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04-27-2007, 12:10 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) I just love them, some owners of them I can't stand. They just love people but do need to be socialized early because of their pray drive. If you get along with the people next door suggest to them this pup get around as many dogs and cats that they can get it around. When cought up on all puppie shots and tell them to make sure the other dogs they get the pup around are well socialized themselves. This way they will have a happy well rounded Pit. |
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04-27-2007, 03:51 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) It's so sad... I read that I guess somewhere in Washington...Any dog over 30 pounds must be classified as potentionally dangerous .
I read it on sfgov.org on PDF |
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04-28-2007, 08:18 AM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by iwantmypup It's so sad... I read that I guess somewhere in Washington...Any dog over 30 pounds must be classified as potentionally dangerous .
I read it on sfgov.org on PDF | More and more people just have to fight for these dogs, I am convinced that will work if more stick together. I went to FL last year and the only place I asked to go to was the Humane Society. I just love to go and talk to people that work there and see how different areas do things. I looked around and could not get over how many Pits were in there! I know at every pound you have the poor things but this number I could not believe so I asked why so many? They told me that Miami band them and they were trying to save as many as thy could. I was sick and wanted to take them all home.
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04-28-2007, 09:43 AM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by Captbob If a Pity ever comes after my dog, the pity is going to wind up in the Vet ER, guaranteed...... |
I agree, but I wouldn't limit it to Pits only.
I keep my dog on my property and if he is off of it he will be under complete control. If another dog decides to visit and start trouble it has made a BIG mistake. Friendly visitors are welcome anytime.  |
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04-28-2007, 03:57 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by nicol25 Here are a few pictures of my dogs.  | They are so cute! How many do you have and what are their names? |
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04-28-2007, 03:59 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by German Shepherd Lover I agree, but I wouldn't limit it to Pits only.
I keep my dog on my property and if he is off of it he will be under complete control. If another dog decides to visit and start trouble it has made a BIG mistake. Friendly visitors are welcome anytime.  | I can't agree more owners need to be responsible and keep their dogs on their own property! |
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05-23-2007, 08:01 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) I've been on both sides of the fence concerning big dogs. Even though most big dogs are sweet as babies and about as harmless concerning temperament, the truth is that they are large and if they are large they do possess the ability to harm and maim people possibly to death. A chihuahua does not have that same ability the way say, an Akita does. I've been attacked by a few renegade dogs, especially in my childhood, usually when I did nothing but maybe run to trigger it (no heckling, yelling or teasing, etc). Actually the worst one was by a dalmatian and to this day I am a bit weird around them! I guess what I am saying though is that when a dog is big and can kill someone, it's more imperative that they are trained properly and are safe. Unfortunately, too many irresponsible owners have made it hard on the responsible ones.
As far as pitbulls go, I work at a kennel and doggy daycare and one of the sweetest dogs I see on a regular basis is a pit bull named Chili. She loves to climb on the couch with one of us and snuggle and rubs against your legs like a cat. She's all in all just a great companion and that's what makes me sad about the bad stereotypes about big dogs.
I guess what I'm saying is that while I see why the Government requires people to register big dogs and are iffy about some more problematic breeds, I do think there are better ways of dealing with it. One way is to identify "problem" breeds (i.e. rottweilers, dobermans, pitbulls.. and by problem I mean ones that are surrounded by the biggest controversy in regards to people killing or maiming) and have people become certified to own these breeds (take a class and a test, perhaps). I think a lot of mis-training or not training comes from ignorance, not cruelty, and educating is the best way to stop the problem.
I know in some states and counties pitbulls are not allowed because of the dog fights. I feel terrible about those but I understand why the police ship out the dogs to other counties, etc. It's sad though that a bad few ruin it for the rest of a generally good bunch. |
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05-23-2007, 11:22 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) I applyed for my dog licenses and the lady told me if my dogs were over 30 pounds then they are classified as potentially dangerous and if any complaint comes in about my dogs (if thy were over 30 pounds) it would be taken seriously and I could loose me dogs.....just because they weigh 30 pounds. I think that is going way to far. I mean I have had some crazy neighbours who would call the humane society just to tick me off if they wanted. How fair is that? |
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05-23-2007, 11:26 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggies4Evers They taken and killed alot of pittbulls, if you had one you had to give it to them or move with the dog to keep it or get it out of the place it was now banned, they killed newborn pittbull puppies and even dogs that look like a pittbull or a mix of one, they were killing alot of pittbulls because of the ban/s. | Where in canada do you live? I live in ontario where the breed is baned and can assure you they were not just culling off the breed. The DID kill puppies that were born after a certain day. People just need to keep them leashed, muzzled and spayed/neutard. they dont have to give up their dogs. They are allowed to keep them.
