dogs I've seen lover their owners 110% so I have a hard time buying the dogs don't like it.

britishbandit · 02-08-2007, 09:40 AM

I agree with lovemygreys and Tankstar. These dogs are working breeds, and their love their jobs. I find a lot of police dogs are actually much happier than the "pet" working dogs that aren't worked. Dogs need so much more than just love. The average dog owner tends to get a dog to fulfill their own needs, and not the needs of their dog.

sobreeze · 02-08-2007, 09:40 AM

why do you think police k9 units use cruel ways to train police dogs most police dogs are from very well bred dogs but a few are taken from shelters to rehab into well trained k9 police dogs i have known a few in our area we had a k9drug dog his name was cj very good at what he did robbie hill was the officer that had cj they worked as a great team and in missouri we are the meth capital jc took a lot of drug makers and dealers out cj died a couple years ago he got cancer the world lost a great police officer when they lost cj a lot of dogs have jobs they do i have to great pyrenees they do very dangerous work have come face to face with lots of predators but they go after them because thays there job just like shearch and rescue or hearding dogs just would like to know why you think they are treated cruel

crazydog06 · 02-08-2007, 09:44 AM

What is cruel about having a dog do a job that he loves? Being cruel would be not to have a dog do a job. The dogs don't know what they are doing is a"job'. They see it as a game. Find the smell, get a reward! Same with people. Go to work, get payed! The dogs are never forced to do anything they don't want to. I have seen them in action at a public training seminar and they are always wagging their tails and ready to go!

Curbside Prophet · 02-08-2007, 10:45 AM

Protection training and other forms of police work training have followed the same path as modern, developing training methods...some are more humane than ever before. Irrespective of training method, I believe the work these dogs do is too valuable.

Akita · 02-08-2007, 10:46 AM

Same here I have seen the Suffolk NY Training facility and the NYPD where they send them.. Actually I have been getting pointers by a Police K-9 trainer and a Rescue dog Trainer.
The only thing I would worry about is having my dog shot or sniffing all those Chemicals...I have seen what has happened to the dogs from the WTC and how sick they are,.

The Inhumane part is how little the State and City of NY cares about these animals after what they went through...I was at Oklahoma after that bombing and I was involved in the WTC...Not only were these dogs depressed like I have never seen before from both places but the WTC is killing them...The Government should do more to compensate for the damage and illness to these Hero Dogs

tirluc · 02-08-2007, 11:18 AM

well, i guess i better stop using my dogs for "goosing".....we all know how hard it is on Border Collies to be out there herding livestock and flushing the geese (as we do) from places they are not wanted.....i guess i better tell them that they have to just lay around the house and not be Border Collies anymore......oh, and all those rescue dogs that go in "nasty" places to save peoples lives...all that training that goes into them for it must be sooooo hard on them......so, folks, if you're ever in need of protection or help of any sort, don't ask a dog to do its job for you.....figure it out for yourself...

DOBERMAN_07 · 02-08-2007, 11:25 AM

Thread back fire

EDIT: I wish my dog was a police dog, but I dont want him to spend all this time with some random person. Heck thinking about it makes me want to become a pig too...

iwantmypup · 02-08-2007, 11:45 AM

I am not trying to make an arguement . But I have seen and heard that they actually make the dogs addicted to majauana
and drugs so they can sniff out these drugs.

That is not fair. Its almost like your taking advantage of their sense of great smell..... They dont do that to us ! why should we do that to them..?

DOBERMAN_07 · 02-08-2007, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantmypup

I am not trying to make an arguement . But I have seen and heard that they actually make the dogs addicted to majauana
and drugs so they can sniff out these drugs.

That is not fair. Its almost like your taking advantage of their sense of great smell..... They dont do that to us ! why should we do that to them..?

FranMan · 02-08-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantmypup

I am not trying to make an arguement . But I have seen and heard that they actually make the dogs addicted to majauana
and drugs so they can sniff out these drugs.

That is not fair. Its almost like your taking advantage of their sense of great smell..... They dont do that to us ! why should we do that to them..?

I hope you base your opinions off of facts and not hear say. You say you have "seen" a dog addicted majauana?

Beachykeen · 02-08-2007, 12:11 PM

Hey, iwmp:

I'm glad you took your concerns to this group. We're all concerned about animal welfare and your original post showed that you are no exception!

The answers you got were meant to be informative (as I have found them to be) and I think it's great that there's such a wealth of information to be had here so that misconceptions can be addressed and cleared up.

Beachy

tirluc · 02-08-2007, 03:31 PM

why would they want to get them addicted to any of the drugs?....that would dull the senses to begin w/.....and they aren't trying to get the dog to look for the drugs b/c they want them, they are searching for them for the reward (tennis ball, tug toy, treat, whatever) after they find them.....they are taught to sniff out the certain smells.....

are they going to get search dogs addicted to "bodies" to get them to find the people that are lost/killed/whatever.....or the bomb dogs?....what would they get them hooked on to sniff out the bombs?.....sorry, but think about it and research things (go talk to some K-9 officers [people, not the dogs]) b/4 you start thinking that these dogs are "mistreated" to get them to do the job......and i don't mean to be sarcastic or insulting....

sobreeze · 02-08-2007, 04:01 PM

i know when they train drug dogs they teach them the smell when they find that smell they get there favorite toy its a reward game they find what they were trained on they get a reward they love i have never heard of a adicting dogs to the drugs they were looking for but i think i will look into this and let you all know what i find may take me a few days but i will get back to you on this

Lorina · 02-08-2007, 04:10 PM

Marajuana isn't an addictive drug. People can get addicted to it, just like they can become addicted to chocolate or gambling or video games or online forums (

), but the substance itself is not addictive. Not like cocaine or nicotine.

Curbside Prophet · 02-08-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorina

Marajuana isn't an addictive drug. People can get addicted to it, just like they can become addicted to chocolate or gambling or video games or online forums (

), but the substance itself is not addictive. Not like cocaine or nicotine.

But it is a gateway drug, so those of you with sniffing dogs, please keep your medicine cabinets locked.