Either way banning doesnt stop anything you still see puppy pits and young (1-2 year old) pits in pounds. And the breed ban started 2 or 3 years ago. Quote:
Originally Posted by squirt1968 My neighbor has a pit bull that is dog aggresive he did 360.00 damage to another neighbors dog. I do not believe he has been taught to be dog aggressive however I do not think he has been taught anything. He is great with the neighborhood kids. The thing is if you have a cocker spaniel that is not trained he probably won't attack the other dogs and if he did would not do the damage a pity can do. I use to walk my shih tzu in the neighborhood but the pity came after us for no apparent reason I grabbed my dog and the pity nipped me in the butt. He only bruised me so I guess it was a warning.
None of the neighbors are happy to have the dog here. They do not keep him pinned up all the time. So not only woujld I not own one I don't like having them around bjut that is just my thoughts. | So you mean this dog is all pinned up out back or so as you sound like you are saying? With no training? Go figure why he would attack no training and being tied/caged up would make almost any dog attack.
Collies, goldren retrivers and toy poodles actually bite people more then pitbulls have. Its just you dont hear about those breeds biting becuase it doesnt make such a big poof in the news.
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05-24-2007, 10:34 AM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) When I called my insurence Co. years ago to let them know I had American Bulldogs the women said they are so cute I just love their flat faces. So I knew she wasn't thinking about the right breed so I just said to myself JUST WRITE DOWN AMERICAN BULLDOG! This way I would be covered. |
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05-24-2007, 10:53 AM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by Jen D When I called my insurence Co. years ago to let them know I had American Bulldogs the women said they are so cute I just love their flat faces. So I knew she wasn't thinking about the right breed so I just said to myself JUST WRITE DOWN AMERICAN BULLDOG! This way I would be covered. | I hear what you are saying but there is a problem. IN an attack or incident causing major harm to someone or anothers ones pet, they will run a dna.. Then you can be charged with falsify information and your insurance wont pay a dime.. |
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05-24-2007, 10:59 AM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Yes I do agree but I didn't give a false breed I did say AB. After reading your other post I think I am going to call them today. |
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05-25-2007, 04:53 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by German Shepherd Lover
You are absolutely right Dogadvocate, If I continued to see these types of stories like you pointed out I would condemn them. Fortunately this is the first article I have seen about a German Shepherd. I have had them since I was 5 years old and will quickly admidt that you have to be careful when strangers are first introduced to them but as far as seeing horror stories day after day, it just isn't happening... Show me story after story, day after day and I will condemn them regardless of them being my favorite animal. I love dogs , but I love people more...
This is like comparing oranges to apples... Lets be honest now and stop trying to sugar coat the Pit Bull ....: |
Just a quick FYI here, I personally was attacked by my cousin's GSD when I was 3. Had over 150 stitches in my head and needed a plastic surgeon to put my eyebrow back together. Granted I surprised him by opening my cousin's door, but regardless the result was the same. I was the fifth or sixth person this dog bit, he was euthanized after my attack. Fortunately I have no real memory of the event. For me, it's a look in the dog's eye that can make me nervous about them much more than any specific breed. |
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05-25-2007, 06:52 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) i have a pitt...shes the most well behaved dog n the hole neighbrohood...the houses on both sides of us have dogs n there yappy lil crappers they never shut up as soon as i walk out my own backdoor there barkin...she dosent evn seem to care that their there...she plays along great with the other pits, rottys n the neighbrohood...and all other dogs never 1ce had to seperate her cuz of a fight....shes wonderful around my lil brothers "7,8'...only barks when a person other than are family enters the house on there own..the media blows the breed out of the water...if u look at a chart of reported dog bites resulting n injurie over the last year....pitt bulls are towards the bottom of the list....poodels for God sakes r #1....theres a sayin i love "dont punish the breed punish the deed"....yes pittbulls are agrresive...only when trained to be just like any other dog...i live in a better part of the town...and theres atleast 5 pitts on a street not for protection but cuz there lovable..."1 of the smartest breeds"...great with kids family other animals"cept for cats of course"..haha o yea n squirels and ducks to lol |
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05-25-2007, 07:07 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) FYI, it is pit, not pitT. 
It is a common mistake but if you own a dog you should know how to spell it. |
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05-26-2007, 08:16 AM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.x007 i have a pitt...shes the most well behaved dog n the hole neighbrohood...the houses on both sides of us have dogs n there yappy lil crappers they never shut up as soon as i walk out my own backdoor there barkin...she dosent evn seem to care that their there...she plays along great with the other pits, rottys n the neighbrohood...and all other dogs never 1ce had to seperate her cuz of a fight....shes wonderful around my lil brothers "7,8'...only barks when a person other than are family enters the house on there own..the media blows the breed out of the water...if u look at a chart of reported dog bites resulting n injurie over the last year....pitt bulls are towards the bottom of the list....poodels for God sakes r #1....theres a sayin i love "dont punish the breed punish the deed"....yes pittbulls are agrresive...only when trained to be just like any other dog...i live in a better part of the town...and theres atleast 5 pitts on a street not for protection but cuz there lovable..."1 of the smartest breeds"...great with kids family other animals"cept for cats of course"..haha o yea n squirels and ducks to lol | I have to ask where did you get this chart of dog bites? You certainly got the wrong info! |
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.x007 i have a pitt...shes the most well behaved dog n the hole neighbrohood...the houses on both sides of us have dogs n there yappy lil crappers they never shut up as soon as i walk out my own backdoor there barkin...she dosent evn seem to care that their there...she plays along great with the other pits, rottys n the neighbrohood...and all other dogs never 1ce had to seperate her cuz of a fight....shes wonderful around my lil brothers "7,8'...only barks when a person other than are family enters the house on there own..the media blows the breed out of the water...if u look at a chart of reported dog bites resulting n injurie over the last year....pitt bulls are towards the bottom of the list....poodels for God sakes r #1....theres a sayin i love "dont punish the breed punish the deed"....yes pittbulls are agrresive...only when trained to be just like any other dog...i live in a better part of the town...and theres atleast 5 pitts on a street not for protection but cuz there lovable..."1 of the smartest breeds"...great with kids family other animals"cept for cats of course"..haha o yea n squirels and ducks to lol |
there is a thread on this forum with current dog bite statistics, you should chck it out. |
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) I really fail to understand how some people seem to think some breeds are more aggresive then others. It's not about the breed it's about the dog and the way it's raised to behave. The only aggresive dogs I have ever met were a GSD and a little terrior mix that tried to bite my hand of. The only Pits I met were two very sweet loving dogs. One of them being atleast 10 pounds more then me and he climbed right on top of me when I was sleeping and started whining when my sister was shaking the bed to wake me up. He was trying to protect me.
I brought my little mini poodle over to the house and the pit let him jump up and lick his face and everything. (This was when my poodle was a puppy and I didn't have a chance to get him into a training class yet. He was watched carefully, don't worry  ) You could tell he was annoyed but he didn't attack because he was so well trained. A simple, 'go lie down" and he went into the other room and my poodle left him alone. I understand that certain breeds were bred to fight but I think as long as they have a good owner that trains them well and is on top of everything they are great dogs and are unfairly judged.
Any dog can be aggresive. I think smaller dogs have more of a chance of being aggresive because of their size and their feeling that they need to protect themelves, they're just too small to cause as much harm as a larger dog would.
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05-26-2007, 06:22 PM
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) Aggression is a part of every dog's repertoire. It's how dogs resolve conflics in their ritualized behavior. Some believe certain breeds are genetically prone to aggression, well it's true, dogs are part predators and this can't be denied. Then some take it further and say that certain breeds are genetically predisposed to either dog on dog aggression or dog on human aggression...this IMO, can't be neatly defined with any kind of certainty. All we can neatly define is that some dogs are harder to train than others (harder means you need a smarter handler, not a smarter dog), even among the same litter. Is this caused by screwed up genetics...possibly, not entirely IMO. It's always nature and nurture, it's never one or the other...it's both.
Larger dogs and bully breeds are disadvantaged by being too powerful for the common dog handler. So it's just easier for the common dog handler to blame the dog versus the dog handler itself. Kinda unfair IMO, but if these dogs are ever to find a place among us, excellent breeders need to take a hold of the dogs being produced, and handlers need to be better equiped to own such strong dogs. It will take both IMO, not one or the other.
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| Re: Pit bulls ( Hopefully this doesnt offend anyone ) I think that if people looked into the breed the want andwhat the dog was breed for up on the history of the do will help things work out ofr both people and dogs. |
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